Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
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Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
16hr ago
Re "We need him for the football team", I would like to state at this time that the same phenomenon is not unheard of with white perpetrators.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
16hr ago
Doesn't the term "Stockholm Syndrome" exist to diagnose a particular case where the objectively bad experience of being kidnapped can be seen by the victim as a good development?
In that particular case, the police somehow managed to make literal bank robbers the lesser evil!
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
16hr ago
Is it appropriate to put a man who is going to jail for raping men into a prison full of men?
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
16hr ago
He is allowed to criticize Wikipedia.
He is also welcome to start his own version with deadnames and deadpronouns if he feels like it.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
16hr ago
any society that passes and maintains an anti discrimination law is one already broadly against discrimination
Sometimes the broader society is against discrimination, while some areas within it are less enlightened. (This was approximately the case with the origin of anti-discrimination laws.)
A 'something sort of like left-libertarianism-ist' solution might be to have anti-discrimination laws, to establish non-discrimination as the baseline standard, but allow businesses to buy exemption from such, with the price going to an organisation rendering assistance to whichever group with which the business owner does not wish to associate; in a major city with fifty bakeries, forty-nine of whom will cater anyone's wedding as long as their money's good, the fiftieth would pay a purely nominal sum to an LGBTQWERTY+-*/ advocates' firm, and be allowed to have a 'one-man-one-woman weddings only' policy; in a small town with two bakeries, both of whose owners hope to attract customers who resent that gay people are permitted to keep their blood inside their bodies, the fee would be increased until either one of them yields, or someone opens a third bakery and undercuts them.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
17hr ago
But I'll bite and explain once more. According to mainstream gender ideology:
- Any person who self-declares themselves as the opposite of their biological is the opposite of their biological sex.
- That person has always been the opposite sex!
- Absolutely no medication or change in behavior is required to become the opposite sex.
My understanding of the matter is more:
- Any person who self-declares themselves as the gender opposite of their biological sex is the opposite gender to their biological sex.
- That person has always been the opposite gender.
- Absolutely no change in biological sex is required to become the opposite gender.
- Other people's biological sex, if they don't bring it up, is none of anyone else's beeswax.
- If you can tell that someone's biological sex is partially or entirely mismatched to their gender, you should keep that to yourself unless they bring it up first, just as you would if they had an embarrassing skin condition or a missing limb.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
17hr ago
The abstract talks about X2 statistics. Now I am not a statistics nerd, but I have encountered the letter χ (chi) in passing and happen to know that it does not identify as X or x.
😹 I hereby award you🥈in the One Joke championships! (The 🥇 goes to 'vegetables thing that identifies as a beef burger'.)
There is no discussion of any of the less obvious confounders.
Or the more obvious confounder that the tribe that is more likely to transition is also more likely to seek psychiatric help?
Some people use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts—for support rather than for illumination.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
1d ago
I don't think being subject of a genocide and/or ethnic cleansing entitles a group to an ethno-state in perpetuity.
A single incident does not justify a perpetual ethno-state; however, the Jewish people have been subjected to a long, long, pattern of persecution, and were unable to escape after the implementation of modern border controls in the wake of the First World War. If we were still in the Phileas-Fogg-era system, or Nathan Robinson's ideal, Am Yisrael might be a bit less worried, knowing that they could always take their packed suitcases to somewhere more tolerant.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
2d ago
passing legislation that would explicitly make immigration from Israel easier
Not good enough. Jewish people fleeing anti-Semitic persecution, under Dr Analog's proposal, would still have to play Mother-May-I with a Gentile immigration officer legally empowered to say "The persecution you're fleeing isn't that bad, and we think you might be moving for economic reasons/you might cost us more money than you pay in taxes/you had minor brushes with the law in your youth/the records where you're coming from are incomplete and we can't be certain that you aren't a murderer; therefore you're going back whence you came, and if you end up in a mass grave, we'll make a bunch of really sad movies about your plight in fifty years or so."
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
4d ago
If they would still be subject to U. S. immigration law, it's a non-starter. In the event that some other country starts persecuting its Jewish population, they can move to Israel under Chok ha-Shvut; a homeland under the jurisdiction of the goyim would be tempted to refuse them entry on the usual grounds, as occurred prior to the Second World War.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
4d ago
I'm not saying it's guaranteed to work; I'm saying it has a possibility of working, whereas the chances of a good outcome from a constant battle between racial groups are as near as makes no difference to zero.
If you go into a casino and bet on a single spin of a roulette wheel, you probably won't win if you bet on any of the numbers from 0-36, but you'll definitely lose if you bet on 93.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
4d ago
We shouldn’t bury our heads to this.
