Ademonera
10d ago
I don’t have the knowledge or experience to refute much of this but do that consider China has not found some new, incredible system of economics. They’re massively tilting their economy and investment towards things like this to the detriment of their consumers and other sectors of the economy. It is an inefficient economy that needs strong reforms that will likely never happen. The main character argument seems like some self fulfilling prophecy you believe in. Whatever happens, I’d probably rather be in the shoes of the US than China in the next 50 years.
I don’t underestimate their ability to innovate but I don’t believe in their ability to produce strong thinkers and leaders that come from out of nowhere. There’s some appropriate panic about their progress in many areas, but I just don’t believe in ‘capitalism with socialist Chinese characteristics’. The idea that they will just steamroll the world is far fetched imo.
Ademonera
20d ago
I find it interesting how things come to be a narrative about a ‘problem’. Journalists love to see a couple of vaguely related events and group them together. I remember how all the MeToo accusations came out at once and it became a thing that everyone was concerned with. I haven’t seen much, if any, attempt to pull together a narrative about the violence this and last year. Despite the reasons for much of this violence being fame, definitional terrorism, and weird alliances to online bedfellows.
I will admit that it’s difficult to directly link all the events over last year or two, but some of it sure seems memetic. Attempted assassination of a presidential candidate, his lackey, a healthcare ceo, to name a few. What’s it gonna take for people to notice?
Ademonera
24d ago
I think for effortpost, I try to throw internet slang into things to make it interesting. Your definition of that phrase is more accurate than the way I used it. I couldn’t think of anything better but it sounded funny.
I think honestly the disjointed references and unclear organization of thoughts is evidence it was truly typed out by me. I didn’t use any LLMs to make the initial draft. I will say I use LLMs every single day for 8 hours so it very well could be that I’m picking up on their quirks in my writing — — —. Some of my older comments are more obvious. My deep dive into Taylor Lorenz show the most obvious LLM usage. I used them as well to grab references of left wing antisemitic attacks, which was posted in quality contributions. But here I think the tone has obvious misunderstanding and flow that would not be typical of an LLM logically progressing to a conclusion.
I think educators are having the same struggle. I also believe it’s nearly impossible to detect ai writing unless providers introduce watermarks, which they seem resistant to for now.
But yeah lesson learned. I don’t really type my thoughts out anywhere except here so I’m not great at using LLMs very effectively and subtly. Also there are apparently self published books with prompts to fix writing left in by accident.
Going forward will shoot from the hip and effortpost without questionable help
Ademonera
27d ago
Please read pre ai draft above - I wanted to start a conversation on a topic, most of which was mine. I don’t love that some hallmarks of ai came out, but it really was mostly editing.
Ademonera
27d ago
This was my draft prior to AI review. It sucks getting this kind of flack from mods and posters but do realize that the post is probably 85% my thinking with minor edits. I think you might realize the assessment is a bit harsh:
Review this post for the Motte given widespread EU/US dynamic on twitter in last 2 days:
Europeans are effortposting on X and it centers around a 150 million dollar fine apparently for how they changed the blue checkmark and not allowing api access for researchers. But it comes at a time when Europeans are bearing down on Musk for not curating feeds based on the opinions of paid misinformation deciders, a position invented in 2016.
I think it’s a real bad look for Europe to be falling behind China and the US economically and also acting as major regulators of companies they can’t build themselves. Their posture has become so unfriendly to business that Apple just doesn’t release some features for Europeans anymore. Jamie Dixon just sounded the alarm on their economic policies dragging down their ability to innovate.
My impressions online of European bureaucrats in the last 24 hours have been of a hulking regulatory body with a bunch of snooty has-beens. This European economic, Robin Brooks, has been noting too that their actions don’t match the rhetoric on things like Ukraine, buying endless amounts of Russian oil etc.
The free speech thing is really annoying too. I was surprised to see Trump hold back on this when meeting PM Starmer in Scotland when asked about it. There is a real difference in free speech that means as an American I can feel comfortable expressing myself without fear that some busybody will come knock on my door.
It’s upsetting because while things may have been much less turbulent under Harris, I’m truly glad that the attempts to codify a global regime of acceptable online speech over last X years has met resistance. It’s odd to think that there would have been a unification of efforts on this front under her.
Europe is and always will be our friend but they’re not on their game right now and the snooty reactions are distasteful.
Ademonera
27d ago
Also Gemini 3 still does the em dash thing, obviously. I removed two of them but hey I’m only human (?)
