ArjinFerman
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...and it's completely irrelevant to cases such as thus one...
Plus, honestly, at this point, are you sure? This seems to have been true 20-ish years ago, when conservative culture in America had some slrt of presence. Nowadays? I'm not sure I'm seeing it. Do you have any examples in mind?
TL;DR: The battlefield to defeat SJP is the marketplace of ideas.
Tell me, why are we here, and not on Reddit?
Depends what you mean by "happen", as I was half-joking. There was a guy recording himself following some woman around the park. I think her dog was somewhere where they weren't allowed, and the guy was complaining about that. She wanted to be left alone, but after being ignored for too long, he pulled out some dog treats out of his pocket, and tried to get the dog to come to him. She freaked out, and started screaming that if he doesn't stop, she'll call the cops and tell th a creepy black man is stalking her. This during BLM times was seen as an implied death threat. She promptly became the face of racism, I thinkbshe lost her job, and for a while even her dog.
I don't think any NGO was involved, that part was the joke, but honestly at this point nothing would surprise me.
If this were the case, why is he following them around and filming? He’s walking toward them, and they’re backing away, not the other way around. Certainly I can believe that the two girls are not, themselves, “innocent” exactly. But it is very weird to follow two teenage girls around the park with a camera.
Okay, I got my conspiracy theory.
This was all pre-planned by one of those creepy NGOs to be a Central Park Karen situation kicking off Boat Migrant Lives Matters, except it backfired by being YesChadded into orbit.
That's fair, but like I said, I think it's more likely this is some 42D chess psyop, and the whole thing is staged.
Then they'd split in a second, and disappear in a metaphorical puff of smoke, not wait around until the dude pulls out a phone and starts recording. Even if he was quick on the draw, all you'd see is their backs running towards the horizon.
Every weapon-wielding chav has to start somewhere
They usually start with people smaller than them, not twice their size.
Nope, I'm willing to bet on this. Maybe the situation is more complicated than the rightoids say, but it's definitely not what you're saying.
I want to register my prediction that the story of this video is far, far more complicated than what is being presented by agitprop Twitter accounts. (A bold prediction, I know.)
Is there at least a decent possibility that this girl and her sister are helpless victims of harassment by scummy Pakistani men and neglect by a heartless police bureaucracy? Sure! But we have plenty of teenagers here in America who carry weapons to use on each other, or occasionally on bystanders from outside their social class.
I'll grant that something feels off about the video, but I rate her chances of being a dual-wielding chav even lower than the pure victim narrative. I've met girls who could pull a knife on you (gypsies), this one never used one in her life.
That is to say, a credible candidate (perhaps a sitting governor, senator or congressman) who Fuentes might plausibly endorse?
Gavin Newsom?
The trick is to let people get a good, long look at the alternative and then strike when they can't stomach defending the status quo.
Thankfully, that bears no resemblance to anything that might be happening nowadays.
I don't know a single internet personality that can claim the title of "second most important person to watch after Trump himself".
Nick Fuentes is probably the second most important person to watch on the Republican side after Trump himself.
That's... quite a statement.
If Blaisey Ford had a video of herself dual wielding at Kavanaugh, filmed from his perspective, telling him to leave her alone, I think I might believe her.
And this works both ways. If you want to call out our hypocrisy, show us your MeToo era posts first.
Pardon? You think we look at videos like the one you linked, and go "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed", or something?
No?
Yes? I don't know about you, but I never had to pay more for coffee because the espresso machine broke down earlier that week, or because the waiter they hiree recently is slower than average and can't cover as many tables as fast.
Nobody is really calling for this
Is there a reason why you keep moving to arguments that aren't relevant to the conversation?
An estimate for your kitchen getting redone is not like this.
If you actually think that the error bars are secondary, than not only is getting your kitchen done exactly like that, every good and service is as well.
Providers have to decide if they want to give a unified price to all their customers, or if they can predict which type of customer is associated with which kind of cost, and offer different prices based on that. If there's anything that would set healthcare apart from other industries, it is the error bars, but since you're saying it's not them (and I agree, that only impacts the price level, not the possibility of giving a price) this is absolutely nothing new for any entrepreneur or manager.
You might be right that the customers won't want to get profiled based on their diet or whatever - that is a completely irrelevant argument to what we're discussing, and can be addressed by regulators if it bothers people too much.
My claim was that the price, charge, and cost are all highly different from each other, often have minimal relationship to each other, have little value to the patient, and are highly misleading and hard to understand.
The claim I was originally responding to:
Ultimately the problem is that it's hard to give numbers in general, it's harder to make them accurate, nothing the hospital can do can guarantee the numbers are accurate, they are therefore not very useful in the vast majority of situations and also have a very real cost to deliver to a patient.
The part I was questioning was about how hard it is to give the numbers, how hard it is to make them accurate, and how costly it would be. None of it was about how little value they have for the patient, or how difficult to understand they might be for them.
Well yes healthcare is different. That's important.
It's yet to be demonstrated in ways relevant to the question of the difficulty of providing patient with the price information.
Two posters in this thread neatly outlined the problem with what you are talking about.
If you charge people for what they use and only what they use and try and give them an answer in advance they get pissed when their hot dog costs 1 million dollars instead of 5.
You can argue that this is not what the average American wants, but you haven't shown that it's impossible to show them those numbers. I already told you that, and you never addressed it.
No - this is my brain on utilitarianism.
Not really, you can justify either policy with utilitarianism. Your argument works only with the assumptions added by managerialism.
The decline in crime isn't just a KPI - it is the whole point of what Bukele is doing. If more prison isn't reducing crime at the margin, then it is just hurting people for funsies.
You are literally telling me it's not just a KPI doing managerialism, while telling me nothing useful is achieved until it shows up on the Key Performance Indicator called a "crime rate".
Which you appear to find funny because the people being hurt are outgroup. I don't.
I find the idea that this happened hilariously absurd.
The Zizians didn't bother with these two particular people. Neither did the group that opened fire on ICE. Nor the bloke that tried shooting Republican congressmen playing baseball.
The use of emergency powers to detain gang suspects is harmful at the margin (incarceration has risen from about 1.3% at the end of 2023 to about 2% now, with negligible decrease in gang activity)
This is your brain on managerialism. The point of mopping them up is to ensure they don't recover after laying low for a while, this isn't going to show up on your KPI's.
If you think it's so undeniable, liberal human rights enjoyers should be able to implement their solutions in whatever is the current murder capital of the world and show us how it's done.
I mean, you even said "stable orbit" in the post above.
The "coming down" part is actually optional, and most of ships so far have been working without it, that's why reusability is such hype - you make them come back. Even Falcon 9 leaves it's upper stage up there.
OTOH, reaching orbit is mandatory. If you want to launch a satellite, you first have your ship reach the desired orbit, then you deploy the satellite. If you don't do it like that, they'll just come back crashing down. Only then do you start thinking about making the ship come back.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure they could reach orbit if the wanted to. Keeping the engines alight, after you get as far as they did, is the easy part. If my bet was with Elon Musk himself, he'd probably put one in orbit just to prove a point, but luckily for me they probably won't attempt it until they're reasonably sure they got everything right. Which means that you might be sweating for a while yet, and if you win, it might be a lot closer than you expected.
Huh? I could swear they're still making shortwave radios.
Oh, thanks for the heads-up!
You mean the way one ordered the FBI to spy on the other, hoping he'd find something disqualifying?
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