ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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14hr ago
I don't know if the split is going to be 90/10 when you're messing around with the kernel. Also, when you're rewriting old code from scratch, the risk of introducing new bugs is pretty high. When you want to replace something that's been in production for years, if not decades, you'll need a better argument than "it's perfectly safe 90% of the time".
There lies the rub, though: the way Rust is being introduced defeats the best (and possibly only) argument for it. If they wanted to move fast and break thing, they can just stick to C. Hell in some of these cases the C code is even the thorough option as it's already been in use for many years, so it's well tested. Rewriting it in a completely new language, marketed entirely on memory safety, only to disable the safety features throughout the codebase is supposed to achieve what, exactly?
ArjinFerman
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16hr ago
I swear I saw an actual study on the subject a few years, but I can't recall any identifying details that would help me find it again.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
As far as I can tell from the literature I have available to me, nuclear has an EROI ranging from 5-15 when you ignore the studies that give a wildly inflated amount by leaving out key steps of the process
Can you link one of these papers that you're reading? I think it would make a much better argument then pivoting to financials.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
You're right, I don't actually go and prove that it is a good proxy. But the reason why I believe that is simple - that's the only real way we have to determine if a given power source can function viably in a modern western society, and the points where that connection breaks are fairly easy to identify and take precautions around. Actually measuring KWh is definitely worthwhile and there are analyses you can make with regards to it, but it gets exceedingly complicated in a way that finances avoid.
Well, while it's true that financial profit is the only way to have a power source function in a modern society, but the reasons are completely different than "Energy Returned on Energy Invested" and are subject to rather dramatic changes. Something as simple as an increase of energy prices can completely change the result, and that's without going into all the way by which costs of nuclear power have been artificially increased. By contrast a negative EROEI means you're up against the laws of thermodynamics and there's literally nothing you can do to make that power source work. Yes, it's complicated to calculate it in KWh, but it's really the only way to properly make the argument. A financial analysis does not avoid any of the pitfalls of actually measuring energy requirements, and it introduces many inaccuracies of it's own.
How reliably was that power generated? Was it limited to specific times (power that can only be generated in off-peak hours and can't be stored isn't as useful)? For the purposes of determining whether or not a given power source can feasibly supply power to a first world economy, finances are one of the best tools we have.
I don't think financies measure any of these things at all, which is why I think you should stop claiming it's about EREOI (or actually show the negative energy returns). Finances measure opportunity costs, and not even relative to other energy sources, but relative to all other things in the economy, so it's not really a good tool for this sort of analysis at all.
Mining, transporting and enriching uranium tends to consume enough energy that the return isn't terribly worthwhile.
Transport costs next to nothing in terms of energy. If you want to make the argument that it's because of mining or refining, be my guest, by provide numbers in terms of actual energy.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
He said October 2025, that's not included on your chart. How is covid supposed to affect that anyway?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
The main focus of my arguments on this topic is simply Energy Returned on Energy Invested. Financial viability is a fairly good proxy for whether or not a given source of energy provides enough of a return to make its exploitation viable.
That's not what I'd call focusing on Energy Returned on Energy Invested, that's focusing on financials, claiming, but never proving, it's a good proxy, and calling it a day. Make the case in KWh, and we might get somewhere.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
The mean tweets definitely play a part in people getting arrested but almost always there's more to the story
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
He "deleted" it by editing it, so I think it's gone.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
To be clear, I don't actually think either of the people I or Soteriologian mentioned are "the best X can produce", that was kinda my point. Sorry for the snark, but I didn't appreciate someone from the other side declaring who is supposed to be my champion.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
Lomez has an entire company dedicated to publishing abandoned books, and manages to do so without pizzas, glamour, or talking about his sexuality. Next!
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
That said, it's kind of a shame that Fuentes is the best the dissident right can produce.
Why? The best the left can produce is Hasan Piker, and the best the neoliberal center can produce is Destiny. Seems like everyone's roughly on par.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
Being given a handicap is the same thing as being given an advantage. It might be some British vs. American peculiarity, but I'm pretty sure it's valid.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
Nick never gave a straight answer.
I think the interview made it clear that Fuentes is, well, actually racist
Whatever gave you that idea? Was it Fuentes saying "I am racist"? How is that not a straight answer?
Using it in that direction is fine becauae you can check the output, I'm not sure it's going to work so well in a "I'm used to language X and they're making me write in language Y" scenario.
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