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ArjinFerman

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Are you from the US?

Nope, European through and through.

but Europeans still follow and consume American cultural products overwhelmingly, often more than domestic ones. European universities are eager to copy the American academic fads (coastal, blue tribe).

I agree with this, I think this is the mechanism for what I'm describing, but in my experience Europeans don't tend to admit there are American cultural trends that are worth following. It just happens, precisely because of the "fish in water" thing.

Because of this, I believe that if Tretiak asked "why are you adopting the worst parts of American culture" he'd just be met with bewildered denial that any part of American culture is being adopted.

I don't understand the claim

The current amount of immigrants from other parts of the world is irrelevant to the claim about Poland being filled with Africans/South Asians, because that amount is changing. To confirm this, all you have to do is look at how demographic trends developed in other European countries. At one point they also had just a few percent of Africans / Asians / Muslims, and your exact argument was deployed in the exact same way you are doing here.

The word "deliberately" is especially puzzling in this case since these visas were apparently issued illegally as revealed by an internal investigation.

Not sure how that's relevant. The illegal immigrants that were let in under Biden were also illegal. They were still let in deliberately.

This is exactly the same argument that was used in the western parts of Europe a few decades ago, a mere glance at them now clearly shows that, if anything, it's sophistry to deny Poland is being deliberately filled with foreigners.

Poland (also a nato puppet if there ever was one) is also filled with Africans?

South Asians, and at a somewhat slower pace than the wokest countries in NATO, but yes.

Violation of their human rights to be sent to a potentially unsafe country.

I don't think this would apply to "half of the right" like he said.

The home countries may not want to receive them back

Afghanistan is willing, from what I understand.

assuming they didn't burn all identifying documents. Which they do.

There's always genetic analysis, I suppose.

In practice yes, but they don't think there's a good kind of American, that they're imitating, even though they clearly are. That's the contradiction.

But BLM itself kind of sees itself as going against "that kind of" America.

There isn't really a good kind of American to European libs, and BLM and all forms of wokeness was originally seen as weird and alien. There was even a common "it's just a couple of crazy kids on college campuses"-esque cope, that wokeness is just an American thing, and will never be relevant in Europe.

If they did believe that there's good Americans as well as bad, than the question would make some sense. They would recognize the parts of culture he's talking about as American, and as being imported, and they could justify it, but I'm pretty sure they ,think it's homegrown by now.

BLM in Europe is seen as a revolt against that racist America.

Nope, the criticism was also applied to European cultures, often in ways that make absolutely no sense. For example they apply anti-collonialist critique to Ireland, or try to claim that the descendants of Eastern European peasants, who just barely got out of communism, somehow inherited "white privilege".

but also from the other side by polluting stock image sites so badly that it’s becoming harder and harder to find suitable non-AI-slop images.

To be fair, stock images were AI-slop before there even was AI.

If I ever meet my relatives over there I want to ask them why in the hell they seem so desperate to emulate the worst aspects of American society?

Let me know how it goes, but I doubt you'll get more than a bewildered look. European libs see themselves as entirely opposed to American culture, even as they make their way to a BLM march in a > 99% white country.