ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
but with a better story
What? I mean it's pretty cool, but how is the story better?
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
Very well put!
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1mo ago
It's much worse than that, I thought I knew myself, but now I don't what to think anymore!
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
If he were actively using it to censor and promote his own viewpoints I'd call it buying power, but since beyond a few erratic bans over personal grudges he is not it doesn't really qualify. More like liberating the public square.
But as you pointed out, the media landscape is so scewed, that merely not censoring, or "liberating the public square" is enough to make a massive difference in the election. All I'm saying is that if you're looking at expenditures that may have won Elon influence in the Trump administration, you have to look at the purchase of Twitter, not the chump change he spent on the campaign.
It's all relative. You are far to the left of me.
Uh... that's certainly possible, but are you sure you know what you're signing up for?
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
I'd need to reread the thing, but I believe Meditations on Moloch had a bit about elevating AI to godhood, so that it can cultivate """human""" values. And there's also Samsara, a "hee hee, just kidding" story about mindfucking the last guy on the planet that dares to have a different opinion.
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
A single non censored source of information vs completely managed media = buying power.
I mean, yes. If Musk didn't buy Twitter and turned it into the single non censored source of information, Trump likely wouldn't have won, and it's still useful to him now that he's president, otherwise he'd still be operating in a hostile media environment like during the first term.
This is why Elon gets to be one of Trump's closest advisors, while Vivek gets ejected.
I think libs are just used to having complete authority over communication via control of media.
Yup, that's me. The biggest lib on the Motte.
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
If you're referring to the election in general money wasn't the deciding factor, Kamala outspent Trump by like 50% or something, 1.6b to 1b. So whatever power was bought, less of it was bought by Trump. He won on policy.
Not quite. Whatever power was bought, was bought by buying Twitter, not direct contributions to either campaign.
The future of AI will be dumber than we can imagine.
Yes. This is part of what I meant when I was talking about the utter failure of the Rationalist movement with @self_made_human recently. The Rats invested essentially 100% of their credibility in a single issue, trying to position themselves as experts in "safety", and not only do they come up with the most ridiculous scenario for risk, they ignore the most obvious ones, and even promote their acceleration!
Decentralization is a virtue here.
This is blasphemy to the Rationalist. It's not even a question of whether the AI will be safe when decentralized or not, for them the whole point of achieving AGI is achieving total control of humanity's minds and souls.
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
Not with those exact words (as that would be against the rules), but yes, we clearly have them.
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
But the strain of race warrior who wants Rotherham to be a causus belli against the coloreds otherwise have nothing but contempt for the sort of girls victimized in Rotherham, white or not.
This may or may not be true of Kulak, but I think there's more demand for this sort of person then there is supply. In fact I've seen more frustration with the right's lack of contempt for these girls, than I did actual contempt.
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1mo ago
They have very different styles, so I can understand people having different opinions of them. Soros is about aligning government and society with his ideology, he doesn't necessarily have to go for the top dog, and in fact I think he rarely does, and instead opts for influencing education and putting the right people in lower ranking, but important positions. Musk on the other hand did a hail mary pass hoping he could bail himself out if it works.
I think being pro-Soros and anti-Koch would be more incoherent, than being pro-Soros and anti-Musk.
If you can openly buy power like this, is buying "shadowy" influence more or less likely?
Musk's methods being more crass and offputting to a certain type of democracy enjoyer, I'll opt for "more likely".
I don't know what happened
I don't think you established that anything happened. I don't see anyone calling to fire the progressive equivalents of Brandon Eich, James Damore, or Peter Boghosian.
Well, when we talk about academics losing their jobs be via DOGE cuts, that sounds more like getting rid of ideologically motivated programs, not firing someone for expressing their opinion.
Can you give me a few links to the "there is no such thing as a limited freedom of speech" arguing that the government must fund their full time jobs where they get to promote their ideas for a living?
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
Getting fired has nothing to do with free speech. The principle of free speech is that the government cannot prevent you from speaking.
Nah, this is exactly what progressives were saying as they were getting people fired. I don't think the principle of free speech is by definition limited to the government.
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1mo ago
Meanwhile Gaza is a smoldering ruin with casualties on par with Russia-Ukraine war,
I thought it's significantly worse than the Russia-Ukraine war?
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1mo ago
I think some people made that observation as well, the argument seems to have roughly the same shape as "muh systemic racism".
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1mo ago
What sub community is it actually used all the time in?
The Dissident Right picked it up recently, and I've seen it around, but it's usage isn't terribly common.
I would assume it's a kind of death of the author but applied to systems thing, which is mildly useful.
Yup, that's exactly it.
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1mo ago
He actually responded with "what are you talking about" to 2rafa, before deleting everything...
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1mo ago
Things can always get worse.
Ah! A fellow optimist!
ArjinFerman
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1mo ago
So your only issue with what Trump did is that he didn't pack the court yet?
As an anecdote, I remember a story about someone setting up a paintball match between the national paintball champions and an elite spec ops unit of my country. The spec ops guys got BTFO'd, and their response was "they won because they were absolutely reckless".
I'm pretty sure high ranking officers take advantage of this for a living, and once they have troops with high enough morale that they'll willingly march to their deaths, it unlocks strategies that minimize casualties in the long term.
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1mo ago
though I'd hope that no one on this forum would do so (and I'd honestly guess none of the regulars would do so).
While we have quite a few good eggs around here, a brief look at the past 8-9 years should be enough to dispelled most of this hope. We've had regulars argue against Damore, against Nick Sandman, in defense of BLM burning down that police precinct, that Kavanaugh was a rapist, and I don't recall more than a handful of progressive/liberal-leaning posters saying anything about it (and the ones that did probably wouldn't be recognized as progressive/liberals by other progressives/liberals).
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1mo ago
Getting food from America might be the cheapest way to do so, but there's no shortage of countries they could import it from.
True, I liked that part too (though I wouldn't call it a plot twist). OTOH, the ending was a bit underwhelming, and I couldn't quite get as invested in the factions as I was with Gothic.
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