AvocadoPanic
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Do panto dames, Dame Edna and Mrs. Brown (might also innclude Mrs. Doubtfire) represent a subculture in the same way as Glitter & Titter Cabaret, where London's finest burlesque stars, drag queens, and comedians light up the stage? Their audiences I suspect are different. Is there much crossover amoungst the performers?
society with pro-social norms that promote things like being polite enough to weirdos
Wouldn't a society with actual pro-social norms apply pressure to dissuade the weirdos from their weirdo behavior, because the pro-social outcome is for them to be healthy and not a weirdo?
The uptick in weirdos and their weirdo behavior seems to coincide with a reduction in the historically applied pressure to reduce and contain weirdos.
secular and normal at the same time
Isn't 'normal' as you've used it here just the remnants of cultural Christianity? If education were better this 'normal' may be perceived as more religious and less secular.
Exposure of unwanted children was 'normal' amongst many pagans before they were converted.
I'm sure black South Africans will soon enough experience these benefits of decolonization too.
Rootless cosmopolitan globalist outside agitators?
How are things in South Africa since they ended segregation?
I'm not arguing they don't have a positive vision, they absolutely do. For the positive vision to manifest requires faith not works, the circumcision of the heart.
Congratulations.
Have you tried compression for DOMS?
Social conservatives placed their bets on the law—eradicating sex, drugs, and rock ‘n’ roll—to mold a generation of upright, flourishing youth. Yet, even with less vice, the promised redemption hasn’t arrived. The young remain hollowed out, lonely, and adrift. Works alone, it seems, bring no salvation for the masses; true renewal, whether for all or the elect alone, demands a faith that transcends mere rule-keeping.
Social conservatives believed that curbing youthful excesses—sex, drugs, and reckless music—would pave the way for a healthier, more connected generation. Yet, while there may be less outright debauchery, the kids are still struggling, isolated and unhappy. It seems you can’t fashion a silk purse from a sow’s ear simply by enforcing restraint. Human nature, it turns out, demands more than just the absence of vice.
Men who have lives and families to care about don't want to burn down the world.
I think it may be more nuanced than this. As a man with a life and a family, I don't want to burn down the world, but neither would I piss on it were it on fire. I'm content to let it burn and there are many areas I think would benefit from a swift hot fire.
Both are the opposition. Does it matter that for the trans it's egg cracking and for the homosexuals it's grooming acceptance / pride? Not really, for both it's indoctrination into sexual degeneracy. I've yet to hear a convincing argument that there are differences other than degree or semantics. Certainly were we to parse out all of the various degeneracies or comorbidities and plot them on a venn diagram for any individual in this cohort there would be much overlap for those on this spectrum of degeneracy.
In the same sense it does not matter you're a balloon fetishist but don't pop them and think the balloon poppers are not true looners.
It may matter in some intra-sexual degeneracy hierarchy but for those on the outside the inner political drama of quarreling foreign tribes is of little consequence, all are the enemy.
Yes, also Lutherans and Reformed (Calvinist).
Competing egregores slander and compete with each other.
Looking at the outcomes of sexual degeneracy, idolatry, and multiculturalism for many choosing traditional Christianity is better than culture of current year, as it was better than acient paganism.
I'd expect turning away from sin to produce better outcomes, I wouldn't expect it to be popular amongst the unrepentant .
They're German but very pre-1850 and heavily / mostly Protestant.
I showed you the dozen abject failures of assimilation in a 60 mile radius around me, especially with my color commentary of how they used to be
I would watch and support this podcast. Would you call it 'Decline and Fall', 'Managed Decline', 'Back When the Lights Were On'?
Do you think women would watch like they watch true crime informative murder porn?
usually the richest demographic, often fighting Jews and the Chinese for pole position
This is just bad in the other direction. Importing a new elite class to rule over the native middle and bottom isn't really an improvement. Many places already struggle with nepotism prone foreign elites with divided loyalties.
Palatine German immigration to the USA began around ~1709, it reached its height from the 1720 - 1750.
People are largely horrible. The pressure keeps them from being as horrible. Remove the pressure and people become more horrible and more people become horrible.
As a social / civilizational technology it's produced better outcomes for those that have used it.
the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord
Trans ideology and transhumanist ideals seem more likely to lead to suicide than immortality. Personal and cultural / civilizational suicide. This shouldn't be surprising that the wages of sin is death, has been long known.
Natural state of health just means free of pathology, physical and mental.
To me this sounds like the sort of rationalization you hear from people non-compliant with their meds or treatment.
Many bipolar people enjoy the mania, anorexics like losing weight. Their family and doctors just want them 'normal' and fat.
If wanting the goal of medical treatment to be a return to a natural state of health is a rejection of 'transhumanist ideals', ok.
this is about trans people, the original comment is about homosexuality
If you're opposed to degeneracy and degenerates this is a distinction without a difference.
If you're opposed to degeneracy and degenerates this is a distinction without a difference.
Edit 1
Despite the ban, there is no 'boo outgroup' here. The distinction being made is only relevant to their 'in group'. I'm not sure if there's some qualitative claimed difference between this particular sort of trans grooming vs. non-trans homosexual grooming. The grooming is the objectionable behavior regardless of the specific sort of devients undertaking the grooming.
Unless and until someone wants to make an effort post on non-trans homosexual grooming being less bad or different than trans grooming I stand by it being a distinction without a difference.
Edit 2
It's not railing about degeneracy at best it's observing and noticing. Nor sadly in current year is it exclusive to homosexuals or other sexual minorities, western culture is largely awash in sexual degeneracy and perversion of all sorts. Homosexuals and other sexual minorities seem especially over represented in education and schools. I don't see anything uncivil in the original or subsequent edits.
'Sexual Degeneracy' is not untactful it's an accurate description of the behavior undertaken by a cohort that frequently attempts to destigmatize the behavior in an ongoing effort to appeal to youth. It's not even the sort of coarse language I'd avoid in mixed company. There are an assortment of uncivil terms to apply to this cohort.
The mod action here was boo outgroup.
If others complain about mod actions for language maybe you should collectively be more precise and explicit about the sort of language you don't want.
I suspect you know I hate sexual degenerates grooming youth. Even when I've not used uncivil language to describe the degeneracy you suspect I'm thinking uncivil things about this cohort and railing against them.
As a former sexual degenerate, I suspect I know this cohort better than you.
Once we're in the territory of 'magic pills' why not have the pill allow them to be happy with their natal bodies?
Would your magic pill for anorexia help them loose weight or keep them alive without eating?
According to Wikipedia
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Is there much Panto that would have to be after the watershed because it's inappropriate for children?
Also Paul O'Grady was a homosexual, neither Barry Humphries (Dame Edna) nor Brendan O'Carroll (Mrs. Brown) were members of this particular peculiar subculture.
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