ChickenOverlord
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ChickenOverlord
1d ago
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fighting words
People really, really, really seem to misunderstand what "fighting words" are. Even if we ignore that the Supreme Court has been backing away from treating fighting words as a real thing for several decades now, even in the cases where they are treated as a real thing they require the person saying the words and the person hearing the words to be in each other's physical presence. They're called "fighting words" because they're words that will likely lead to an actual fight, then and there.
ChickenOverlord
3d ago
It's been happening on bombs and missiles for more than a century, so...
Try more than 2000 years. The inscription says "Catch!" in Greek.
ChickenOverlord
4d ago
That's largely because trans subverted and devoured feminism wholesale
ChickenOverlord
4d ago
Sounds like we're all in agreement then, resisting is the worse option.
ChickenOverlord
5d ago
You're assuming that the Bishop of Rome is actually Peter's successor is an established fact. Even though Linus and Clement are both mentioned in the Bible, they are never explicitly mentioned as Peter's successors, and no one identifies them as such until ~180 AD, 81 years after Clement's death.
ChickenOverlord
5d ago
There is a sarcastic line about such people becoming Theologists.
This unironically is basically the primary argument of Al-Ghazali's famous (or infamous, depending on your perspective) Incoherence of the Philosophers. He basically argues that all of the debating and mental masturbation by a lot of philosophers and theologists are thinly veiled covers for their atheism. He was mostly talking about Islam, but many of the same arguments can easily be applied to many Christian thinkers.
James (the bishop of Jerusalem) clearly had the final word on disagreements
I earnestly hope you will find comfort knowing that Christ's sacrifice has already justified you, and you don't need to do anything to earn his grace
Catholics don't believe that grace is earned (and neither do Mormons), but that doesn't negate the need for works. James would heartily disagree with you as well, but I'm already quite familiar with the tortured exegesis Protestants use to disregard the blatantly explicit condemnation of sola fide provided by James:
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
If good works are a natural result of having faith, then why don't the devils, whom James explicitly states believe, perform good works as a result?
Bonus question on an unrelated topic, the "priesthood of all believers" that many Protestants believe in: If Simon the magician in the book of Acts believed (as it explicitly said he did) then why didn't he automatically have the same power and authority as Peter and the rest of the apostles? Ditto for women who believe (I assume you're part of a denomination that does not have female clergy).
ChickenOverlord
6d ago
Here's a bunch of nerds discussing it in depth:
The one caveat I'll give is that most of the answers seem to be from Protestants who seem to mostly agree with Luther's decision. That said, one of the answers directly quotes Luther himself talking about the controversy over his translation, so that was quite interesting to read.
Edit: For what it's worth, members of my faith (Mormon) largely agree with the Catholic interpretation of the verse, and with Catholics about the need for works in addition to faith.
ChickenOverlord
6d ago
Not OP but a common story told in Protestant circles is that the Catholic Church did not want the Bible translated into the common languages of the people so that they couldn't decide for themselves what to believe (or something along those lines). Reality is a bit more complicated (as per usual) and the simplified version of this story told by Protestants these days isn't accurate, and the existence of translations of the Bible into common languages long before Luther is clear evidence of this. Even the name of Saint Jerome's 4th century translation of the Bible into Latin, the Vulgate, is evidence of this (same etymology as vulgar, i.e. in the language of the commoners). Also widespread illiteracy and the high cost of books would have kept most people from reading the Bible even if there were translations available in their language.
That said, there is a certain kernel of truth to the story that Protestants tell. Certain translators (most notably William Tyndale and his English translation) were persecuted by the church because their choices in translation undermined certain doctrines of the church, etc. So the church definitely wanted to exert control over who was allowed to translate the Bible and how they were allowed to translate it.
ChickenOverlord
6d ago
Unitarians are so off-putting that even the Simpsons has regularly used them as the butt of jokes:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pe6Ol5kO0Ks?si=LXikLwww792dapv-
I have a sibling who decided to leave our church (Mormon) and became a Unitarian because he wanted to still be ostensibly Christian to not completely alienate my parents (or at least that's my impression of why). Frankly I would have respected his decision more if he'd straight up come out as atheist or agnostic.
ChickenOverlord
6d ago
Admittedly, these people are all employed, so they're not really worried about being outcompeted by an allegedly illiterate Indian software dev.
I don't have to be unemployed to be concerned about downward pressure on wages due to an increased supply of labor.
His partner was a man in a dress, though
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