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I'm going against this advice, albeit temporarily. The counter advice is -

you can only prioritize 1 hard thing at a time.

In 2024, I took the 'just do it' advice. I wanted to start a startup asap. I began moonlighting. Built decks, figma walkthroughs, demos, talked to customers. But, all I have to show for it is a YC reject. I lost my cofounder (still my best friend) when he decided to pursue family goals instead. I couldn't do the startup justice while juggling another taxing job. I burnt the candle at both ends, and ended the year with a bad health scare.

I should've 'set myself up for success'. But the desperation to move at all costs put me on the back foot. I still want to start the startup, but I'm now going to do it by going back the basics.

2025, I'm taking a chill stop gap job. I want to take my time evaluating the right cofounder, getting health sorted so I can do a startup long-term and proposing my GF so my long term relationships are solid. It seems like a detour, but I'm hoping it'll make the start up doable the next time I try.

In your 30s, cherish each moment with your parents.

Especially true for immigrants. I visit my family annually. If my dad lives till a ripe old age of 80, then I'll only meet him 20 more times.

Pretty much everybody who knew anything about anything predicted Twitter will fail catastrophically very soon after

Did they ?

Twitter was well known for the being the most do-nothing company in big tech for some time before 2022. My friend (deliberately) joined there in 2021, and did zero work. I mean it. He wanted to start a startup, so he he built his own product full time and free-loaded as a Twitter employee. Yes, he likely would've been laid off even without Elon's interference, but any other org would've kicked him out within the first 2 months.

Twitter at it's first user peak (around 2015) had 3500 employees. In 2022, It had 7500 without any additional user acquisition. In 2024, it has 2800. Twitter was a bloated company in dire need of layoffs. Twitter was totally fine in 2015, and it's only down 20% employees from that period. Twitter's work life balance is well known to have gone to shit. If every employee is working 20% more time, the effective hours worked haven't changed much.

A lot of twitter projects were 'growth projects'. They were trying to expand to other markets, build new products and worked on optimization. All of these people got fired. Some deserved it, but many were already net-positives for the company from a revenue standpoint. Eg: 2% code improvement = $2 million saved for $400k spent on an engineer. That sort of thing.

Elon has separated the AI org out of twitter. XAI already has 100 employees, and will quickly scale up to a few hundred. It may not be counted as part of twitter, but pre-elon twitter was trying to do exactly this under their cortex [1] org.

I'm confident the allegations have legs. I'm just surprised that a foreign entity breaking foreign laws can be prosecuted in the US.

South Asia is super corrupt

You can't be a massive company in India, without massive bribery. Wonder why Adani is being specially targeted. Surely this kind of massive corruption is the norm in much of Africa & South Asia.

Under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), it is unlawful for a U.S. person or company to offer, pay, or promise to pay money or anything of value to any foreign official for the purpose of obtaining or retaining business.

The FCPA also covers foreign persons or companies that commit acts in furtherance of such bribery in the territory of the United States, as well as U.S. or foreign public companies listed on stock exchanges in the United States or which are required to file periodic reports with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Also covered by the FCPA is the authorization of any money, offer, gift, or promise authorizing the giving of anything of value to any person while knowing that all or a portion of it will be offered, given, or promised—directly or indirectly—to any foreign official for the purposes of assisting the U.S. person or company in obtaining or retaining business.

Adani group is run by Indian nationals, most of their assets are in India and they're listed on an Indian stock exchange (BSE). Still a little confused how it adds up to crime in the US.

So, American investors were victims of fraud because Adanis claimed that their business was above ground in investment rounds. Then used American investment dollars for bribes. That is a crime in the US ?

Do DOJ cases have anything to do with the outgoing Biden administration ? Or does it operate independently ? Modi is close to Trump, and I wonder if this is petty vindictiveness. I ask because a lot of recent anti-tech action and Ukraine military allocations seem to be angry 'fuck yous' from the out going administration.

Assuming you're taking a shower. In the shower.....

If no shower, changing clothes without flashing is a standard skill. Just need a towel.

If no towel. I'm fine seeing butt cheeks in my peripheral vision for a couple of seconds. But, don't stand there with your dick hanging out for ages. Get it done.

My eyes are burning. It's so graphic.

To what extent does whether or not the deal was good for the US depend on political positioning

The fullest extent possible.

A person's support for JCPOA depends on how they reason about America's unipolar superpower status. Ie. Is Pax Americana enforced primarily by carrot or stick ?

Stick Believer:

  • America became an economic behemoth through incomparable labor productivity.
  • Its commensurate military spend keeps every nation scared. So no sane country dares stir up the hornets nest.
  • Any country insane enough to believe otherwise faces the full might of American economic sanctions and military intervention.
  • The US beats these enemies down into submission, until they pick a subservient leader that bends the knee.
  • The US doesn't need anyone. As long as every other country is isolationist too, the US will win in a straight battle of brain or brawn.

