ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
7hr ago
That's a rather lax definition, it lets off the hook every utopian mass-murdering sociopath.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
8hr ago
Young productive men are functionally slaves in modern western societies. They work for a pittance while the vast majority of their economic output goes to their betters through many mechanisms of taxation and redistribution,
Young productive men are substantially better off now then they have been for practically all of history. Despite taxation, the amount of wealth even the poorer man in the first world can access is still greater than many kings of the past.
The same would be true, if you literally reintroduced African slavery in the US today, and It was probably even true back when slavery was still legal in the US, so I don't see how this argument is valid.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
10hr ago
Yes, but how is that surprising? Look at the drama over trans issues, or mass migration, or MAID, or models of criminal justice... people end up with polar opposite values all the time, and it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how smart, brave, or loyal they are.
ArjinFerman
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12hr ago
I can see the outline for a counterargument that goes, "race is causative of ethnicity (meaning: race linked culture), which is causative of marital status of parents, immigrant status, etcetera, which are causative of violence." Again, though... You can just filter on the direct causes instead. Fatherless behavior looks similar regardless of race
Sure, I'm quite inclined to see fatherlessness as causative, but doesn't it give you pause that we were just talking about SES, sex, and age as causative, and we're moving on to fatherlessness without skipping a beat?
and regardless of race I would discriminate against young men engaged in it.
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Your goal is to minimize the average likelyhood of the people returned by that query committing a crime against you. In which order would you prioritize removing adjectives from the following list?
[Black fatherless poor druggie young male]
I would go for either "druggie" or "male" first, then after those two are gone "poor", then either "young" or "fatherless".
Look at the numbers from zeke. I don't see how you can put either sex or age before race. You can find similar results for SES.
Hard to say without being able to read someone's mind, and you might as well ask the same question about mass migration supporters.
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