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DaseindustriesLtd

late version of a small language model

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User ID: 745

So, despite 15 years of supposed collapse

There's been no collapse, but there is a great deal of ruin in a nation. Canada has been a great country to live in, and it is still good by OECD standards. Canada is just on a starkly different growth trajectory from the southern neighbor (to wit, it does NOT grow, among other problems), a trajectory that holds no promise of changing. 10-15 years ago it was on par with the US in per capita GDP, then trends diverged more and more. In 2020 this was still easy to ignore, and anyway perceptions take time to change, the British are still stereotyped as sophisticated gentlemen in some parts of the world.

You attribute the quality of Canada in the past to Canadians, and the current condition to the government of Canada. But it's, of course, made of Canadians as well. My point is that the governance of Canada seemed to be successful, based on results, and for the last decades the results are getting worse and worse.

Americans also have a lot of cruel things to say about their governance, and about each other. I dismiss their entitled whining because the actual performance has been and remains superior to the competition.

Census says 126,340 people left Canada for the U.S. in 2022, a 70 per cent increase over a decade ago

sounds bad, but what do I know.

Israelis hadn't changed, but the clearly rising antisemitism among the western left and its Islamic neighborhood pushed Israelis to vote for the one cynical hawk in town : Bibi. While politics shifted right, the average Israeli remained a normal person.

this is quite tendentious.

Israelis have changed, and will change more. Demographically, politically, culturally. Israel today is not some offshoot of Western Civilization but a higher-IQ Middle Eastern nation, with all that follows. This narrative is getting very stale.

I wasn't talking of Canadian perceptions. Are you playing for pity now with this ridiculous «nuh-uh»? Yes it was.

But Canadians were endlessly preening about their moral superiority and greater civility and safety, too, much to the consternation of Americans. Still are, to an extent. This is very easy to observe in the wild.

It's always funny to watch a person unravel like this. You want to prove me stupid and ignorant on every turn, even when it's completely beside the point and your attack is not very tenable. I didn't want to get this result, you could have simply been content with me refusing to elaborate on the genius of American deep state.

Hajnali mentality is not that deep, scratch and there's the same rabid animal underneath.

P.S. I don't remember what I was taught in the geography class about Canada. It's not been heavy on politics. Probably just oil sands and climate, stuff like that.

or I imagine you'd retreat to a motte of achieve comparable GDP growth rates to the US

Do you really think this would be a mere "motte"? Canada used to be seen as a “nicer America”, an uncontroversially well-running state. Then they went all in on replacement migration in the name of muh GDP, and achieved GDP growth… proportionate to the population increase, per capita they've stagnated for a decade (quite a feat given that they've been importing hundreds of thousands of "talents" from China and India, I presume many of them legitimate). Now even first generation immigrants flee south for better opportunities, the government barely has popular mandate, and there's increasingly not-jokey talk about Alberta accepting American annexation. Yes, this is exactly how actual state incompetence looks like, the US isn't doing that.

For the case of EU, you can read this.

The issue with state regulation of AI is obviously that all relevant AI in the US is produced in California, maybe a little bit in Texas. This would have never flied with a Republican administration, but even that aside it's clearly discriminatory against everyone else who will experience the effects of Californian regulation.

Spy satellites contribute so little to the total mass to orbit that you never even needed SpaceX for that (i don't consider Starlink a primarily national security project, because it's not).

For delivering payloads, including probably international ones, China will begin catching up next year. I do not assume that Americans will be contracting them, no, so in that sense SpaceX is poised to maintain its near-monopoly.

It is believed that the crop of reusable rocket startups is attributable to Robin Li, the founder of Baidu, getting into National People's Congress, and advocating for legalization of private space businesses in 2010s. So far, there have been three Chinese entities that have conducted VTOL tests for reusable rockets.

  1. China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC), June 23, 2024
  2. LandSpace, September 11, 2024
  3. Space Epoch, May 29, 2025

There are others which are further behind.

