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The Baltics hopped on the mass immigration bandwagon as well, and I'm a bit skeptical on how much it's "doing it to themselves", a lot of it is pressured from the EU level. I'm also not sure I buy that Israel's issue with open borders is about the immigrants' love for Hamas, and that they'd be perfectly happy to import a couple million Indians, and give them full rights as citizens.

But that's all beside the point. I grant that the nature of the threat these nations face is different than that faced by the Jews, the question was whether Europeans should be allowed to advocate for their nation's continued existence the same way that Jewish people are. The precise nature of the threat seems completely orthogonal to that question. From what I recall about the opinions you expressed here, you wouldn't have anything against that, so as far as I can tell, we're good. Ftttg, on the other hand, seems to be saying that only Jews should be allowed to do that, because their situation is so special, and that's where I'm going to have an issue. Even if I misunderstood him, there's no shortage of people, even otherwise extremely anti-woke ones like James Lindsay or the Babylon Bee brigade, who will make that argument explicitly.

Look I'm happy to concede my ignorance on the subject, so feel free to set me straight, but how exactly are they so black without African ancestry? Why are they so indistinguishable from Palestinians, if they are not ethnically Arabs?

Then you round them off to their respective overarching populations. Africans and Arabs aren't in particular danger of extinction either, so we should shrug at the vulnerability of each of the Jewish subgroups, no?

Not really. We should still care about Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Swedes, Finns, Norwegians, Danes, the Irish, Icelanders... etc., etc., etc., far before we care about the Jews. If we shouldn't care about these nations because they are all "white" and "whiteness" will live on without them, we also shouldn't care about the Jews. Unless you want to tell me that Jews aren't white.

I think you'll need to elaborate on that.

Just within the last generation you could see a massive cultural and demographic shift in Europe, even in it's most populated countries, and any pushback against the trend will only get harder with each passing day. Is the fact that technically it will take more for us to die off, than it would for a smaller population, supposed to console me somehow?

Er, I thought "race war" was just a shorthand on controversial topics related to race. If it was supposed to be about tone, than yeah I have to take back my agreement from the other comment.

The Schism has a different political slant, new user funnel, expected level of effort, etc. Which of those really deserves credit for the volume difference?

Well, their new user funnel is actually better than ours since we moved offsite (we even have people claiming we should come back there, because we don't have a funnel at all right now), and do people actually get banned for not meeting the higher level of effort? If not, this only leaves the political slant by elimination.

I would say that the cost of flouncing back to mainstream social media is generally lower for a left-winger than a right-winger.

You're treating this as some immutable law of nature, when Reddit itself was remarkably chud by today's standards, well into the second half of the 2010's. It isn't anymore because, Reddit started banning right wing subs, or handing them over to left-wing moderators, which in turn started banning right-wing users. This in itself shows the core thesis about left wingers not wanting to debate is correct.

It doesn't matter how much more there is of one group than the other, when their core mechanism of cohesion has been, and is still being eroded.

You never seen someone sperg out, and do something unjustified in retaliation to a transgression?

I can't help but notice that he didn't say "the Holocaust was necessary or justified".

For many centuries, Christians were forbidden to lend money, so if a Christian wanted to borrow money, he had to borrow from a Jewish moneylender

What you're leaving out of the story is that Jews were also forbidden from lending money at interest (all Abrahamic faiths were, though the only ones trying to stick to it nowadays are the Muslims) they just weren't forbidden from lending money at interest to the goyim. This dynamic is at the root of a lot of the antipathy between the groups.

Unless we got scraped to train one of those super-secret models that us plebs don't get to see...

I remember it being race war stuff, but I could be completely off base.

That's what I recall as well. I think there was even a post here from one of the mods justifying that decision.

Culture War Thread weekly roundup posts from the /r/TheMotte era, when it was still on Reddit, are more likely to have been indexed than anything after the move to themotte.org.

Lies! Those "Bad Gateway" errors didn't start popping up because we got more popular all of a sudden.

I’d say that all such spaces are subject to evaporative cooling

The schism literally started off with banning no-no opinions, no matter how civil the poster was, and I bet they'd do it again if they had an influx of right-wing posters.

You’re probably going to get several responses about how (insert outgroup here) is unwilling or unable to have polite dialogues, which I think is patently untrue.

Just the sheer difference in poasting volume between our two fora, despite us being offsite, and them being on reddit, should be an indication that there's more to the idea than you might think.