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Why should Man not rebel against Nature, when Nature herself is in rebellion against Justice?

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Why should Man not rebel against Nature, when Nature herself is in rebellion against Justice?

				
				
				

				

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				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
2: Stop signs are periods, not commas.


3: Where do you live where they have letters in the speed limits? All the ones I've seen are made out of numbers!


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I'm wondering, I suppose, whether there's a way we can employ shame in a truly good way as a society? Can we somehow shame people without turning into monsters ourselves...?




Public shaming is a very dangerous weapon, and if its use is normalised, can easily change targets to things that aren't anyone else's business (e. g. hair length in the 1960s).


Therefore, if it is employed at all, it should be reserved for situations of exceptional moral gravity, of a degree far beyond that attained by any of Aella's lifestyle choices; her father's parenting practises, or the making of excuses for them, would rise to that level.


(Also, the Third (Protestant)/Second (Catholic) Commandment, while commonly interpreted as an injunction against shouting 'G-dd-mn it!' when Mr Hammer meets Mr Thumb, might more accurately be rendered as 'Thou shalt not carry the name of the Lord thy God in vain', i. e., do not claim divine endorsement for your personal prejudices/power-complexes/&c. Thus, calling one's sadistic child-rearing programme 'God's Way' could be argued to be far more blasphemous than the output of Andres Serrano or Chris Ofili that drew so much controversy from Concerned Citizens.)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Inter-ethnic conflict that expresses itself in “cruelty as deterrent” is as historically common as the summer rain.




A lot of things are historically common, but we still condemn them as bad; inter alia, chattel slavery, spousal and child abuse, and many types of war crimes.




This is very “rootless cosmopolitan” coded.




Fair cop; I'm the kind of person who, as Scott Alexander described, sees a headline 'Victory for Man United' and feels inspired until I look at the article and realise it's just some sportsball thing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


they don’t think any nation is really worth defending on its own terms




Correct. Individual human beings are worth defending as an end in themselves; all organisations, from the nation to the East Cupcake Middle School Parent-Teacher Association, have value as a means to an end. (cf. Immanuel Kant).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
A country capable of such measures is not worth defending.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


the argument that roads are paid for with fuel taxes and vehicle registration fees




This probably won't be a popular sentiment here, but I believe that we ought to move more in the direction of funding roads out of general revenue.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 2, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Progressives can post just as easily as they used to, they just don't want to do it when non-progressives have the right to respond.




In other words, they were accustomed to privilege, and now equality feels like oppression?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 2, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Yes, forbidding people from giving food to the poor certainly ought to be a crime. (Chabad, October 2012; Tablet, November 2019)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 26, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
After they wipe out the malarial mosquitos, ticks should be the next target.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 26, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
'If you won't marry anyone but a virgin, then you'd better leave a few of them around!'


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't have an issue with the government paying SpaceX to launch government satellites.


The Blue Tribe has similar antipathy for Mr Musk as the Red Tribe has for Harvard. I was making the point that the monies that they get from the government are both of the form 'Government gives money to rich person/organisation in exchange for services rendered', and thus they are both analogous to @Soul_Stuff giving money to Walmart in exchange for groceries.


(As for my general Views on SpaceX, while I have a few notes on Mr Musk's politics, I suspect that the people calling for his head are not being entirely honest about their motives, and are more driven by resentment not that he is wealthy per se so much as his having the temerity to not be subject to the high-school-cafeteria-style pecking order. I could be wrong.


Futhermore, even if one accepts the aspersions cast against Mr Musk's character, ending the eight-year, ten-month, nine-day period in which America Could Not Into Space has to count for something.)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Same thing applies to the Blue-Tribe hue and cry over the government paying Elongated Muskrat to put their satellites in orbit....


(edit: the government's satellites; NASA, USGS, NRO, &c. &c.). Sorry if that wasn't clear.


				

				

						

							

								
    
									
									
									
									
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				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					




Would hamas accept a two state solution on these borders?








I think so, yes




I wish I shared your optimism....


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What conditions did they refuse to accept?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


before his own people hung him from a bridge




Hanged him from a bridge. He's not a bloody tapestry!


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


My white, Evangelical, smoking and drinking are sins circle faired very well.




I think this part should be hyphenated, as otherwise it becomes a garden-path sentence.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


self-checkout machine






efficient, human-free experience




What kind of machines do they have where you live?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
If He had died by very slow decay, would that have counted as a sufficient sacrifice by God Incarnate?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


A woman was in the custody of the Soviet secret police. These sometimes took a perverse joy in breaking people they weren’t going to let leave alive anyway, and they had decided to break her faith. When maiming her legs didn’t do it, they brought in her children and threatened to shoot them if she did not deny Christ. She refused, and the secret police shot her children in front of her.




To digress to another religion, this kind of thing is what taqiyya was originally for.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I could be wrong about their motivations, but the impression I get from the Episcopal Church's decision is something along the lines of "The administration is aiding white people who are or might be in danger of their lives, while telling people of colour in similar danger that they are obligated to stay in their own countries and die. This suggests that the administration believes that the life of a white person matters more than that of a person of colour. This belief is a grave sin, and we refuse to be complicit in it."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Failure to grasp this is how you wind up with “Love wins” and “Hate has no home here” churches that would never tell anyone they are living in specific sin.




At least some of those churches condemn sin, but merely disagree with you about whether certain things are sinful (e. g. whatever happens in Pete and Chasten Buttigieg's bedroom).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 12, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


“You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” is the second greatest commandment. The greatest is, “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.” The two commandments are not the same, and the order is important.




But if Man is made in the Image of God, is not 'loving our neighbor as ourself' how we 'love the Lord our God with all our heart and with all our, &c., &c.'?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 5, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


People of my grandmother’s generation could and did accept that.




And people of her grandmother's generation accepted that women would have to toil endlessly hand-washing clothes.


Her grandmother's generation accepted that childbirth would be a pit of suffering.


Just because our ancestors endured something does not mean that we must or should.




The existence of organisations like NICE in the UK also tacitly accepts this fact.




They could support more people if the government hadn't underfunded the NHS!




telling parents that if they raise 500,000 dollars it will increase their child’s survival rate slightly




In some cases it is a lot more than 'slightly'. There are reliable treatments for many cancers which would have been considered terminal 40 years ago; however, these can be expensive.


Thus, my question is "There is a medical treatment which, if given to Timmy, means that he is almost certain to live; without it, he is almost certain to die. His parents can not afford to pay for this treatment, and do not have insurance that will cover it. What is the right thing for them to do?".




Being hard-hearted




Let me know how that works out for you.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 5, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


He spoke of “building bridges,”




'Pontiff' derives from 'pontifex', Latin for 'bridge-builder'.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 5, 2025
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					




Most of those are "little 8 year old Timmy has cancer" not "CW grifting".








I regard both of these as examples of grifting.




Does that include the cases in which they actually do need the money to pay Timmy's medical bills? (Edit: and he has a 1% chance of survival without treatment and a 99% chance with)


If so, what, in your opinion, is the ethical path for Timmy's parents?