Carrot Believer:

  • America was best positioned to leap-frog every nation post-WW2. It made good decisions, and ended up far ahead of everyone else
  • America maintains a moderate lead, but the conditions aren't as favorable as post-WW2
  • The free-market capitalist world created by the US is the most benevolent arrangement offered by any global superpower.
  • Join us and you will flourish. Hell, America may give you a little push to bring you up to speed.
  • America is confident in its own labor productivity. Pair that with consistent import of top talent & reserve currency status. The 3 will keep US rich forever.

Ideally, the carrot and the stick work together. But, they've increasingly divorced themselves from the other.

JCPOA was a carrot solution for a country that hadn't given into the stick since the 1990s. By 2016, the US had tried the stick with the whole middle east. Initial successes turned into embarrassing failures as these forever wars dragged on. At face value, JCPOA sounds like a good idea. But, the aforementioned divorce meant that America implements both the carrot and stick with a degree of naive optimism.


was it bad enough that withdrawing from it was a net positive for the US?

Yes, withdrawing was the correct solution.

Naive pro-stick optimism leads to forever wars, a drain on the economy, thorough destruction of the victim and development of perpetual hatred towards America. It's squalor but never a threat. On the other hand, Naive pro-carrot optimism is exploited by bad actors to turn themselves into credible threats towards the US. Pakistan exploited America's (and IMF's) naivety for decades, only to become the home for every one of America's most wanted. Obama was smart enough to withdraw support for Pakistan in his time, but chose wrong on Iran.

Now here's the thing. Iranians are scary smart. Iran is a civilizational state with real history. Its diplomats are among the world's best wordcels socialized to western-elite culture. This coaxes democrats into a false sense of security. Surely, these people (white & cultured) can be brought into Pax America without much friction.

Dead wrong ! The clergy hold a strong grip on Iran's power structures. Leadership of the global shia-aligned militia & (credible threat to) Israel are fundamental to maintaining that control. Against an increasingly militarized Israel, having nuclear weapons would've been an essential component of the clergy's politics.

Also, unlike Pakistan or Myanmar, Iran isn't a failed state. The lives of citizens aren't bad enough to trigger internal revolution or military coups. This means that a stick wasn't yet a 'last nail in the coffin'. On the other hand, unlike North Korea or Venezuela, this is a well-fed civilized society. So, if culture itself shifts then a peaceful transfer of power is a possible outcome. What does opening up to the US get you ? Liberalization and further power transfer to Tehran liberals ? Why would the clergy want that ?

The stick (withdrawing JCPOA and replacing it with crippling sanctions) was the right solution. You do not negotiate with a natural adversary. Especially when they're better talkers (liars) than you.

Post-2016, a bunch of (unforeseen?) geopolitical changes have vindicated the pro-stick faction. In 2016, Iran looked like a stable and non-radical middle-eastern Muslim nation. The rest of the middle east was rubble, mid-arab-spring or chain sawing journalists for sport. Yeah they hated Israel, but who in the middle east didn't. If anything, the shias were moderate.

Since then, 3 big changes happened:

  • Saudi Arabia's radical liberal shift has given the US the stable liberalization Islamic (not Islamist) nation it was looking for. So, Iran matters less.
  • Sunni Govt. hostility towards the West & Israel died down (Egypt, Saudi, Turkey), and Shia hostility picked up. The clergy are now further shoehorned into anti anti-America, anti-Israel position. There is no way Iran could've honestly engaged with JCPOA.
  • Post Oct 8th, Israel thoroughly dismantled Iran's Shia militia network. For Iran today, there isn't much global Shia leadership left to perform. This further weakens the Clergy's hold. It won't break the camel's back just yet. But, Khomeini could drop dead any day now, and that might just do it.

JCPOA withdrawl would have been a slam dunk, but geopolitical changes outside the middle east ruined it.

IMO, all American international policy should be structured towards counter balancing China. America has utterly failed here. The whiplash between Trump & Biden has given China space to plant its flag as an equal alternative to the US rather than a #2.

Trump alienated Europe, driving it away from the US. Then Biden kicked Russia out of all global markets. America's allies supposedly change based on who is elected. America's international policy uncertainty has allowed China to start filling in where the US has appeared flaky.

The Iran-Russia-China nexus has materialized outside America's sanctionable world. Europe, India and Africa have settled into neutral/opportunist policies instead of strongly aligning themselves to a temperamental USA. This means Chinese products (electronics, cars, software) are now competing directly with western offerings. Guess what, China's winning.

