ChickenOverlord
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ChickenOverlord
6hr ago
Not sure how they can square that with the need for baptism (even of infants).
ChickenOverlord
7hr ago
the Jesuits rub their hands sinisterly and huddle together plotting and scheming in the shadows (naturally)
A man walks up to a Franciscian and a Jesuit. "How many novenas do I have to pray to get a Ferrari?" he asks.
The Franciscan looks confused, and says "What's a Ferrari?" The Jesuit looks confused too, and says "What's a novena?"
ChickenOverlord
18hr ago
The question is not whether the Indian in question was literally born inside a reservation, but whether the Indian is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
But you said the meaning was clear, and this is very far outside your initial clear interpretation.
There was some room to debate it but Wong Kim Ark settled that and has stood as precedent for well over a hundred and twenty years.
Yes, and I'm saying Wong Kim Ark (and Schooner, for that matter) were decided wrong.
ChickenOverlord
18hr ago
Immediately after the passing of the 14th, natives born off the reservation, on American soil, did not get citizenship. It clearly meant something more than your simple, straightforward interpretation.
ChickenOverlord
1d ago
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
What do you understand this phrase to mean? And why wouldn't it have sufficed to just say "All persons born or naturalized in the United States", why was the "subject to the jurisdiction" part needed at all if it says it as clearly as you claim?
ChickenOverlord
1d ago
Because the people of Pakistan totally would have built something so much better if they were simply on the magic soil of America, obviously.
ChickenOverlord
1d ago
Roe v. Wade was overturned only 50 years later, Brown v. Board of Education overturned Plessy v. Ferguson only 60 years later.
ChickenOverlord
1d ago
Like it or not, the Constitution is unambiguous with respect to birthright citizenship.
No, it really isn't: "Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." - Jacob Howard, drafter of the 14th Amendment
Children of foreigners, aliens, and diplomats were not intended to be covered by the 14th by the very author of the amendment.
The Supreme Court has issued a ruling on Trump v. Barbara (birthright citizenship). 6-3 striking down Trump's executive order. You can find the ruling here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-365_4hdj.pdf
I've only had enough time to skim the ruling thus far. Jackson wrote a concurrence which I won't bother to read because she's the second most retarded member of the court (Sotomayor still reigns supreme in retardation). Kavanaugh partially concurred on the basis that this needed to be done by act of congress as opposed to executive order, but otherwise generally agreed with the Trump admin's interpretation of the 14th amendment. Thomas and Gorsuch outright dissented. Alito had his own separate dissent. Thomas's opinion includes several historical examples of people born on US soil to people not lawfully in the US who were denied citizenship, and I was not aware of these examples previously, making his the most interesting. Well that and the fact that it agrees with my 100% objectively correct and indisputable view of the matter of course.
This is roughly how most court-watchers expected this decision to turn out, but it still doesn't change the immense disappointment I feel over this news. Someone here earlier this week or last week said that this decision will be our generation's Dred Scott regardless of how it is decided, and that it will tear the union apart in similar fashion. Demographic changes in the West generally are leading to ever increasing tension and dysfunction, and I fear this decision will ensure that a breaking point is reached soooner, rather than later.
ChickenOverlord
2d ago
I imagine trying to make the Fed's power explicit via amendment would tank a lot of the support for their powers.
As one of our resident weeaboos and a big fan of Japan generally I'd say this is mostly true rather than the writer having an axe to grind. You see this all the time in anime and older games (especially in stuff from before western studios dedicated to localizing stuff into English became more commonplace, those have their own major issues related to wokeness and similar things that I won't dive into right now). There's just all kinds of gibberish and Engrish found all over inside of these works, and it's due to most Japanese people just not learning English very well (if at all).
Some fun examples off the top of my head:
Animes and mangas being given nonsensical English titles by their Japanese authors. My favorite example of this is the manga All You Need Is Kill. You probably know it better from its film adaptation (starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt): Edge of Tomorrow.
Opening and closing credit songs for animes being in horrible Engrish. For example the first line to the closing credits song for the first season of Frieren is broken English, with the singer saying "And you alright" instead of "Are you alright?" or "And you're alright" (not sure which was intended). Or the opening credits song to the 4th season of Legend of the Galactic Heroes clearly being sung by someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.
My favorite random example from the Studio Ghibli film The Cat Returns. In the background in one of the early scenes in the movie, there are banners in the background of some town square that read "Crossroad". Near the end of the film there is another scene in the same location the banners now read "Crossload". I might have the order mixed up here, it's been a few years since I watched it. Studio Ghibli is basically the premiere animation studio in Japan, often called the "Japanese Disney", so that even they make mistakes like this is telling when it comes to the typical level of English fluency in Japan.
English is just a hard language, especially when coming from a language like Japanese. This has at least had the beneficial effect of somewhat insulating Japan from the world of woke retardation, so I can't really complain. And honestly the Engrish and other mistakes and issues are endearing.
ChickenOverlord
4d ago
If the subject is civil rights law, you should know Plessy and Brown.
Sure, but until the recentish past I always saw them as Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education. And the full name is far easier to Google.
From my recollection the trend started in earnest around the time of Obergefell v. Hodges, which the media seemed to love calling just Obergefell.
I don't see why Watson v RNC is even controversial at all to the point of being a Supreme Court case.
It's effectively for the same reasons things like mandatory voter id are controversial in the US: claims by the Democrats that it will be used to disenfranchise minorities and similar claims, claims by the Republicans that this is all a cover for election fraud (which the Democrats insist totally never happens except for those times a few decades ago when it totally did but it totally hasn't happened since they swear).
ChickenOverlord
5d ago
Its not like a diplomat (or their child) can commit a homicide and the US will just ignore it and not prosecute.
That's, like, the whole point of diplomatic immunity.
Funnily enough that's basically the opposite of the Mormon view. We believe that babies that die are automatically saved, meanwhile we perform proxy baptisms for the dead, and those dead need to accept the baptism from the other side for it to be of any use. I.e. those who would have accepted the gospel and been baptized if they had been given the opportunity can still be saved, but it still requires an actual proxy baptism to be performed for them by the living.
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