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Butlerian

Not robot-ist just don't like 'em

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Butlerian

Not robot-ist just don't like 'em

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User ID: 1558

I'm pretty sure Elon Musk and Warren Buffett produce more than 1000x the value I produce.

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What exactly is the instantiation of value that you think Elon Musk and Warren Buffet “produce”? Scrimshaw?

I am, I suppose, an Elon fanboy in the sense that to get to Mars I would ride with Satan himself, but he doesn’t produce anything; he is at best a Schelling point around which (as @SubstantialFrivolity describes below) an engineering Old Boy’s Network rotates, but if it wasn’t Elon it would have been somebody (anybody) else, to no material detriment to the Mars project.

Dogs though, I'm not convinced at all are capable of evil. They either act according to their natural instincts, or they act how they've been trained.

I am intrigued - what do you think is the difference between humans and dogs, that you believe the “He’s a good boy he was just raised wrong” argument above doesn’t also apply to humans?

Yes. I would rather be whipped a few times than deprived a $10 million dollar bonus. Hedons ARE fungible. Maybe not perfectly fungible, but if you tell me there is no amount of money that would convince you to take one stroke of the lash then… I just won’t believe you.

“Not being a great dog trainer” is hardly grounds for vituperative opprobrium though, is it? Many people are not great dog trainers.

The dog has no capacity to understand the role of an "actor"

You think the dogs running on treadmills to turn spits in Victorian England “understood” how their motive power was being transferred through cogs and widgets to procure a homogeneous meat temperature so the Earl of Chelmsford could entertain his dinner guests with delicious roast? Come on, requiring that a dog understand its role in order for its work to be morally permissable is ludicrous.

because the dog has been bred for hundreds of thousands of years for subservience.

You are using the fact that the dog’s nature is to find serving humans agreeable, as an argument that the dog’s life serving humans is disagreeable?

Women making porn is disgusting and harms them, but the Left messaging on that is not ‘You’re pigs, we want to let you’ but ‘You are beautifully expressing your sexuality and simultaneously a victim of the patriarchy, men are disgusting and we want to destigmatise you’, which is the kind of double standard that men might noootice.

I have certainly seen it claimed that if the candidate had been anyone other than Harris, they wouldn’t have legally been able to access any of the funding that had already been secured for the BIDEN-HARRIS ticket, thereby essentially obligating her to stick it out.