The US is still substantially ahead at #1, but their lead is fast crumbling. For now, USD as reserve currency is safe, as China failed to make Yuan happen. China's population bomb is about to explode and they fumbled their leading position in AI due to intense anti-Taiwan antagonism. See how these are all Chinese mistakes, not US wins.

That's the big question. How long can the USA keep banking on their enemies making unforced errors ?

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has said that the policy of the House is that women's restrooms are for women, and men's restrooms are for men

Why is this such an issue? Restrooms have stalls. I couldn't tell what gender was in one if I tried.

I hear that women tend to change & reveal more skin in women's locker rooms. In men's restrooms, we pretty much do their business and leave. From that perspective, the men's locker room is more 'gender neutral'.

Yes, it was a woke rallying-cry. But in 2024, it's become a tier-1 losing issue.

I've seen several prominent-ish democrat spokespeople openly blame transgender people for the 2024 presidential loss.

AOC is the democrat's weathervane. She's scarily opportunist and makes radical position changes right before a movement runs out of gas. She broke rank with the squad on Israel right before the campus protests turned ugly. She recently removed pronouns from her twitter bio. It's Joever.


As for people being naked in locker rooms, I'd be happy to see the practice die out. Trans people or not. I don't wanna be looking at random dick and balls. It's the old men who're the worst. Dude, don't spread your legs on the bench to clean your saggy balls, and what the fuck's up with being naked while having socks on !! Please No !

Best case outcome = Bluesky becomes a Tumblr replacement rather a twitter replacement.

Erstwhile twitter was louder, but boring. Tumblr was where the real stuff was cooked. Autistic wokes have been homeless since Tumblr collapsed, Twitter got taken over, Reels are brain-rotten (it's great) and tiktok has normiefied.

Worst case outcome = It's turns into a threads style bot-o-calypse.


I created an account to verify what you said. Damn it's bad. I avoided politics as a point of interest. I followed we mens wear guy. Still, it was all vacuous nonsense. /r/politics tier. As of now, it's surely headed towards bot-o-calypse.

Where did all the funny liberals go? There were plenty of them on pre-Trump Reddit. Say what you want, but 4chan autistic trans degenerates were funny as fuck too. Tumblr was good shit. Surely all these furries, twinks, trans girls etc. must be around somewhere. Hell, just the wierd porn artists (very left-tumblr coded) created enough engagement for 1 social platform just on their own.

Wonder if they all just grew up, and the woke-censorship era destroyed the pipeline for new degenerates to replace them. Maybe they're deep on Tiktok somewhere.

Therapy is inherently opinionated. I can't see an LLM offering any deep insights because deep insights are sharp and cutting. LLMs are soft.

But, They are good for Reddit tier sanity checks. "My parents used to beat me within an inch of my life. Is that abuse?"; Yeah, an LLM will help with that. But so will Reddit. LLMs can be especially useful here if it is too embarrassing to post even as an Anon.

Overall, It serves as a great 'intake specialist' and friend. Not so much therapist. Great resouce for intial direction and to riff off. Emotional or otherwise.

I wouldnt trust it past that point.

People hurt themselves with cars, knives, and guns all the time but we allow people to buy those in part because cars, knives, and guns are useful

Exactly, this is a bad idea.

Knives are safe enough, but guns and cars can lead to unintentional harm for both the user and onlookers. They should be regulated.

There can be 3 tiers: over-the-counter (free for all), needs based and testing based.


Pepper ball guns, tazers, and lowest caliber pistols can be over-the-counter. Wilderness communities can get needs-based allocation for larger guns. And hobbyists would have to take demanding tests to qualify for the wider selection.

Cars would come with speed limiters (80mph), limited acceleration (0-60mph 5 secs) and sales be limited to low-ground clearance vehicles of limited size. Tall vehicles like pickup trucks would be approved for those who need them. And those that want to go faster, must qualify for harder driving tests.

It seems excessive, but if you look at road & gun deaths in the US and it makes sense.

Third - you can take a blond hottie out of fox news, but you can never take fox news out of her

Megyn Kelly has done well to beat the 'blondes age badly' stereotype. Good for her.

Korean journalists - especially ones who know enough English to write for foreign journals like CNN and the NYT - are largely drawn from those upper-class women who went through college in the humanities and were radicalized on third-wave feminism.

Korean friend points out, Korean journalists frequently cite foreign (CNN, NYT, etc) articles about Korean gender wars to assert that these things are real, without thinking about the filter effect and the fact that the foreign journalists' friends are all upper-class English-speaking Koreans (i.e. filtered for feminists).

The resemblance to urban Indians is uncanny. Almost beat for beat.

