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In response to the Afghan national attacking National guard troops in DC Trump promised to "permanently pause" immigration from all Third world countries in a Truth Social post. That sounded too good to be true and it was.
Trump is actually pausing immigration from only 19 countries, which are Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.
Meanwhile the top sources of 3rd world immigration are Mexico, India, Philippines, El Salvador, Vietnam, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Guatemala and Colombia. The only place where those two lists overlap is Cuba.
MAGAs must make up their minds about whom they dislike first.
Are you worried about demographic replacement, elite takeover or unintegrated criminals ?
"Stop all non-white immigration" may resonate in some circles, but isn't representative of American or Trump voter preferences.
His actions are in reaction to unintegrated criminals, primarily from Islamist nations. Why would you expect it to affect Mexico, India or the Philippines ?
Trump's post only vaguely points to his intentions vis-a-vis legal migrants.
Lets see.
This would imply removal of benefits for all green card holders ? Visa holders don't get federal benefits anyway. Immigrants must pay into social security, pay taxes and rising visa fees. All while being ineligible for benefits. Cool. What was that about taxation without representation ?
Americans already agree that violent felons who lied on their naturalization doc should be deported. Visa & green card holders with felonies are already banned from reentry. Outside existing norms (terrorism, child predator, Nazi), it is very hard to de-naturalize an American who got their citizenship legally. Trump has limited power and courts have a ton of precedent. Doesn't help that it requires a jury to convict.
Apart from criminality, How does Trump define 'incompatible with western civilization' ? Maybe he means the Amish, the native Americans, the Mormon or the Scientologists ? Does he mean pluralist, liberal & tolerant ? Does he mean white, protestant and english speaking ? IMO, it's a whole lot of words that mean nothing. Trump 101.
Personally, I'm sick of white supremacists using motte-and-baileys to criticize immigrants.
It's revealing that Indians, Mexicans and Filipinos are the main groups they have issues with.
Indians are a model minority, speak English, from a pluralistic democracy and uniquely economically productive. Other than color and religion, they satisfy every bar for a model American.
Mexicans are devout Christians, take all the 'shit' jobs, have a fair claim to the land and work harder than any 'sanctity of work' protestant I've seen. There are valid concerns about criminals and cartel members. But, as we covered before, Americans and Trump are already aligned on their deportation. If every illegal immigrant and every Mexican criminal is deported, Mexicans will still continue immigration in large numbers through legal family based migration and birthright citizenship for children of legal workers.
Filipinos are devout Christians, pre-indoctrinated (due to American colonial occupation), peaceful and most immigrate to fill middle-of-the-pack essential jobs in healthcare, military and education.
There is no venn diagram that fits all 3 groups except - "not white". If you want fewer non-whites. Just say that.
P.S: I've heard geographic arguments claiming 'America is full' and they don't want more immigrants of any color. I am not going to address why this opinion is bad. It's a tired one.
They only speak English for certain definitions of "speak" and "English." That vast majority of my coworkers are based out of Mumbai, but I have several that are Indians living in southern California that have been in the US for years and their English is only marginally better than those who are still in India. Took me 4 months of listening to them talk daily to finally be able to understand them 75% of the time. Meanwhile my Russian and Belarusian coworkers still have noticeable accents but are quite easy to understand 98% of the time.
India's democracy is corrupt and full of ethnic/religious spoils, and I'm sure that America's slow but steady slide into a similar system is in no small part caused by immigration from countries like India that have ethnic spoils systems. Affirmative action in America is bad enough, but it has nothing on caste-based affirmative action in India. And don't get me started on caste-based discrimination by Indian employees in Anerican companies against other Indians. I see this pretty regularly at my work, I make a point of looking up my coworkers' last names since it's a fairly reliable indicator of caste and their treatment of and by other coworkers usually follows certain patterns based on caste.
And I don't know about other fields, but in software development Indians are not economically productive. In fact I would go so far as to say they are financial drains on most companies they work for. For every decently competent Indian dev at my company there are 30 drooling retards that make more work for the competent people. The reason companies still hire them is because demand for software development in the world is greater than the amount of competent software developers in the world are able to deliver. But with retarded project management systems like agile and scrum you can barely squeeze out a kind of functional product from incompetent devs. Combine this with the fact that most companies are awful at filtering out the competent devs from the incompetent ones and you get modern enterprise software development.
I have pretty much zero issues with Filipinos so long as they actually speak English fluently. Pinoys tend to be bros in my experience.
With Mexicans, my biggest issue is criminality, followed by dilution of my vote, and suppression of wages in third. Legal Mexicans that speak English well and integrate well with society don't bother me. Got a lovely couple (Mexican husband, white wife) across the street from me and they're fantastic neighbors.
I have a problem with Indians because I hate the content of their character. Indians that do not fit the stereotypes of their poor character are few and far between in my experience, and I work with tons of them (both ones in India and the US) every damn day.
Whiteness and race in general don't matter too much for me, except inasmuch as they are useful proxies for who is likely to be a civilization wrecker vs. a civilization destroyer. One specific example I think of often is this guy: https://imgur.com/rawhide-kobayashi-4FjiGcJ
I know it's a meme and probably not a real person, but I don't give a damn that he's Japanese, he's culturally American for all I care. I hope someone like him was actually able to move to Texas and marry a hot blonde cowgirl with big boobs and make lots of hapa babies with her on his cattle ranch. Some Filipinos and Mexicans are able to do the same kind of assimilation, very few Indians are.
EDIT: To clarify my position a bit, I am in favor of drastically reducing all immigration, even from groups that I generally like, because of my issues with vote dilution, wage suppression, housing prices, etc. But I'm especially in favor of outright ending or drastically limiting immigration from shithole countries/cultures like India.
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