AvocadoPanic
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AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
We're Low-PMC with 4.
Bought the house with savings / inheritance from being DINK.
Wife homeschools kids.
Try to spend more like the carpenter and not fall into PMC debt traps.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Yes, current year is already fairly dystopic, the future is now.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Why don't users on theMotte take the idea of societal collapse more seriously?
I do, but then I believe we live in a broken and fallen world corrupted by sin.
#4 I've done my best, I've four children with my wife and try to make it look good. The other enumerated issues, I do my best to withdraw my consortium, keep invested in God's kingdom and not in the systems of the world.
I believe man's created order will collapse perhaps already underway and the best path through is to prepare hyperlocally.
Preparing to be unburdened by what has been.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan
Lists him looking for anonymous bareback sex with other HIV+ men and self identification as a 'bear'. Seems more degenerate that not though I've no specific evidence for assless chaps.
My suspicion is the degeneracy we see and is reported is the tip of the degeneracy iceberg, the reality is wider and deeper.
Bug chasing will scare the hoes normies.
He may be a very median 'gay'. The median is still very degenerate.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Andrew Sullivan
Is your claim he's not an assless chapped degenerate?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Yes. I've seen reporting he's being mentored by Mel Gibson. It's a nice redemption story.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Absent a custodial setting where is engagement could be better monitored.
Historically there were institutions to house juvenile delinquents.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
His behavior from 13 - 17 is the concern, not internet posting or reading material.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
What I'm looking for is more a custodial / residential school or reform school.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
In this particular incident he goes from homicidal ideation at 13 to a narrowly averted attack at his prior school and the successful attack at the dance school at 17.
In between there was an expulsion from school for violence and admitting carrying a knife to school to 'Use it', an out of school attack on a student with a hockey stick on which he'd written his intended victims names. This attack sees him barred from from his new school's campus and he receives instruction online, with home visits from tutors sometimes with the police. There's a gap between the expulsion and new school due to an alleged incident at his home.
The reporting on his choice of reading materials is just noise. His behavior should be the focus, if he's murderous for Al Queda or Islamic reasons or murderous nutjob reasons.
What is the argument for not having residential / custodial schools for 'juvenile delinquents' or sending kids like this to them?
How long have the state schools (closed residential / custodial schools) been closed? This fact pattern or less in many circumstances would have seen you sent to one.
I'm not immediately aware of mass shooters in the US with as much prior contact with law enforcement and various programs and referrals, though they plausibly exist.
In this instance and I suspect many others a more custodial environment would have produced a better outcome.
My mother was sent to a state residential / custodial school for girls in the 60's for much less.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Some are more prone to violence. Although his specific parents may not be, there's like to be regression to the mean of a population.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
After you've been expelled for violence wouldn't a period in a residential facility / hospital / school / borstal be appropriate?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Dylan Roof
Remembered a couple weeks ago as unlike the other murders that had their federal death sentences commuted by Biden, he did not.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Was that Peterborough Prison?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
After the expulsion for violence isn't some compulsory mental health follow-up and involuntary admission appropriate?
I know this can be challenging in the US since the 60's and 70's for civil liberties reasons but if this is the alternative I'm unconvinced.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Yes, and?
TBI looks to be fairly ordinary globohomo think tank. If he's unparalleled how do Clinton, Soros and Obama have similar or larger foundations?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
crypsis and esoteric group-signaling
Is this all the crusader and Shia LaBeouf as Padre Pio memes on Telegram, or something more?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Really admires Tony Blair. Calls him 'the Dark Lord' and says his political acumen and ability to exercise power is pretty much unparallelled in the modern west.
Does he cite many examples of this allegedly unparalleled ability and political acumen?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Yes, don't drink the sugar water shit; just like Hitler didn't drink it.
From descriptions of the formula I've read online it sounds like it would have been better for you but worse tasting than the current year formula.
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Many of the arguments we get from motivated reasoning are poor. Often because they've been stitched together to carefully avoid falling outside the overton window or some electric thrid rail of their own tribe.
I would like to see the pro-abortion tribe argue for the economic benefits of limiting underclass reproduction. Making abortion more available to women whose children would be disruptive poor performers in school and be on the school to prison pipeline would likely be a net good. Arguing for it begins to look too eugenicist. The lefty pro-abortion tribe also tends to include people from racial constituencies that the argument would advocate for aborting.
I find it a better argument than whatever the current women's rights bodily autonomy argument is but I don't think they'd get the blue haired women out shouting that aborting black and brown babies is good for the country.
Many of the individuals or tribes have a tenuous grasp on rationality, rational arguments don't take hold.
It's difficult to argue / logic someone out of a position they did not logic themselves into. So much is vibes and feels.
It's just all so tiresome.
Which is your country?
AvocadoPanic
5mo ago
Trump drank water, so did Nazis
Trump is famous for drinking Diet Coke, the Nazi's had no Coke, evil Nazi scientists invented Fanta that the Deutsches Volk may continue to enjoy refreshing soft drinks, and the former Coke bottlers would have something to bottle.
Any evidence that Trump enjoys Fanta?
AvocadoPanic
6mo ago
abortion example, the cold calculation is something like looking at the impact on the economy, birth rates, education
Aren't the majority of abortions in the USA to underclass women? Ye's claim there were more black babies aborted than born in NYC.
I've not heard an economic argument from the pro-abortion tribe.
AvocadoPanic
6mo ago
There'd need to be a 'Panama Compromise' that in addition to admitting Panama also allowed for Greater Idaho or Eastern Oregon and / or admitting the conservative areas of California to offset the adverse impact of Panama.
AvocadoPanic
6mo ago
I come from soda country, but we're Coke people. Most moved from Coke land to soda country during the depression.
Marrying a divorcée who's eleven years older doesn't really shift the 'confirmed bachelor' assessment for me.
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