Botond173
19d ago
What constitutes a “serious attempt to resolve” this situation? Does it involve public disavowals by the leadership? Cancelling any streamer stupid enough to say something edgy?
Those are pretty much the most basic level of standards the Blue Tribe routinely expects of its opponents.
Botond173
20d ago
To be fair, there are/were indeed a handful of rightist/alt-right hardliners who dismissed Kirk as a cuckservative Zionist shill and did/do advocate for political violence and spread hate; if it were any of them who got assassinated, this sort of leftist reasoning would at least have some legs to stand on. But in this case, it really doesn't.
Botond173
20d ago
I'm rather confident that there's virtually not one cyclist anywhere in the world who leaves the bike unlocked in any town or city with a known reputation for having bike thefts.
Botond173
20d ago
There are political parties advocating for cracking down on such violent men but curiously single young women are precisely the demographic least likely to support them.
Botond173
20d ago
I'm pretty sure the underclass is normally confrontational and loud everywhere it lives.
Botond173
21d ago
The liberal will look around and see endless amounts of people using rhetoric that is wholly inconsistent with their actions, especially over time, and be puzzled. How could these people just lie when we're all trying to solve the same problem?
What exactly are you referring to here please?
Botond173
22d ago
"Failing to defend their own"? I find that to be a rather bizarre interpretation. The SS and SA units were already active at that point so it's not like the party could conceivably be accused of failing to take preventive measures. Also, the only people whose political assassinations invited any cheering and jubilation in the Weimar Republic were the communists and the signatories of the Versailles "Treaty", as far as I know.
Botond173
22d ago
Assassinating Nazi activists or officials in 1928 would’ve most likely resulted in the following:
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Increased attention and sympathy for the Nazis on the part of more moderate nationalists who’d otherwise not have harbored such sentiments, at least not to a significant degree
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Increased overall hostility towards, or at least increased alienation from, whatever political force the assassins belonged to
Botond173
24d ago
willing to throw the constitution in the trash
What are you referring to please?
Botond173
27d ago
These two points can stand independent of each other, and several people explicitly said as much when the political motivations of Charlie Kirk's killer were more nebulous.
These may have been nebulous political motivations but were almost certainly still political. I'm sure that can hardly be said about Carson's killer.
Botond173
27d ago
Presumably a leftist similar in some way to Charlie Kirk has been killed at some point in the last ten years (and if not, is that an interesting datapoint in its own right?).
There indeed was such an intentional hit-and-run in Portland in 2019, although it was supposedly not politically motivated.
Botond173
27d ago
The big difference is that Carson's killing was not politically motivated at all, was it?
This is the type of thing that conservatives are trying to stop
I thought that was referring to the "lived in a bus in Berkeley, CA doing drugs in a polyamorous sex cult" part.
This was, as far as I can tell, indeed the reason why it has been since WW1 mandatory for soldiers to shave daily.
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