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Inflammatory is perception so I can't say it's not inflammatory, I can say people who think it's inflammatory are wrong.

There aren't substantive arguments to be made here. It's not an argument to say "They don't think he means it," I'd apply this generally, but it is objectively false to take that angle in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and (1) the glee of leftists on social media and (2) the utterly unapologetic media coverage, culminating in Jimmy Kimmel blood libeling the right and keeping his job.

There are exactly two possible conclusions from Jones winning his election.

  1. 1,791,589 Virginians must be permanently loosed of the franchise
  2. Fraud

On point 1, we have the following justifications.

(A): Those of the constituency who didn't know the man they voted for wished death on the child of a state nobody; too ignorant to make decisions on the future.

(B): Those of the constituency who thought he wasn't serious, see: Kirk, an inexcusable naivety; too foolish to make necessary decisions on the future.

(C): Those of the constituency who liked what he said. There are only two further steps on the ratchet from Jones' remarks, I have frequently explained here how it's not actually time for action, this is, those who have no problem with him wishing horror on a state nobody, psychopaths; this group should be put in prison. The current step on the ratchet is enough for the DOJ to three-felonies-a-day Jones; the next step, "Won't someone rid me of these meddlesome children" if ignored would be cause to dismantle the organization backing such a figure, as the last step is war.

On point 2, the government is currently guilty of fraud in 100% of elections where it cannot prove itself free of fraud. The people are under no obligation to prove a crime committed by the government; the government is obligated to prove it hasn't committed a crime. By philosophy and by precedent, the government has no claim to a right against self-incrimination and the adverse inference may be exercised. The inability to prove itself free of fraud may be concluded as definitive evidence of fraud. We have the ability to have ballots with established and sufficiently anonymized provenance, our continued failure to implement such a system must only be because it would impede fraud.

And I'll say also, a fair reading of my original post would be understood as anti-inflammatory. No, it's not that 1,791,589 Virginians are a mix of inexcusable fools and psychopaths, it's that the machine stole the election, and in fact the vast majority of dems had a problem with Jones' remarks.

You don't get to say what he said. It is truly that simple, everything less than disenfranchisement or fraud is rationalizing. Tribalism? Yeah, radicalize the reds even further, great plan. "Economy" He was running for state AG. State AG. The position in the top 5 of the 100% of offices it disqualifies him from holding.

Okay. 9 in 10 Republicans have no problem with sexual assault. 9 in 10 Democrats have no problem with wanting their opponents murdered.

It was a wrong thing you did here, to present these as comparable.

The Democrats have installed themselves

They certainly have.

As above, the claim that, now, 9 in 10 dems have no problem with "I want your children to die" is a conclusion not found in reality. That is not the United States of 2025. If the demo had been inculcated with that degree of animus, the rate of leftist violence would be higher. There have been the handful of loud examples but they are a handful, nothing systemic, and if the suggestion is they're successfully moderating extreme elements, they would have taken the loss on forcing Jones out.

The conclusion found in reality is an unimpeded fraud machine, as most demonstrated by the massive changes in blue voting in Florida under DeSantis.

The pages for the elections

They've updated now -- Spanberger at 1,967,646 and Jones at 1,791,589

If these trends hold up not a good sign for Republicans!

NYC, Philadelphia and DC suburbs are not bellwethers.

It's obviously fraud, anyway. As of a couple Wikipedia checks, Spanberger is at 1.469 million, Winsome Earle-Sears at 1.156 million. Jones is at 1.483 million to Miyares' 1.375 million. In no world does a man who says "I want you to watch your children die" in the wake of an assassination not have impacted turnout.

This is also mens rea. An organization who backs Jones says "We will cheat if we can."