ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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24d ago
It's a good start, but "Blue Tribe leadership" and "Democratic politicians" don't overlap that significantly. The attitude towards the Red Tribe needs to change in all major Blue Tribe institutions: academia, education, journalism, media. When that happens it will become somewhat believable that we rank somewhere above "cockroach" in the Blue Tribe hierarchy.
ArjinFerman
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24d ago
That doesn't matter, Kirk wasn't universally liked on the right either.
ArjinFerman
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24d ago
I don't think it really matters whether the killer was some trans-tifa expressing their hatred of CISHET males, a Groyper expressing their hatred of normies, or a random nutter. What matters is that a 31-year-old father of two was killed, on stage, in front of hundreds of onlookers. The question now is if this is something that we want to happen more often.
You're kind of right that it doesn't matter. This was, in fact, a point made by oneof the anons I follow: even if it turns out the killer was a literal humanoid frog dressed head to toe in nazi regalia, we've seen the reactions of the vast swathes on the left. There's no walking away from that.
As to whether we want thia happen more ir less often, the ball is largely in your court on that.
ArjinFerman
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24d ago
Let's approach this in good faith, is it possible they shot it down because attempts for prayers don't happen with other victims of gun violence?
How is that approaching it in good faith? It's completely normal for legislative institutions around the entire world to occasionally honor somebody with a moment of silence or other ritual. Obviously this isn't done for everybody, and the demand for it to be seems to have been pulled out of thin air.
ArjinFerman
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24d ago
What is the purpose of this question? If he didn't post on these topics on reddit at the time, does that mean he's a hypocrite and his post is invalid?
Yes?
If so, state that directly rather than asking passive-aggressive "gotcha" questions.
Point taken.
ArjinFerman
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24d ago
I was shocked today when I saw a Republican Congressman announce a woke-era pressure campaign againt people who "belittled" the assasination. Apparently I have a much longer memory than many people. I still remember 2020. I still remember George Floyd.
Mine's a bit rusty. For example, I don't remember your username attached to a lot of commentary about woke-era pressure campaigns, or George Floyd, as they were happening. Care to refresh it?
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
Soros, I'll grant you. I can add a few other cartoon-villainesque people like Klaus Schwab, Yuval Noah Harrari, Ursula von der Leyen or Christine Lagarde. But a noname DEI Blackrok patsy? I doubt it.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
I never bought into that one. There's clearly a difference between a skirmish in the ol' fistycuffs after some heated words have been exchanged in a bar, "oi mate, you better give me your wallet", and what you'd do to some fool that just broke into your house. Political violence might be more of an on/off switch, as for a right-winger, you're not really supposed to do it, unless you're in war, but once you're there...
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
That's scary, considering that my razor has 6...
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
with the caveat that it falters if pulls a Toobin and is back in six months.
a) I had no idea that happened, but more importantly
b) I'm shocked anyone that worked with him would even want him back, or that he could look anyone he worked with in the eyes...
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
That's fair, however:
But, taken as an abstraction, the experts are always right.
'Member "question authority"? I 'member.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
Would they really try that one so soon?
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
I have shifted the vibes, pray I do not shift them any further...
And it does not stop the fascists from rallying if they simply pick a different symbol or color.
Please don't tell me none of them came up with the idea to use the Quadruple Progress Flag.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
I dunno, man. I think it's quite likely, unless the market gods decide it's time for line go down.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
while the Left as the collectivist, bottom-up side
Debatable. Collectivist maybe, but "trust the experts" is not the slogan of of a non-hierarchical, non-authoritarian, bottom-up movement, and ideas like "the working class is mired in false consciousness" are indicative of someone who believes minorities and individuals can be more representative of a group, even as they contradict the majority opinion.
I find this to be, frankly, borne of ignorance and lack of creativity.
Sure, guilty as charged. Academia is not my world, and to the extent I'm familiar with it, the system I know is not even located in your country. There very well may be effective tools that have more subtlety than a megaton bomb. I'd love to be educated on what they are, and how they work.
I'm a little bit hurt by the second charge, but sure, you're a smart guy, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, if you could come up with something that would blow my idea out of the water.
There's not even really a well-formed goal. Just a vague sense of these people seem bad, and it seems complicated, and I don't know what to do, so I'll just go in blastin'.
Not quite.
It's not "just a vague sense of these people seem bad". It's a very specific sense of these people using deliberate infiltration (the response in BMJ citing the SPLC designating SEGM as a "hate group") and harrasment (activists accosting Guyatt and his staff at their place of work, and online) tactics to yield concessions from institutions (cutting off the working relationship with SEGM), that contradict their stated principles (McMaster's statement claiming transgender care is medically necessary), which they can then use to their advantage in future fights (any other university considering work with SEGM will either come across the scandal when vetting the organization and get cold feet, or in the event they don't, activists can forward it to them once any such future relationship is discovered. The "medically necessary" statement can also be used to persuade and/or sue any healthcare insurer or provider refusing these treatments). This isn't a singular case, it's a blueprint they worked off for years. I'd say that's quite specific, and not vague at all.
Something needs to be done to break that chain, and ideally roll back their previous victories. Is it complicated? I don't know, if I was the King of Academia, I think I could solve the issue effectively, and without resorting to nuclear fire, but I'm not, and such a position doesn't seem to exist to begin with. Again, I'm all ears if there's a clean, subtle, and effective solution. I won't even insist on it's quick results, if I can be reasonably assured of it's effectiveness.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
Supporting rioters is par for the course for either side, he seems to have been talking about murders.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
That's not a celebration.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
I'm... happy I could make your day. I suppose it is important to enjoy the small pleasures.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
Guys, I think I found the suspect.
ArjinFerman
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25d ago
Well, it's not really a logical proof, just a statement on how I see no other practical way to do any of this.
Even if I put my mind to it, it doesn't seem trivial. Is opening fire on anyone who ever published and/or signed one of these statements be acceptable? Between online journals, scholarly databases, and LLMs this could probably automated, but does Trump have levers to pull that target with this level of precision? Would it hold up in court? Wouldn't the backlash / objections to it nbe effectively the same, as people like Guyatt start crying that theybjust wanted to do science, and didn't even read what they were signing?
Reddit is a mainstream, corporate-owned forum. They purged all sorts of subfora and people on the grounds of how offensive they were, how advertisers might pull out, etc. etc. They don't get to pull the "teehee, we're just a bunch of shitposters" card now.
How many examples do I need to post to establish that this happens, and is not treated as an aberration worthy of protest? Which part of "not for everybody" did you not get?
The argument never relied on it happening "all the time".
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