Botond173
9hr ago
Well, we can add though that liberalism isn't that impressive and convincing either when on the defense, as we have seen in the past decade or so.
Botond173
9hr ago
I'm guessing the genuine sentiment of most of them was 'I don't want these disgusting, diseased degenerate fucks trying to recruit young men into their subculture and throwing pride parades on main street with the government's backing'. But saying this openly is seen as heartless and petty, plus it gets you cancelled. So instead you see them resorting to the usual religious arguments about sin etc. which in turn compels liberal atheists and 'moderate Christians' to fight against this strawman.
I interpreted Nerd's comment to mean that not only does (political) conservatism represent defense, which is an inherently passive activity unlikely to generate much enthusiasm about its prospects, but that it also comes across as pathetic and uninspiring when it tries to defend itself. I'd argue that Western liberalism has also been on the defensive since 2016 or so, for a decade, or at least that is surely how its believers see themselves, and I don't think the defense they're putting up appears that impressive or convincing either. I see a lot of bitterness, pessimism, despair and a lack of vision for the future on their side.
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