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1mo ago
Despite fleeing Pakistan to go work in finance and conspicuously not contribute his big brain to Pakistan, Burdensomecount is intensely parochial regarding his Pakistani countrymen and their Indian siblings
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1mo ago
Obviously this is an insane rules lawyer stripout but it's reflective of why PMs will in the fullness of time slowly abandon all non-sports content as they are regulated and consider the novel real world stuff as too difficult to grade and manage
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1mo ago
It's a pretty common statement that the rise of body cams have just generally revealed that the vast majority of police uses of violence are very much justified
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1mo ago
It's not going to take 5 minutes whilst you're actively vocalizing. I don't mind Chauvin getting hit for potential negligence/failure to check on Floyd but I do not believe that that position is a chokehold
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1mo ago
If anything if Nowak had had other interactions with Sikhs it might have made him assume that Digwa wasn't as automatically antisocial as other knife wielders are. The Sikh religious requirement does mean that they're probably the most normally distributed knife wielding demographic in terms of social agreeableness.
I've had Sikh friends who are fairly liberal with joking about it, though I also wouldn't accost a random one about their kirpan.
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1mo ago
And even in an alternate universe where he saw Digwa and proceeded to hit him with the slur to end all slurs completely unprompted, that wouldn't really justify the escalation
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1mo ago
I feel like 'Sikh culture hews closer to European norms and is generally less a cause of friction than other subcontinental groups' doesn't negate Digwa being a particularly argumentative individual.
I'd still rather have a median Sikh neighbor than a median subcontinental neighbor even in light of this particular happening
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1mo ago
Probably ironic that if Digwa had been a stereotypical roadman that Nowak likely wouldn't have commented on the sword. Sikh license to carry probably made him presume that Digwa was less antisocial than the average knife toter
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1mo ago
How do you feel Chauvin should have handled the situation otherwise? They'd already tried to place him inside the vehicle at which point he began violently resisting arrest and screaming that he couldn't breathe.
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1mo ago
Also there's a ton of Indian background chain migration especially considering how many commonwealth countries have established market dominant minority Indian populations. I think it can create a misnomer with certain anglosphere countries where direct Indian immigration has gotten a lot higher recently but their overall Indian levels were already higher than expected due to outflow of African Indians.
Market dominant minorities tend to have more mobility/opportunity to emigrate.
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1mo ago
Chain migration also going to make it difficult to filter. I'm an Australian and I'd say like half of the subcontinental classmates I had in high school came via other parts of the Commonwealth where their parents or grandparents had emigrated
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1mo ago
Yeah acting like the Indian population is genetically contiguous is stupid. It's a large country/region. Same for the Han Chinese since you don't need to be a geneticist to tell the difference between median northerner and median southerner since it's like 5 inches of height and notably different skin tone
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1mo ago
Most of the honor killing stuff is far more Muslim Mirpuri Pakistani afaik. Hindu culture doesn't really have the same touchpoints even if surely it still happens
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1mo ago
I've got no doubt that the position and the stress of being arrested contributed somewhat to Floyd dying. But I'm also sure that his diet and existing lifestyle factors also did and nobody from McDonald's went to prison
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1mo ago
Yeah I'm sure the position contributed to Floyd's death on some level but I feel it is a rounding error compared to the drug ingestion and it was an appropriate thing to do to a felon actively resisting arrest. I've also yet to see anybody render anybody unconscious via the 'chokehold' that Chauvin was applying which is definitely an uncomfortable position but is not any sort of actual strangulation.
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1mo ago
If Nowak had been actively resisting and fleeing arrest, as Floyd was at the time of the start of the restraint, there would be some sort of point you're making. It's not like Floyd was passed out in the gutter when Chauvin rocked up and then Chauvin spontaneously decided to kneel on his upper back.
I'm just saying there's regional differences not that there's some huge wellspring of diversity. Most non-Indians would be able to tell difference between a median Kerala native and a median Punjab native on sight which doesn't have a ton to do with the caste system. It's a physical distance corresponding to like London to Sicily.
Plus hugely different flows of immigration/foreign overlordship means admixtures are different
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1mo ago
That's a discussion for the police force policy manual though? Chauvin went to prison since the politics of the day demanded that he be railroaded. You can't do anything resembling state sanctioned violence if one can just arbitrarily toss out the official rules for use of force
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1mo ago
I'm sure Chauvin contributed to his death via arresting him for a crime which was very stressful for Floyd, but the position he placed him in was coached by department policy and you cannot choke somebody out over 8 minutes of them being able to talk in a position like that.
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1mo ago
Wouldn't know genetically but just eyeballing Southern Indians and Northern Indians is pretty trivial in terms of features and size
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1mo ago
Genuinely didn't know that. My mental image of the child has always been a pale brunette but think I just never looked up the actual footage
There's an infinite supply of edge cases and rules lawyerings. The long-term push for stuff will this (especially when an actual gambling and/or financial commission gets involved) will likely just be to cull as much of the niche markets as possible
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