DeepNeuralNetwork
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DeepNeuralNetwork
3hr ago
What really matters is genetics. The impressiveness of any action is socially constructed except for violence (historically, basically impossible to succeed at in modernity), reproduction, and to some extent wealth acquisition (the money is real, the impressiveness of the actions taken to get it is socially constructed. But the money matters and it makes people jealous). Genetics controls potential to succeed at these.
Your behavior is an example. Any achievement I have that you don't is trivial, unimportant, a waste of time, or not impressive. Any achievement you or your group has, is admired. If I had a humans factory I could easily manufacture a larger group that thinks everything you admire is not impressive, and admires things which you find unadmirable. At the end of the day though, what really matters is who polices whom, who has more money than whom, and who outbreeds whom.
DeepNeuralNetwork
3hr ago
By 15 there's enough sexual dimorphism.
some sort of polygot
Not a great g signal but I speak French, German, and Arabic.
No, people who brag about their IQ online tend to just be arrogant autists in that 120 range who think they are geniuses, call it a heuristic
You are right. I think if I saw my own comments in the wild from another person I'd start with that prior and shift upwards due to the intelligent logic like the critique of the pedigree lingo, the assessment of hiring practices from a psychometric point of view, as well as the concept of Fallacy of Sufficient Competition. Aka, the poster is wrecking 115-125 IQ normies which is a robust sign of higher intelligence. You have to be smart enough to do this yourself to appreciate it, though. If you're not I guess it just sounds like bullshit or something, maybe like what that here_and_gone poster sounds like to me.
DeepNeuralNetwork
3hr ago
Idk you seem to be struggling with the concept of pedigree and large interview sample size.
"Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist." I'm not struggling, I'm criticizing from a position of intuitive mastery of the fundamentals. Someone who hasn't mastered the basics misinterprets that as "wrong" or "dumb."
DeepNeuralNetwork
4hr ago
I never discussed how I, specifically, wasn't hired. I haven't even applied yet!
DeepNeuralNetwork
4hr ago
Most people with claimed 140 IQ are overestimating by 20 points. I know enough about psychometrics to know how to avoid that for myself. On their scale, I tend to tell them I'm 160 IQ, because that more efficiently communicates the level in their lingo.
DeepNeuralNetwork
4hr ago
I'm pretty much wiping the floor of fallacies in this thread, so I think I have a better grasp on empirics of the world than the median mottizen. As for what I want out of the world, well, I've gotten what's possible so far, I'm 95th %ile income for my age and have a happy, very young marriage, which is what I wanted instead of money. Now I want to be rich, and I think I will be in 5 years, given my intelligence and track record.
DeepNeuralNetwork
7hr ago
That is exactly what you would say if the AoC were 21 and I wanted to lower it to 18.
DeepNeuralNetwork
7hr ago
That would be gay. When it's a girl it's not called eromenos, just a wife.
DeepNeuralNetwork
7hr ago
A worldly comment which derails abstract discussion of hiring practices.
DeepNeuralNetwork
7hr ago
Most people serious overrate the psychometric ability of hiring managers. I've talked to quants and many are not that smart. They're probably 97th percentile strivers. I put myself around true 140 IQ.
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
You just committed the FOSC over a probably 2% improvement
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
The fallacy of sufficient competition is asserting that observed practices are optimal because you assume without evidence that the market is competitive enough to optimize itself, when the reality is often that people and firms are too finite to reach perfect optimization through competitive processes alone.
Honestly, though, to me it just sounds like you farmed good scores on easy tests and are very good at finding excuses for avoiding the hard ones that satisfy yourself.
We know how SAT translates to IQ, we don't know for math competitions, though I suspect the ceiling is in the 130s just the like the SAT and it's just ethnic chauvinism that leads to unsupported assertions to the contrary.
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
You're clearly not very good at hiring then. Maybe realistic from what I'm hearing although I think a lot of it here is jealousy and not genuine advice. I'll probably still get a good quant job because their hiring managers can't be that racist against white people and biased towards overrated brand name schools.
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
Look having been in your shoes of sparkling-good-but-not-elite academic accomplishment, being a mildly autistic egotistical white guy getting moderately discriminated against in hiring and academic admissions.
My academic accomplishment is elite, you're insulting my background because you subjectively prefer a couple of brand names. I am smarter than a lot of MIT students and my résumé clearly demonstrates it.
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
Replying to "life's unfair, but that's just the way it is" with "but it's unfair!" is called whining.
I never said that.
DeepNeuralNetwork
8hr ago
Do you suppose their hiring could be good but not perfect?
DeepNeuralNetwork
21hr ago
Relevant means that it boosts job performance. It's a disctinct concept from a desired hiring signal.
saying you are in the top 1% of brainpower out there is just going to make you come off as an arrogant jerk, so drop that line).
I don't have to say it directly if they're smart enough to understand test results. I'm beginning to think this whole quant thing is a DEI program for foreign swots, the way actual intelligence is belittled in exchange for inferior signals that are easier for foreign swots to get and game.
DeepNeuralNetwork
21hr ago
I doubt they get that many apps from the top percentile. Top percentile is probably top 25% or more at a quant firm.
DeepNeuralNetwork
21hr ago
How successful do you think a firm that only hires people between the 98th and 99th percentile would be?
DeepNeuralNetwork
22hr ago
Do you think hiring is the only factor in firm profitability?
DeepNeuralNetwork
22hr ago
It is not. What makes you think it's disingenuous?
DeepNeuralNetwork
23hr ago
It's silly to think the correlation between hiring competence and profit is 1. Or even over .70.
DeepNeuralNetwork
1d ago
I need money to start a family and grad school isn't relevant to the job. I really don't believe my competitors are top 1% among HYPSM people on a valid measure. I think a competent firm would interview me based on my credential and my test scores and claimed knowledge. If they don't, they're probably some mixture of incompetent (they're bad at interpreting signals: they don't know what high test scores mean, and overweight brand name, which is really bad from a psychometric POV) or, to be honest, racist. Is it a coincidence these firms seem to value stereotypically Asian signals? Why don't they have killer quant firms in China if math competitions are such a good predictor of performance? Is it any different than only recruiting smart men who were pretty good at rugby or lacrosse? Why don't they do that instead? I mean, it certainly signals something.
There is no reason their practices are more EV+ than my suggestions. I could very well improve their hiring processes, but this hasn't happened due to lack of the sufficient competition which would require this. Their hiring practices are good enough to let them be profitable firms, while still letting me rationally critique them.
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