Technologically, they are several iterations behind, but strategically I'd say they save significant advantages over the current SpaceX (a usual feature of Chinese fast-following). For example Space Epoch Yuanxingzhe-1 is basically a small Starship (or a better, thicker Falcon-9, if Falcon-9 were designed today). Stainless steel, metholox, will naturally plug into the existing and state-subsidized logistics, including military facilities that currently produce aviation parts (as a small point, Falcon's extreme height-to-width ratio is obviously suboptimal and downstream of American highway standards, but China had no problem building dedicated roads). LandSpace Zhuque-3 VTVL-1 is similar (they can boast of the first metholox engine to make it to orbit).

But as you rightfully notice, it's not clear if this will have much effect on the SpaceX bottom line, since Americans can saturate their cadence anyway. In all likelihood it will only unnerve some people in Washington as a symbolic thing.

Or are you trying to make the argument that the US state department is competent, but got played by even bigger-brained Israelis?

More charitably, I think that the US and Israel are a geopolitical bloc with shared elites, in which core US interests sometimes take a backseat for the bigger picture, to some consternation of the electorate. The US is long-term invested in the Israeli dominance in the Middle East. This isn't even different from the official rhetoric.

Ah, that was very generous of them. I'm sure self-interest played no part in it, and it's not even clear what you mean by that - buying treasuries? If so, they bought treasuries throughout the early 2000s at a rate not that different from 2008 - was that also for altruistic reasons?

It was after this paragraph that I decided to just stop reading. A Hajnali is just a Hajnali, in your head reality and morality melt together, a proper and cooperative action must be morally motivated, so you will engage in these ridiculous theatrics because you feel morally outraged at China and at me. It's so annoying.

Of course China did it for self-interest. As for buying treasuries. Have you actually checked? That was the sharpest sustained acceleration on the chart.

Some facts gathered by a Chinese open-source AI, which you could freely use instead of trying to be clever:

  • In November 2008, China launched a ¥4 trillion ($586 billion) stimulus (13% of its GDP), dwarfing the U.S. stimulus (5% of GDP) 1 … This rapid recovery boosted global markets and commodity demand
  • Mechanism of Support: China recycled trade surpluses into U.S. Treasuries to maintain a weak yuan, ensuring export competitiveness. By 2008, it held $700 billion in U.S. debt. This provided critical demand for U.S. debt during massive deficit spending (e.g., TARP bailouts)

During 2008, about half of China’s total reserve accumulation of $400 billion went towards net purchases of U.S. treasury bills and bonds.

During September to November 2008, the latest three-month period for which data are currently available from the U.S. Treasury, Chinese purchases of U.S. treasury bills and bonds amounted to nearly $123 billion—this at a time when U.S. financial markets were in deep turmoil. The continued flow of Chinese money into U.S. treasuries is of course rather convenient for the U.S. at a time when it faces the prospect of having to finance a massive budget deficit.

All this has saddled China with provincial debt, bloated real estate market, and systemic imbalances they're still not finished dealing with.

Of course not just China, everyone had to pay for American profligacy and scamming, to avoid a truly catastrophic recession. But my argument here was not that China Good: solely that allowing Chinese development in the first place, instead of pursuing a more negative-sum strategy, was not a blunder or a betrayal of American self-interest. America actually can benefit from global growth (eg by getting bailed out in a crisis, after having become a pillar of global economy). Chinese growth prior to this phase of conflict is, therefore, not evidence of American Deep State being incompetent.

You've lost track of that, and I've lost interest in combing through your rather emotional text. In short, Vietnam was premised on a reasonable fear of the domino effect, and most specifically-American problems (eg falling birth rate isn't one) are genuinely hard to solve due to the nature of American economy and population. The tradeoffs so far have been very worth it, accumulating towards even greater ones, and I believe they have been greater than what the American population without such high-IQ stewardship could hope to earn.

For the contrary example, look no further than the EU and Canada. They have comparable population quality, are at the same stage of development, and share many of your natural advantages. How have the last 20 years been for them? Are they famed for their Deep State? I rest my case.