Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
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Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
5hr ago
From some of the responses, I am not far off.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
10hr ago
I don't propose we only slap employers around. I propose that if we don't address employers at all, the effort is largely wasted. Even without a future Democratic administration opening the borders again, employers who are not disincentivized will just continue to encourage illegal immigrants to replace the ones who were deported. The level of violence you'll have to inflict to really scare people out of coming is more than most Americans would stomach.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
11hr ago
I mean, I don't think we necessarily need to arrest the CEOs of Tyson Chicken and Walmart (though that would sure send a message). But as it stands, the Trump administration isn't willing to even make a token gesture towards recognizing the actual root cause of illegal immigration. Which makes me think they are fundamentally unserious about addressing it as a real economic/social issue and are mostly engaging in performative theater to please their base.
I would accept such an economic "correction" if they were really serious about it, even if that meant I felt some of the pain. But they won't do it.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
11hr ago
That's just "We should maintain an arbeiter class" with extra rationalizations.
You can get people to do any job, reliably, if you pay enough. We don't want to pay enough to entice Americans to do this work. So right now, the only way we can get a reliable workforce willing to do it at acceptable wages is by importing illegal labor. If you actually want to end mass illegal immigration, you have to solve the left side of the equation somehow.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
12hr ago
I am... very skeptical that the reason the administration isn't going after businesses is that those darn protesters are tying up too many resources, and if they all went home and localities stopped declaring themselves sanctuary cities, we'd start seeing CEOs arrested.
In theory, it should be simple enough to identify the largest employers with large numbers of illegals on the payrolls, throw the book at one or two of the CEOs, and let incentives take their course.
In theory it should be. Yet no one does this. Why?
For many years, I have heard, ironically from both open borders enthusiasts and even immigration conservatives, that we can't "really" crack down on employers because then crops would rot in the fields and restaurants and hotels would have to close. A tacit admission that we have entire sectors of the economy that are completely dependent on the existence of illegal labor.
I always found this a strange thing to admit, especially from liberals. "So... basically you want an underclass of underpaid, easily exploited labor with no real rights so your grocery bills will stay low?"
It's absolutely true that if we could magically teleport every last illegal out of the country, it would wreck a lot of the economy. In the absence of magical deportation rays, a serious effort to go after businesses depending on illegal labor would over time result in rising costs (you'd have to actually pay American citizens American wages to pick those crops and clean those hotel rooms).
I think this would be a good thing, but it seems to be a price even the so-called anti-immigrationists are not willing to pay.
So instead, what we have right now is absolute fucking theater. Does anyone think all this ICE sturm und drang is really going to result in a meaningful reduction in the number of illegals in the country? Because I'd like to check back in on that in one year, two years, and five years.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
13hr ago
Not gonna lie, I was happy to see that your story was one of sympathy and compassion. From the tone around here lately, I was half-expecting it to end with "I decided 'Fuck this guy, one less illegal is a good thing.'"
The more extreme people on the political left, the kind currently protesting ICE in Minnesota, call people like me “nazis”. Well, if I am a nazi, I am one with a soft heart.
I think the right and the left are increasingly unable to model one another's thinking. I come here and see people who are celebrating violence and clearly want more of it. I get disgusted, go to other places, and see people... celebrating violence and clearly want more of it. Just directed at different people. I think about a reddit (yeah yeah, I know) post I read the other day, where some woman out of the blue texts her brother basically demanding to know "where he stands" on Trump and ICE. No indication that this had been a previous topic of discussion or that he was MAGA, just suddenly she needs to know if he's aligned with her. When he replies with a sort of mealy-mouthed "It's not a black and white issue, but I love you and family over politics," etc. etc., she informs him that she's going no contact with him and his family forever, and immediately tells their mother that he's cut out of his life. He didn't even say he's a Trump supporter (though I guess one could infer it), just that he's not completely on-board with her TDS.
I recently got into an argument here where I said I know very leftist "woke" people, and they are not evil. I was piled on by Motters saying of course they are, they just haven't turned on me yet. Unsurprisingly, I have had similar arguments in left spaces. "I know conservatives/MAGAs, they aren't Nazis, they aren't evil." "Well, you can say that because they don't want to kill you." (I mean, some of y'all do, but...)
It's just... very sad. And tiresome. Thank you for still having a heart.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
I hate this place more than anywhere else on the Internet, except all the other places.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
This rule isn't new and it's not "my" rule. We don't want low-effort posts. That's not an invitation to violate the spirit of the rule while obeying the letter- the point is not whether you can generate 200 words by yourself or with ChatGPT. The point is we are not a news aggregator, we are not reddit, and taking a little while to reflect on whatever big happening is happening before posting about it would improve the quality of discussion.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
Yes, there is going to be discussion about it, and you wanted to be FIRST!!!!
It's not a race. You don't have to wait until there is "substantive truth" but you should wait until you have something more to post than a link. Yes, that means someone else might start a thread before you.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
Once again, this is not X and we would prefer people actually wait until they have something substantive to say about breaking news rather than rushing to be the first to start a thread about it.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
No, we're not Vulcan logic masters, but fuck you posts don't wound us.
