Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
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Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
I see what you're doing here.
Normally, I don't love this kind of thing and I'd even chide you for not "speaking clearly," but I have to admit this is well done. I am not even certain you aren't sincere.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
The list of people you bait like this and then proceed to disingenuously JAQ at before declaring you're blocking them continues to grow. This entire thread seems to be little more than an attempt to bait people and "win" a fight that exists in your own head.
You've been warned before about this kind of engagement. It is not productive discourse. You can have opinions, you can have arguments, but you cannot come here just because you want to satisfy some kind of "I totally got you, sucker!" argument fetish.
Banned for two days this time. Ban lengths will increase if you do not amend your mode of interaction.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
Ya know, Ken White, of Popehat fame, just posted a lengthy, whiny screed about how ridiculous it is that Bluesky(!), of all places, gave him a timeout for saying someone should kill Elon Musk.
Must have been shocking to him that even Bluesky balks at calls for murder of your political enemies (when your enemies are, after all, objectively evil people who need to die to prevent more evil).
The Motte is not Bluesky. However, we still tend to draw the line at explicit calls for assassination. And no doubt if someone called for assassinating Elon Musk here, it would get lots of reports and downvotes.
We give people a long leash-- you can even Kulak-post about how violence is good, actually-- but specifically saying "kill these people" is getting pretty close to the sort of thing that could get Zorba served with a warrant, or whatever they do in Europe.
Don't do this.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Why is Pride and Prejudice, essentially Victorian era chick lit,
I will not suffer such Austen slander!
First, Austen was Regency era. A generation before the Victorians, and there are some pretty significant differences (like the freedom with which Austen's heroines go unaccompanied to parties or go on walks with men without escorts and such, something Victorian ladies basically were not allowed to do).
Second, today Austen's novels are mostly considered "chick lit" and generally filmed as romances, but in her time, they were widely read by both sexes and considered comedies of manners with insightful descriptions of human fallibility, not female wish-fulfillment ("chick lit") despite the fact they generally ended in a good-hearted but poor woman marrying up.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
I think it takes hundreds of hours, but those hours are themselves easy, unlike math.
The ease with which children learn languages is exaggerated, but yes, it's easier to learn languages when you are young. It is not "easy." The "passive language-absorbing sponge" theory is not true.
The thing about the Muslim countries I refer to is that they don't learn as much about Martin Luther King Jr., the American Revolution, or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants in elementary school
I think you would be dismayed to learn what kids in Muslim countries do spend much of their school hours learning. And while I can guess what you think of Martin Luther King, Jr., I would be dismayed (am dismayed) at American students not being taught about the American Revolution or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants.
There is a trade off but imo a foreign language is a skill and knowing factoids about history, American or Algerian, is not.
Understanding history and being able to relate it to the world we live in is definitely a cognitive skill.
Kids should actually know something about the history of their country and the world. A population ignorant of history and science but which can speak a couple of languages is not a recipe for success.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Very few 90 IQ students are learning French, Modern Standard Arabic, and classical Arabic. "An Arabic dialect" is their native language. MSA is a formal version they learn in grammar class and use nowhere else, and classical Arabic they only get from the Quran and most don't understand it any better than the average English speaker can follow King James Bible English. A version of French is learned by Arabs in North Africa but usually just enough to kind of get by.
You have an extremely exaggerated idea of how easy it is to become multilingual. And teaching elementary students a useless dead language to satisfy some classicism fetish would be a complete waste of time. They can learn Ancient Greek in college if they have an interest in it (but then you'd probably mock them for studying useless humanities).
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
6d ago
The only one singing "I Dreamed a Dream" is you.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
6d ago
Shrug We don't care that you're "fed up" that we mod the way we always have (the principal has been clearly explained, many times- good posters are allowed to have the occasional bad day), but if you really want to insist we treat you the way we'd treat a new user, fine, next time you go off, maybe I will.
I think you (and apparently a lot of OPOL devotees) are overthinking it.
The research does generally support OPOL theory, in terms of being the most effective way to raise bilingual children. But it is not the only way. The idea that "Mom speaks to the kids in English, Dad speaks to the kids in Russian" is well and good, but it doesn't mean that if Mom and Dad talk to each other in English in front of the kids that you've ruined their bilingual education.
I don't know how strong the evidence is for "cognitive benefits" of multilingualism (though I've seen enough anecdotal evidence to believe it) but I do know a lot of kids grow up regretting that their parents never taught them their native language.
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