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				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 16, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


They realize she has a perception problem, but instead of just... ignoring it, as one of the most powerful corporations in the world, they insisted on trying to appeal to it.




Well, exactly, and (to put on my armchair psychologist hat) this makes Sharma seem so much worse. There’s been a bunch of talk on the less salubrious corners of the Internet about the concept of “izzat”, an Indian cultural practice whereby faking credentials is seen as just as good as having the credentials because the real merit, to the Indian psyche, is in Dedication To The Facade, not in the distinction between facade and the reality. For an izzat-brained Indian, setting up a fake account is the smart, meritorious move, because it proves your hustle, your dedication to fake it until you make it, your savvy use of shortcuts, which is better than putting in the leg work like a chump and actually having achievements.


Ignoring a bunch of basement-dwelling no-life babies until they go away is not possible to a person who got where they are due to izzat, because she knows that spiritually, she is also a basement-dwelling no-life baby. Which might explain why she got her little brother to fake her account, idk.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 16, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It is not logically impossible that @Poug is completely right and “But you’re not using the best model” is the actually correct answer to every complaint about LLMs.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 16, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
And how many social credit points do you think you should lose for criticising the gove- uhh, I mean “subversive activities”?


Because this is the universal failure mode of any attempt at conduct-prorated welfare: it would inevitably descend into political patronage.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


is not the central example of "Guys who like fucking unconscious women."




You are basing this statement on what evidence?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Close, but you’re way off. I think I’d describe it more as “Will you please just shut up and stop getting in the way of my enjoyment”. Sex with a conscious partner is like trying to watch a movie with someone who’s always interrupting: “Ooh can we rewind I liked that bit”, “Volume up please!”, “Want some popcorn?”; and I’m like do you mind I’m trying to concentrate. Being obliged to consider someone else’s watching preferences takes me right out of the zone.


Now, in fairness, sometimes you really are more interested in the watch party bantz than the watching itself. But not often.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


but you know that fetishes by definition are outside the norm, right?




Well that’s begging the question isn’t it? We are trying to puzzle out who are really the minority, those who see the unconscious woman as a gross RealDoll vs those who still see her as person.




would you actually do it to a woman who hadn't consented?




No, sure, but your previous post wasn’t complaining about the absence of consent, it was complaining about the absence of consciousness.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I did indeed mean that it was great for me and she didn’t remember it. However, she’s a self-proclaimed sub, and so while she didn’t remember the act, the abstract knowledge of it has an enduring appeal.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Although I think that if Weinstein or Epstein had been non-Jewish, the amount of mainstream attention would have been roughly the same. It's basically the fact that they are coded as elites, particularly white elites IMO.




I think the Jewishness means the Hard-Right pounds the drum harder, but if they were non-Jewish then the NGO-Left would pound the drum harder, so in the end it kinda balances out, yeah.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


墨子 discusses punishments for rape during the Warring States period, and various annals including 春秋左傳 and 詩經 describe rape in a decidedly disapproving manner.




Yeah but they disapprove because it soils the man’s qi, in a ‘this practice is not consistent with obviating temporal desire and attaining the Dao’ sort of way. That a woman is involved at all, let alone an unwilling one, is of no consequence - they’d complain just as much about a long goon session.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The two parts of your statement do not logically synch up. If you don’t consider it an improvement, then you don’t see the appeal, because, by your own logic, it is not appealing (compared to the default).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


To me, having sex with an unconscious woman would have pretty much zero appeal no matter how hot she is




I am a man who happens to have this fetish, and indeed I am a man who related this fetish to my gf, she thought it was hot, and we contrived some bs about our apartment being too close to a busy highway in order to get a doctor to prescribe heavy-duty sleeping pills that we could indulge this fetish. And it was great.


It’s the “doing another guy’s wife” and “doing a fugly old grandma” that confuses me about the appeal. Not the unconsciousness, which, indeed, is a distinct improvement over the vanilla sex act.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 9, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
This.


I notice that legacy media occasionally tries to push the story but there’s basically no social media take-up by anyone reading the news, because it gets (rightly) understood as categorised in a box of “Shit French people do”, not “Shit men do”.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
My automatic answer to this is that debating with Twitterati is a fool’s errand; they are not there to honestly engage, they are there to farm upboats by calling you cringe, the only winning move is not to play. Better master debaters than I have tried to figure out how to “get around them just calling you ick” and none have succeeded. That’s why the place where we are currently exists: there is no solution to the problem other than going away to a different discussion forum.


However, in an effort to at least gesture in the direction of something, I think you can only fight fire with fire by (a) wresting control of the banhammer from their allies to your allies (thanks Elon), and (b) having more allies who’ll call them cringe than they have allies who’ll call you cringe.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 2, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


For the record im not arguing that being against gay marriage would be "ok".




It’s okay, you can say that here.




But here is what i dont get - why are some issues less "up for debate"?




It’s literally just a rhetorical shaming technique to put their debate opponents on the defensive from the start. “If you hold this position you’re an icky person” is a schoolyard-tier tactic but on many normies it just works.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


That people on the online right see this as "professional logistics" is deeply blackpilling for me




Exaggerating the competence / strength of your enemy benefits everyone. It makes your victory more heroic if you win and your defeat more forgivable if you lose, and your enemy won’t get mad at being portrayed as more badass than they actually were either.


This should blackpill you no more that Herodotus blackpills you for claiming that Xerxes’ army numbered a million men, and they drank the rivers dry and their marches caused earthquakes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I agree with you that being an IRL Reddit anti-ICE protestor constitutes “shitting up the commons thinking life is a video game”, but I am simultaneously self-aware enough to realise that I only think this because it’s an objective I disagree with. If these were right-wing Reddit LARPers going out to help ICE round up foreigners then I’d consider it a heartening efflorescence of organic civic virtue.


As Dilos said of the Arcadians: brave amateurs, they do their part


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


prominent former Shanghai capitalists who defected to the communists, the former Emperor




I remember reading years ago that Puyi’s survival seemed strange to Western observers at the time but the Chinese justification was something along the lines of “It is not surprising that capitalists and monarchists act like capitalists and monarchists, it’s just in their nature. No point executing them for being true to their class any more than you would execute a dog for licking its balls”.


With this logic of class-essentialism it is unsurprising that the grand-bourgeoise and literal royalty get ‘let off’ with re-education, while misbehaving peasants get the rope. The upper class were ‘inevitably’ acting in accordance with their class interests. But proletarian class traitors should have known better.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


But importantly these aren't illegals which is what the whole discourse.




Well… no it isn’t. Illegal immigrants are only slightly worse than legal immigrants (their real crime being their undeserving capture of the fruits of my patrimony that my ancestors toiled to build for me), and I think that this is at least a large minority opinion amongst the pro-Wall set.


The problem is the Great Replacement; whether it is being perpetrated legally or illegally is just ACKSHUALLY-nitpicking.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


are why immigration is mostly a non issue in Australia.




Didn’t you guys import like 20% of your population from China in the last 30 years and both your transport infrastructure and housing market are collapsing under the strain?


Is it not that immigration is objectively worse in terms of population-replacement in Australia, it’s just not a political issue because… Australians don’t have the self-preservation instincts that Americans do?