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				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 31, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.” --Ralph Waldo Emerson


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 24, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


In any case, I was talking about civil rights era changes to speech and obscenity jurisprudence, not race.




They're the same picture.


The ideals of 1776 were, for a long time, treated as having an unwritten exception: "This doesn't apply to people we don't like." The long overdue reforms of the Civil-Rights Era said "No, this applies to everybody. Yes, even those people, or else, they mean, NOTHING!."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 24, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Do you think this sounds even remotely credible?




Sadly, I find it very credible. I wish to G-d it were not!


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 24, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


...you treat Civil Rights era jurisprudence and standards as if they were the only way to view the constitution and the only way the country can be correctly or properly governed, despite such changes being only about half a century old. The country, with largely the same constitution, was governed radically differently before the 60s and 70s....




It was governed, as described by Mark Rosenfelder, such that:




    

  • In 1951, a black family headed by Harvey Clark, a WW2 veteran and a university graduate, rented an apartment in Cicero, Illinois— a couple miles southeast of here, in fact. He was hassled and beat up by police officers as he tried to move in. He successfully sued to keep the police from preventing the move.
Then came the three-day riot, in which 4000 whites mobbed his apartment building, threw stones, destroyed the family's possessions, and finally set fire to the building. Clark himself most regretted the destruction of his piano, which he had bought for his daughter by working overtime.
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  • Or there's the case of Malcolm Little. While his mother was still pregnant with him, Klansmen surrounded their house and broke all the windows. His father and three of his uncles were killed by white men, one by a lynch mob. His home in Nebraska was burned by another mob. Malcolm's early childhood was hard, but he did very well in high school— he got top grades and was elected class president. One of his teachers asked him what he might do for a career. Malcolm answered that he thought he might like to be a lawyer. The teacher smiled and told him “A lawyer— that's no realistic goal for a n████r.” He suggested carpentry.
Not surprisingly, Malcolm decided that the white man's world was a conspiracy to prevent black progress, enforced with smiles at the top and terrorism at the bottom. Under those circumstances, why not turn to crime? He did, but later he got religion and changed his name to X.
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  • August Wilson tells a story about his mother. There was a trivia contest on the radio, in the '50s, where the prize was a new washing machine— something she sorely needed. She knew the answer, called in, and won the prize. But when they learned that she was black, they wouldn't give it to her. They proposed giving her a gift certificate to the Salvation Army instead; she could get a used machine there.
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  • Or Commissioner Bull Connor in Birmingham, who used attack dogs and fire hoses against peaceful demonstrators led by pastor Martin Luther King Jr (1963). King was a Christian minister, and advocated non-violence and even non-resistance to violent provocation; four years later, he was murdered. During the Birmingham campaign, the 16th Street Baptist Church was bombed, killing four teenage girls. The Klansman who did it was found not guilty, though he was fined for possession of dynamite without a permit.
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  • Clyde Ross grew up in Mississippi, where the law was unavailable to blacks, and whites simply stole any black wealth they wanted. (Ross had a horse when he was ten. White men took it from him.) Ross moved his family to Chicago in 1947, where he could vote and get a house. Regular mortgages weren't given to blacks; instead an operator got him a contract house— where the householder was responsible for all upkeep, but could lose the house if he missed a single payment. It was federal policy to deny ordinary mortgages to blacks.
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  • James Zwerg, a white divinity student, was one of the Freedom Riders who in 1961 rode segregated buses and refused to sit in the back of the bus. They were met by a mob in Montgomery; Zwerg was held against the wall by a group of men while men punched him and women clawed his face. Some women held up their toddlers so the little ones could attack him too.
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  • Fannie Lou Hamer was a black woman who dared to register to vote. She was thrown off the plantation where she lived; when she stayed with a friend she was shot at; her house was assessed a $9000 water bill though it had no running water; she was arrested, beaten savagely, and sexually molested in jail.
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  • Nichelle Nichols was once kicked out of a hotel in Salt Lake City, where she had a reservation, for being black. She couldn't find another hotel, either— she found a family to stay with. When she was working on Star Trek, the guard at one gate in the studio lot wouldn't let her in, for being black. It's really really low to mess with Lt. Uhura.
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Multiply by 23 million.






Liberals think this is no way to treat people.






But it goes way beyond that. Some researchers claim that liberals aren't motivated by feeling of moral disgust, but I disagree. Liberals think incidents like these are disgusting. Racism is viscerally wrong, it's unacceptable, and it needs to stop.




Putting an end to such horrors may have nth-order effects that some of us don't like, but they are vastly less bad than the status quo (which had long since lost its status).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 17, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Part of that may have been due to the Hays Code....


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 17, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


But even if there was some way to enforce such a laughable piece of legislation, it surely goes without saying that the primary beneficiary of it would be Donald Trump, who would see the number of UK articles criticising him drop precipitously. Hell, an even bigger beneficiary would be Boris Johnson, whose latest paternity scandal would be reduced to a footnote. It's even trivial to imagine how such a piece of legislation could be gamed. Nigel Farage gets wind that a scandal is going to break on Monday morning. He immediately springs into action, buying a regional newspaper with triple-digit circulation for pennies on the dollar, launching a website to go with it, and flooding that website with nothing but AI-generated articles about said scandal. Under Arday's Law, there's no way for the BBC, the Guardian or the Observer to cover the scandal: their hands are tied.




