ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
19hr ago
If you are saying that he did it but not intentionally,
He was in the way of the car, but not with the goal to block it.
I'd reply that creating an excuse for lethal force unintentionally is jabout as bad as doing it intentionally,
Every arrest is an excuse for using lethal force, if the suspect insists on acting dangerously.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
20hr ago
In this case it takes two to choose.
No, it doesn't He wasn't putting himself as a roadblock. You can argue he should have been more careful and thought about all the things that can go wrong, but the argument is pretty dubious. Arresting people is inherently dangerous, and they can fuck you up whether you're in front of the car or approaching it from the side. But setting it aside for the sake of argument, a tactical error does not negate your right to self defense.
She on the other hand had the actual choice of simply not putting anyone's life in danger.
Unless you're really aiming the car at the police intentionally
Whether you're doing it intentionally or not is irrelevant, thr police can't read your mind.
Even if they did, and in her mind she would pull off some badass maneuver to escape without hitting anyone, there's still the issue of thr car's actual trajectory which did hit the guy, and would hit him harder and sooner were it not for the ice on the road.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
20hr ago
They can shoot you if you drive at them, but they can't shoot you if you are just fleeing.
Right, which is the scenario relevant to the discussed case.
If not, don't have policies whose effect is that it's hard to distinguish between fleeing and driving at them
There's nothing to distinguish. It doesn't matter if you were "just" fleeing, if you do so by means of driving your car at the police. If you choose to do that, you are putting their life in danger, and they have a right to defend themselves.
The police are not permitted to shoot you if you floor your car to get away.
Yes they are, if you floor it at them. We've been sharing this video that shows what happens when they're not fast enough. Another poster mentioned they were watching police cam videos in thr wake of BLM and seen plenty of cases of policemen shooting cars driving at them, all of which were ruled justified.
It's only brought to court if a prosecutor doesn't think it's self-defense, and accuses you of something more serious.
(In)famously, the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case said that if the mob ended up killing him, he wouldn't have brought charges, for example.
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