ControlsFreak
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ControlsFreak
6d ago
Yeah, I'mma need you to actually give a reason why you think I'm not engaging in good faith. Otherwise, this is pretty much just another bald accusation.
I just gave you a thorough explanation of what I believe, as you asked for. What have you given me in response? Where is your good faith?
In the words of my wife, she "knew", but didn't "know know".
After we got married, she just started eating about the same as what I was eating. Neither of us paid much attention. She didn't gain all that much, but realized she was gaining and wanted to stop/reverse it. I talked to her and set out some plans. Sure, she "knew" that how much you eat/calories had something to do with it, but she didn't "know know". She played along with my plan, but every other week, there was, "Maybe it's not working anymore!" "Maybe my metabolism has changed!" And so on. All these things correspond with the FUD that is constantly attached to the basic statements of the reality of the situation.
Guess what? It kept working. Every time. It wasn't until after multiple rounds of her thinking it wasn't working and me telling her to stop complaining and just do it that she "knew knew".
I think you've probably met yourself in the western world. I honestly would guess (I'm not sure, but I would guess) that you don't "know know". This is not a question about whether you or others are "vaguely aware". As I put it in my other comment:
Not in a, "Sure, calories theoretically matter, BUT [insert any of a million excuses people give to proceed to immediately ignore calories]," way, but in a genuine, "Ok, my weight actually does meaningfully correspond in the long run to the calories I consume and the calories I expend, even if my measurement of the phenomena is noisy," way.
I far more often meet people in the western world who believe some form of the former rather than the latter.
ControlsFreak
6d ago
I've already done so, twice.
I don't think you have. You haven't even given me a complete sentence.
If you believe I'm mistaken, please say what you do believe.
I wrote an entire long comment on what I believe.
Allow me to add some additional things I believe.
I believe that people shouldn't conflate describing a problem and fixing it. I also believe that people shouldn't falsely accuse others of doing so. I also believe that if you want me to take you seriously, you need to at least do a "Yes, but" instead of a "But".
Moreover, I believe that your entire initial comment was premised on this false accusation. If this accusation was false and irrelevant, then I believe that your entire original comment was irrelevant. I don't believe there's anything in it for me to respond to unless your accusation is true. Thus, an emphasis on determining its truth value. I believe I need more than two words to support your accusation. A complete sentence would be preferred. Alternatively, if you'd like to admit that your accusation was false, then I would be happy for you to have a redo on your original comment. I'd like to hear some of your thoughts that are responsive to my thoughts. I don't particularly like hearing your thoughts that are only oriented toward a strawman.
For what? What rule? Be serious.
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