Ademonera
27d ago
Hey it’s not slop right? Mods I openly admit having Gemini check my rough drafts and rewrite them (with light touches after to remove most of the ai hallmarks). I provide it a ChatGPT report on sources and current events to ensure the references are clear. I feel that this is a good way to clear up my thoughts, make them more organized and coherent, and provide higher quality than I would otherwise. I try to have it maintain my original tone where possible.
I don’t think I am outsourcing my thinking or perspective to AI but using it to improve my thinking. If I’m reprimanded for it, that’s fair. I feel I’m contributing good faith, honest arguments and will stop if told to do so.
Ademonera
28d ago
Europeans are effortposting on X right now, centering around a reported $140 million fine apparently for how X changed the blue checkmark and restricted API access to researchers. But this comes at a time when Europeans are bearing down on Musk for not curating feeds based on the opinions of paid 'misinformation experts', an industry effectively invented post-2016 election.
It is a terrible look for Europe. They are falling behind China and the US economically while acting as the global regulators for industries they are no longer capable of building themselves. Their posture has become so hostile to business that Apple is now withholding major features from the European market. Jamie Dimon just sounded the alarm on how their hulking regulatory regime is dragging down their ability to innovate, warning that they’ve effectively driven investment out.
My impression of European bureaucrats in the last 24 hours is of a body staffed by a bunch of snooty has-beens. The economist Robin Brooks has been noting the deep hypocrisy here too: their moralizing doesn't match their actions on things like Ukraine, given they are still buying endless amounts of Russian oil via backchannels and refineries in places like India.
The free speech thing is really annoying too. I was actually surprised to see Trump hold back on this when meeting PM Starmer in Scotland. There is a real and serious difference in free speech between our nations. As an American, I can express myself without fear that some busybody will knock on my door.
It’s upsetting because while things might have been less turbulent under Harris, I’m truly glad that the attempt to codify a global regime of 'acceptable' online speech has met resistance. It’s odd to think that we nearly saw a unification of US/EU efforts on this front, importing their safetyism to our shores.
Europe is and always will be our friend, but they’re not on their game right now. The reactions aren't principled—they’re distasteful.
Ademonera
29d ago
I found it distasteful to see edgy left wing people embrace that. I’m really hoping this has come to a close, between the United Healthcare thing, the Trump attempted assasination, and Charlie Kirk. There was a LOT of wink wink nudge nudge, subtle endorsements of these tactics I saw online when they happened.
It’s especially concerning when things like this spread like a social contagion but I’m hopeful that this period of historical political violence has come to a close. I really don’t want to see the troubles pt 2 and a justified militarization of society.
Ademonera
29d ago
I’ve thought about this a lot. I still think the left has not come to terms with their rhetoric inspiring violence against the current president and a major supporter of his.
Unlike hand wavy ‘Bush is stupid’ stuff, the rhetoric became ‘save our democracy’ and ‘defeat fascism’. Wrt to the Charlie Kirk event, it’s just undeniable that highly online trans groups perpetuate rhetoric that is about genocide (not to mention there’s another intersection where the idea is supporting trans politics stop people from killing themselves). I think it’s fair to say that, along the lines in this conversation where violence becomes acceptable given a certain level of ‘evil’, persuading people that a political faction is evil will result in violence.
I really don’t think there’s an equivalent on the right. The idea is preserving order through continuity, in principle. There’s no appetite for revolution through targeted violence - while people like Hasan and Taylor Lorenz look lovingly at gruesome events meant to send a message. In no sense do I want someone to do anything to Hasan Piker - if he wants to be a sinoboo and praise violence / terrorist groups, that’s a choice he’ll probably regret in time. But at most I’d like to see him face career or legal repercussions, as detestable as I find him.
Come on this is farcical and focuses on an absolutely tiny part of the US economy. Sports betting is annoying and predatory but it was happening off shore until recently. There are always going to be money grubbing industries in good times. The pump and dump stuff in crypto is probably a more reasonable thing to think would have downstream effects.
The main thing is the US is a consumer and services dominated economy, which is what happens when an advanced economy is capable of circulating money back to households to sustain demand. China is depressing this part of their economy and has huge overcapacity as a result. More than that, they’re so focused on production that other countries are frustrated that they do not import goods and services. As people are saying in this thread, the US is the biggest consumer market in the world.
They have a ton of EV companies, of which like 5 will make it to 2030. This strategy of focused investment might look good for industry but it is not good for the ‘quality growth’ they apparently are after. I do not believe this is a sustainable strategy and does not position them well to rival the US.
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