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Butlerian

Not robot-ist just don't like 'em

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Butlerian

Not robot-ist just don't like 'em

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Isn't this dynamic just the plot of Twelve Angry Men? It's not strictly bad in the context it's played in, nor is it necessarily gendered.

Yes, and it’s why that movie is dumb. The final recalcitrant juror is induced to change his mind not by the others successfully convincing him, but by the others socially ostracising and refusing to talk to him. Tell me your movie was written by a woman without telling me it was written by a woman…

(*Disclaimer: Twelve Angry Men was written not by a woman but by a communist nu-male)

Why is there such a large disconnect between being so successful in one domain (e.g. creating companies) and the ability to produce good, well-informed opinions online?

This is IMO the strongest piece of evidence the leftists have for their thesis that “Billionaires aren’t skilful they’re just lucky”. Some captains of industry have opinions that are just SO bad, it’s impossible not to get a sort of anti-halo-effect about them and conclude that they must, indeed, be generally dumb, and so any success they have comes from rolling natural 20s at life rather than having a consistent pattern of beat-the-market intelligence.

It would be quite bad if this became the majority view regarding how we see our fellow humans.

Can you elaborate, because I don’t see how having a more accurate impression of other’s cognition could be bad long-term.

Perhaps you’re afraid it’ll lead to dehumanisation of other people - but if LLMs are showing us that that’s what other people really do deserve, then it’s a good thing not a bad thing.

People always say things like this, but where I am, I always see plenty of white women with Indian men.

Is it Albania? Because then this would lend credibility to the claimant.

The right tried and failed to do this with Charlie Kirk and there they had an actual body. It's just not that easy to rile people up over something that didn't happen.

In what sense did Charlie Kirk’s assassination not happen?

But I don't know, when I see someone essentially laying out a justification for bringing back slavery, how am I supposed to respond, as a black person?

You’re supposed to bring facts to demonstrate that he’s wrong.

People much higher on the Actual Power totem-pole than “internet randos” lay out justifications all the time (followed by, y’know, actual laws) that white and asian people deserve to be discriminated against in hiring for high-prestige jobs (proportionally squeezing more of us into menial labour in the cotton fields), and most of us manage to respond to this without resorting to autistic screeching. Maybe they’re right! Maybe you, or I, do in fact deserve to be toiling on the plantation. If it’s right and true and just, then it’s to be celebrated, not struggled against. The only way we determine if it’s right and true and just is clear-headed discourse.