Public figures such as elected officials would most likely, if not exempted from such protection entirely, at least have a much higher threshold.


Also, can we go back to when legislation had boring, neutral names that don't assume the world-view of their supporters? Too many proposed laws these days are either (a.) named after someone who died under tragic circumstances that the proponents claim would have been prevented by their agenda, leading to the argument "How can you oppose $NAME0's Law? Are you saying $NAME0 deserved to die?", or (b.) named after a notarikon of an applause light, leading to "How can you oppose the $GOODTHING1 Act? Are you against $GOODTHING1?". (This applies to my team as well. If I am ever in a position to introduce a bill to, e. g. require that trans individuals be able to use the toilet in public places without regard to their anatomical-sex-at-birth, I will title it the 'Restroom Act', or 'Lavatory Act', or 'Bathroom Policy Act', not 'Luo's Law' or the 'Equal Quotidian Use and Access to Lavatories In Total Yesterday' Act.)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 10, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I'm not sure what the 'two weeks' refers to. What I suspect the Blue Tribe's reasoning to be, is that they believe that the Red Tribe seeks to prohibit all abortions from conception, nation-wide, possibly then proceeding to target pre-coital birth control, and any 'compromise' offered is of the 'give us some of what we want now, and we'll come back for the rest later' variety; thus, the only possible outcomes are 'abortion always legal' and abortion never legal, and the former is less bad than the latter.


The Blue Tribe's rejection of 'common-sense limits on abortion' comes from the same place as the Red Tribe's opposition to 'common-sense limits on guns'.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 10, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


pretty much all of [E]urope and most of the world minus China & Israel sort of, have gestational limits on the practice




But they have a lot fewer people using such limits as a camel's nose for banning abortions at ten weeks.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 10, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Crazy left wing stuff isn’t over yet.






Trans still exists.




Non sequitur, unless by 'crazy left-wing stuff' you mean 'anything Jack Chick didn't like'. Trans people existing does not, in my view, belong in the same bucket as 'refusing to acknowledge biological sex even in medical contexts where it is relevant', 'condemning anyone who refers to the previous name of a trans celebrity even if they were famous under that name', and 'cancelling anyone who doesn't participate in the cancellation of anyone not on board with the cancellation of anyone who disagrees with the trans community'.




For 8k years of human civilization a man wearing women clothing got stoned to death. That’s normal.




One, that was not universal across all civilisations (and they also varied widely in which garments were considered to belong to which gender); two, there have been many things which were considered 'normal' for thousands of years, until we realised that they were inflicting enormous unnecessary suffering, and moved beyond them.


We should focus less on being normal and more on being kind.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
'I suspect he's pretending to be trans for satiric purposes' was merely the first possibility that came to mind. I can't think of any others off-hand, but I do not categorically reject their existence, and I suspect I'd know it when I see it. '[She's] a convicted rapist' is not such an indication because convictions for sexual assault are not the exclusive province of people born with male genitals.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
A mental characteristic which is strongly, but not perfectly, correlated with natal biological sexual characteristics.


I will concede that this is usually not falsifiable with our current abilities, but, as an analogy, if a young child says that she is afraid of a particular object (e. g. a painting or a piece of furniture) in her bedroom in the dark, and wants either said item removed or a nightlight installed, her fear is also not falsifiable. She could be lying for some ulterior motive, or just to enjoy the ability to manipulate her parents. However, if her father were to refuse her request, in order to avoid the slight possibility of her getting away with anything, while subjecting her to the far larger likelihood of spending every night for many years terrified out of her wits, I would be well justified in considering him a right arsehole, and struggle to judge her if, when she is fully grown and he is in his dotage, she gets him placed in the bleakest old-folks'-home she can find and never calls or visits him, or if she manipulates him into signing all of his assets over to her.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If you actually believe in the whole "sex is biology, but gender is a social construct" thing, than "trans identified male" is 100% true and unambiguous




No, because 'biology' can include more than one variable. 'Biologically male' could be 'people with XY chromosomes, including women with androgen-insensitivity syndrome who never knew that they were anything other than cis-women until they sought medical treatment for infertility', 'people born with dangly bits, regardless of later modifications thereto', 'people who currently have dangly bits, including pre-vaginoplasty trans-women and post-phalloplasty trans-men', or 'people with a lot of testosterone and not a lot of estrogen, including trans-men who have been on artificial hormones for some time and trans-women who have not'. All of these categories are biological.


Furthermore, 'male' can also be the adjectival form of 'man'.




"trans woman", which can be interpreted in either direction.




I don't think 'trans-woman', in common usage at least, is ever applied to Elliot Page or Chaz Bono.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


What about if they have no feminine "aspects" to speak of? Then the masculine aspects are more relevant by default.




The 'aspects' to which I was referring are the category including every difference between the modal cis-man and the modal cis-woman. Therefore, a trans-woman's identifying as a woman is a 'feminine aspect'.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of August 3, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The alternative is that salaries never go down in real terms, which is actually really bad when you think about it? Solve for the equilibrium.




I'm not sure to what equilibrium you are referring; can you elaborate?