If Fulan al-Fulani commits numerous acts of of sexual assault and grievous bodily harm, we shouldn't bury our heads to it, and Mr al-Fulani should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; I do not disagree with you on this.
However, if Dhuhath al-Dhuhathi has not committed any such crimes, he does not deserve to be treated as bearing responsibility for the actions of Mr al-Fulani.
I would not want to be held accountable for things I didn't do, merely because the people who did them all looked like me; therefore, the Golden Rule precludes subjecting Mr al-Dhuhathi to the same fate.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
4d ago
· Edited 4d ago
I have. I have never supported cultural relativism, and have long argued against the pernicious notion that a vile act done by a white man somehow becomes excusable when done by a Person Of Colour.
I stand against anyone, alt-right or ctrl-left, who claims that a thing forbidden one person ought be permitted another, solely on the grounds of their respective race, class, gender, religious affiliation, &c., or that blame for the misdeeds of one person ought fall on others sharing the aforementioned characteristics.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
4d ago
And if everyone but whites follow that ethic, and whites are the only ones that don't, then what happens?
By setting a good example, you convince everyone else to follow, bringing us to a world where people of every colour and creed work together for mankindish goodgain.
That may seem like a long shot to you, but the odds are a damn sight better than they would be given the eternal existential zero-sum racial warfare advocated for by the failed painter.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
5d ago
If I recall the reports of Rotherham correctly, the typical victim was from the underclass.
This leads us to the deeper origin of the atrocity in question: the belief that humanity can be divided into Lives That Matter and Lives That Don't Matter. Some of the Muslamic Ray Guns made the division at 'Muslims' v. 'infidels'; some of them, the ones who victimised children of Pakistani extraction, drew the line at 'members of my clan' v. 'everyone else'; the police who ignored the issue saw it as 'respectable people' v. 'chavs'. But if your solution is to concede that pernicious belief, and merely to move the boundary to 'white Anglo-Saxons' v. 'brown foreigners', you are not just letting in the proverbial camel's nose, you are admitting almost the entire animal and trying to exclude the tip of its tail.
The correct solution is to put all the progeny of Adam and Eve into the 'Lives That Matter' category; if you need an outgroup to define yourselves against, let it be the Nature which wants half of all children, the white just as much as the brown, black, yellow, and red, to die before they are grown.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
5d ago
And then there's the point that we tolerate from family what we don't from neighbors or strangers.
And my point is that we need to stop doing that.
If everyone follows an ethic of 'lenient rules for Us, strict rules for Them', humanity falls into the abyss of endless conflict. It is only with a universalist ethical system, in which the permissibility of an action does not depend on race, religion, or rank, that we stand any chance of reaching the stars.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
5d ago
I can make assumptions too! Assuming that a large portion of the population has a genetic propensity not to commit violent crime if not committing such guarantees that they will not be convicted of it, and also a genetic propensity, if they are likely to be convicted of horrifying crimes whether or not they committed them, to lash out against the system that put them in such an impossible position out of spite (defecting against those who defected against them in the previous round), rejecting Blackstone might result in more violence than a few 'orrible murderers getting away with their deeds.
Thou call'dst me dog before thou hadst a cause, But since I am a dog, beware my fangs.
--William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice
[I]f you are maximally mean to innocent people, then eventually bad things will happen to you. First, because you have no room to punish people any more for actually hurting you. Second, because people will figure if they’re doomed anyway, they can at least get the consolation of feeling like they’re doing you some damage on their way down.
--Scott Alexander, Slate Star Codex, August 2014
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
5d ago
sometimes innocent people are convicted and sometimes the criminal murderers go free
And it is a fundamental principle of English Law, that one instance of the former ought to be prevented even at the cost of allowing ten of the latter.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
7d ago
Especially if one's surname is 'Bates'.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
7d ago
No, this thread started by talking about how it was a 'great injustice' that a trillionaire existed. That's already out of the realm of engineering; you don't get to switch now and ignore 'philosophical' objections.
Identifying the problem is philosophy; figuring out how to fix it is engineering.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
8d ago
By then Trump will no longer be president and it will be someone else's problem.
Hopefully, someone who knows more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery!
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
15d ago
Many African countries have also improved economically.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
17d ago
Dark humour is like an un-vaccinated child: it never gets old.
Celestial-body-NOS
Liberalism has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.
17d ago
I meant if everyone applies your proposed course of action, including the lower-albedo populations. We are no longer living in the age of "We have the Maxim Gun, and they don't."
Wasn't this at least part of the motivation behind the thing with the drag queens?
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