Capital_Room
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Disabled Alaskan Monarchist doomer
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Capital_Room
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4d ago
either WEIRD types have lacked it in the past, in which case it is quite adaptive in an extremely tribalistic environment
What "extremely tribalistic environment" are you thinking of WEIRD European populations having lived in, prior to our current condition?
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
4d ago
Mohammedans who naturally have white skin(even many Arabs appear physically indistinguishable from Italic or Iberian peoples; to say nothing of Anatolian turks or Dagestanis or Tatars
They may look white, but the left usually codes them as "brown." Meanwhile, John Smith the convert who grew up in modern America? He's still "white."
White converts to Islam exist… I suggest you ask them;
I don't know any, and the few I see in online spaces I access are converts to very liberal, progressive strains.
See, in various conversations with people on the left over the past 20+ years, from college discussions about the War on Terror (including one rather interesting and memorable alcohol-lubricated exploration of deep philosophical priors), to contemporary immigration debates on Tumblr, I continually find those on the left — non-Muslims, usually atheists — who claim they know what "true" Islam is better than many practicing Muslims. You see, true Islam is tolerant, and loving, and feminist, and LGBTQ+ friendly, and entirely in keeping with the latest in Progressive morality — just as is the case for true Christianity, true Judaism, true Buddhism… (All religions, rightly understood, are just different paths to the same Universal Truth, that truth being Progressive Western Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.)
Thus, those "brown" Muslims who use Islam to justify holding backwards, illiberal, patriarchal, or otherwise un-Woke beliefs? They've just been misled about their own religion, thanks to cultural programming endemic in whatever country they or their ancestors came from. They don't know any better. They just need to be brought to a Western country, allowed to live in a liberal society, and be shown some tolerance — so they don't feel pressured or attacked, and thus cling to "the old ways" in reaction — so that they can naturally come to realize that they can be fully Progressive liberals (as all human beings want to be, deep down, even if cultural brainwashing keeps them from realizing it) and still be good Muslims; that, in fact, it will make them better Muslims.
But a "white" Westerner? Who grew up in a Progressive, liberal Western cultural milieu? He knows the above; or at least, should know it. He should know that true Islam is Progressive Islam. And thus, if he is sincerely converting to Islam, it's to a liberal, tolerant, leftist strain of Islam.
If he converts to one of those backward, regressive, patriarchal strains? Well, then like that Law and Order character, it's not sincere, he's just a deplorable chud pretending to be Muslim as an excuse to mistreat women (because he's a pathetic incel loser who's afraid of women) or such.
The apostate is always worse than the heathen — the latter has the excuse of ignorance, from not having been exposed to the Truth yet, while the former absolutely does not.
When a "brown" Muslim — even an Albanian or Bosnian — makes his daughter wear a hijab? He just doesn't know any better, and the state needs to be tolerant. If a "white" convert does so? He's an abuser, and the state needs to step in immediately.
Capital_Room
rather dementor-like
5d ago
To me, "Cooler heads" means that my values and interests get fucked forever, that I am ruled badly by people who hate me and who have perfectly insulated themselves from any accountability for the harm they inflict, no matter how egregious. Why should I hope that such "cooler heads" prevail?
Because the alternative is your values and interests get fucked forever when you are killed by people who hate me and who have perfectly insulated themselves from any accountability for the harm they inflict, no matter how egregious.
They are going to rule, and are going to inflict harm on you, and your values and interests are getting fucked forever; the only choice is whether they do it non-violently or violently.
Yes, and that's before they became WEIRD. Before manorialism, cousin marriage bans, and all the other elements associated with the Hajnal line bred WEIRD traits into them.
Because, in the case of the Americas, diseases did most of the work, killing 90% before they ever saw a European. For the rest, it was the raw technological advantage we had, which allowed us to succeed despite our crippling genetic defects. Now that the gap has closed and the rest of the world caught up? We're doomed.
As an example, back when Tyler Oliveira put out "Inside India's Poop-Throwing Festival," Dave "the Distributist" Greene made a comment in one of his video's about Dinesh D'Souza's reaction to the documentary. Greene asked why D'Souza took the documentary personally, acting like it was an attack on him, when he's a Christian who lives on the opposite side of the planet from these 'pagan' Hindus. Greene then mentioned that his ancestors were mostly German, then outlined a scenario where, instead, it was a documentary about a bunch of Pagan Germans throwing cow dung at one another in the Black Forest; and how he wouldn't care, because what's that to do with him? And he'd be promoting it, saying "look at how disgusting these Pagans are" and using it as an example of why Christianity is better. And that he just doesn't understand D'Souza's behavior here…
Which is exactly my point. D'Souza showed the natural human reaction. He saw this as an attack on his tribe. And he feels an attack on his tribe as an attack on himself, not as a matter of abstract reason, not as a cultural norm, but at a deep instinctual level, the kind of deep reaction that is inborn, that cannot be taught. And that Greene doesn't feel such a natural instinct, cannot even understand that instinct, that he finds it laughable, demonstrates exactly the WEIRD genetic defect I'm talking about.
Show me a WEIRD white who has the inborn, instinctive tribalism Dinesh D'Souza displayed. The inborn, instinctive tribalism of the black people protesting the Karmelo Anthony verdict. (In fact, I see plenty of WEIRDs online siding with them.) Tell me how we undo over a thousand years of selection pressure removing the genes for this instinct from us, in just this century (if we even have that long)?
We're not getting that form of instinctive, inborn tribalism back. And without it, extinction is certain. We're doomed.
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