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pig and poke

Pig in the poke (poke == sack)

Wiki:

"Starting in the 19th century, this idiom [buying a pig in a poke] was explained as a confidence trick where a farmer would substitute a cat for a suckling pig when bringing it to market. When the buyer discovered the deception, he was said to "let the cat out of the bag", that is, to learn of something unfortunate prematurely,[3] hence the expression "letting the cat out of the bag",[4] meaning to reveal that which is secret.[5] The French idiom acheter (un) chat en poche and the Dutch een kat in de zak kopen and also the German die Katze im Sack kaufen (all: to buy a cat in a bag) refer to an actual scam of this nature, as do many other European equivalents, while the English expression refers to the appearance of the trick.[5] The English idiom "sold a pup" refers to a similar con.[6] Other variations include "buy a fish in water" (Arabic), "buy a cow on another mountain" (Chinese), "buy in a closed box" (Italian) and "buy a cat instead of a hare" (Iberian languages).

Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

Countries with maternal laws/customs have even lower fertility than the US though. The modern/western society didn't find an answer aside from going back to past patriarchy vs sci-fi solutions.

Wait, what? @Rafa, does this change your calculus about Epstein?

That is a good question, but in my experience such disingenuous motivated reasonings are always discounted with an eye roll. Intuitively I would say only another ingroup-member (who also wants the ingroup to succeeed) can credibly criticize the ingroup.