Encouraging someone else to go out in a blaze of glory because you think it would be funny to see someone who isn't you post something "legendary" enough to get permabanned is absolutely shit-stirring, though. You post nothing but worthless content like this, and you've been warned many times. You're obviously an alt created explicitly for this purpose. Tell you what: I'm giving you a week ban. Decide what you are going to do when you come back. Obviously I would prefer you actually become a worthwhile poster, but that isn't why you created this account, is it?
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
Serious question: is this "ayylmao" thing some new meme the kids are using to say "ugly black chick" without saying that?
(I'm not going to mod you for it, though if that's the gag, I'll ask you to speak plainly in the future.)
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
We don't appreciate the goading either. Knock it off.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
So if my behavior merits punishment on general grounds, I publicly ask for the rules to be upheld without any unfairness and bias at least in my case.
Fine. 1-day nap since you're just descending to namecalling and chest-puffing belligerence.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
So when I deviate from the prevailing sentiment, I get insults, mockery, I'm called a naive shmuck or an enemy propagandist, and receive condescending personal advice.
Right. So here's the thing: expressing an unpopular opinion is not unique here, nor is getting a lot of flack for it. You started this thread by saying everyone here is too dumb and American to be worth talking to, and telling people who disagreed with you that they don't know what they're talking about. Now you're throwing an undignified tantrum because people returned the sentiment.
I'm not going to ban you unless I have to, because you are acting like a jackass here but you do have a long record of AAQCs as well. Your statement that you do not intend to change your behavior is duly noted: if you continue being a condescending jackass to everyone who disagrees with you, you will continue to accrue warnings and eventually a ban. We would prefer you didn't.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
Your periodic reminder that KulakRevolt is a fabulist who outright makes shit up, especially about the ancient Greeks and Romans. He is not a historian or a classicist. He embellishes history to make the ancients sound bloodthirsty and psychotic, just as he does for the Founding Fathers.
The "Ghosts of Cannae" were not "hounded in the streets, spat upon, and families reduced to penury." They were banished to Sicily. Later, they were recruited by Scipio Africanus and allowed to serve again, on the front lines in Spain and Africa, but they did not "beg for a suicide mission" and the Senate did not vote on whether to allow them to serve.
Kulak's versions of history have about the same degree of verisimilitude as a Disney cartoon.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
You are throwing a public tantrum. If you really want a ban, you can request it, but you will have to make it clear you are in fact formally requesting to be banned, not just by throwing a toddler-fit so you can exit claiming to be the wounded party. Your behavior so far got you a warning to chill out. You can of course also choose to be a more egregious jerk and force us to ban you, but that won't make you feel so self-righteous, now will it?
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
Most of them are fine with only the police having guns. They will generally argue something about stricter gun control making school shootings less frequent because the shooter wouldn't be able to get a gun in the first place. Yes, you can readily pick at this, but you aren't going to cause them to segfault by proposing a dilemma like "police don't have to protect you, but school shootings happen."
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
No. This is gaslighting plain and simple, so I won't read the rest of your screed. I'm tired of this nonsense. Ban me at least for a month, better permaban.
If you want a self-ban, request it by modmail, not in this petty fit.
And you're trying to frame me as… well, whatever.
Obnoxious. The word is obnoxious.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
So we don't taboo words, but if you are going to drop slurs there should be a point to them, not just "I really despise Indians." If you want to say nigger, kike, pajeet, spic, whatever, you are allowed to, you know, type the word. You can even use it in a meaningful way. But not just because you want to namecall.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Ya know, it's really obnoxious to keep telling people what their ethno-nationalist origins are, and when corrected, double down and tell them "Well technically you may not be American/you may be Chinese but actually --"
Followed by a long-winded diatribe about how they're actually American or not-Chinese according to your abstruse rationalizations.
You've done this several times, which should have led to some degree of embarrassment and self-updating on your part, but instead has led you to dig in, become increasingly argumentative and stubborn, and predictably, led other people to respond to you in undesirable ways (such as the "ball-snipping" comment which, while I agree with the sentiment, isn't really the kind of discourse we want to encourage).
You have already reached KulakRevolt-levels of not-to-be-taken-seriously in your arguments, but that's fine, the Motte has always welcomed the most out-there posters with wild hot takes. It's kind of its purpose! You are not wrong that the community is heavily American in perspective and preoccupations (though it's hard to avoid since, you know, it is mostly Americans here) and getting your, ah, unique perspective is valuable. I say that without irony.
That said, you've also reached the Kulak stage of "I despise all you nerds and your worthless ignorant opinions so I'm going to dump my diatribes on you and get belligerent with people who argue with me."
So congratulations, you've temporarily achieved Main Character status in that most of the reports in the queue are of you or in response to you.
Choose one: you want to participate here and be civil, or you are too disgusted to be engage civilly here and you aren't going to waste time here anymore.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
There are things under your control. I doubt you're so old as to have no opportunities for improvement. Anyway, if morality doesn't sway you, a desire for truth should. Jim is mostly wrong about everything. He tells a compelling story to doomers who want reasons for their hatred, but these doom prohets are not actually insightful or wise, they're just crafty tale-tellers.
You were never warned for posting too much about Gaza.
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