  • Dads worked insanely hard to give kids a good life. Absent from home.
  • Moms over worked at home and ignored. Kids perceive dad as evil.
  • Women enter workforce en masse and start outperforming men because of affirmative action and strong preference for women in schooling.
  • Cities are bonkers expensive (Mumbai is more expensive per-sqft than SF)
  • Women enter liberal arts, and import western 3rd wave feminism whole sale
  • These women run all western MSM-aligned and portray men as trash
  • Indian men say fuck-this and live with their bros. Women ain't shit.
  • Eventually, 30+ men are married off to 30+ women in arranged marriages. Both lack co-ed socialization and have knee-jerk dislike for the other.
  • Divorce rates go through the roof.... (we are here right now)

Thankfully, there are a few main differences:

  • India is still poor. So wages haven't stagnated. There is still hope among men that their lives can be better than their parents. Optimism keeps defeatist incel-adjacent ideas sweeping the culture. (still, lots of Indian incels)
  • Indians are more outspoken. The culture is not as suffocatingly conformist as East Asia.
  • New cities are being built. So, while Delhi & Mumbai have become unaffordable, couples are moving to Hyd, Bangalore, Gurgaon, etc.
  • The majority is still rural. So, 3rd wave feminists haven't been able to quite takeover the culture like SK.
  • Lastly, other Indians speak English too. So, the voices of dissent are just as loud, even if western MSM won't platform them.

(Note: I am talking about upper middle class urban culture. Rural & Poor India is a very different world)

they do not expect sex to be enjoyable

I doubt that. Pagans have written books and created monuments to enjoyable sex.

essentially maidservants for their husbands' families

Nuclear families are the primary cause for this going away. England was admittedly the earliest nuclear society, and avoided this problem all together.

It's an underdiscussed aspect of single-core mega-urban countries like SK. More than half the country lives within commute distance of Seoul. So you can't build physical distance between you and the in-laws. Being a larger and distributed country helps mitigate this problem.

They don't really expect their husbands to love or even like them

Can't compare across different historic economic settings. But, women must be given opportunities. Opportunities to work, to choose their spouse, to leave their spouse, to choose a profession.

You don't have to imagine the scenario. That's how all of VC works.

Know-nothing angel investors will fund your pre-seed for 20% of your company. The best angel investors give you their money and fuck off. If you become a billionaire one day, that's exactly what you owe them. It's a standard contract. Similarly, marriage is the most common signed contract. One takes the lead on career, one takes the lead at home. If something goes wrong, we split ways 50-50. Bezos signed this contract, and had to pay out accordingly.

Both VC and Marriage, free you to take risks without devastating your life if you fail. It may not look like it, but Scott McKenzie invested in Jeff, and got paid for placing her faith in him when he was nobody.

How much of a debt do I owe the person who lent me their charger?

Did you sign a contract ?

Those Punjabis don't leave India.

Punjab used to be India's wealthiest state in the 80s, thanks for a booming agriculture sector. Then, they inflicted suicidally bad policy and a separatist insurgency onto themselves. Since then, Punjab hasn't recovered.

A minority that owns a lot of land, lives like kings back home. But Punjab never industrialized. So, small farms had no value and small farmers continued struggling. In contrast, the neighboring state of Haryana saw rapid urbanization, and small farmers there became mini-millionaires overnight. Haryanvis are culturally Punjabi, and sometimes identify as Punjabi in global circles.

When Indians talk about Punjabis, we mean the residents of the Indian state of Punjab. For comparison, Haryana is 5% Sikh, while Punjab is 60% Sikh. But, a global audience may not make that distinction.

Much of this racism comes from Indians themselves though. They often don't like Indians from certain parts of India or from certain castes. Many think we're letting in too many or the wrong kinds. There seems to be a lot of conflict between different groups.

Yes, but it has to do with 'class' more than 'caste' or 'regionalism'. You've correctly observed that there are 2 different clusters of Indian immigrants.

The upper-middle class of India slogs their ass off to get into real Canadian universities and qualify for real jobs. These people come from around the country. This is your standard meritocratic group, a high HDI cluster. Then, a sub-section of no-skilled youths are practically trafficked into Canada by exploiting every loop hole imaginable. These people can't speak English, don't have jobs when they arrive here and live in squalor. This subsection primarily hails from Punjab. This is low HDI cluster.

The high HDI cluster hates the low HDI cluster.

Canadian visa abuse is an open-secret in India. It's not just the high HDI immigrant cluster who shit on these people. The whole country does.

Damn, Post partum is rough. So easy for it to sneak in.

We humans really aren't made for nuclear existence huh. Can't imagine how women do it without a more traditionally-sized community.

Yeah. Nothing wrong with the Hare Krishnas from a strictly scriptural standpoint. It's their fervent expression of it & proselytization that creeps Indians out. Both feel alien to a native Indian.

It's because Indians have 2 pathways to come to the USA.

  1. high tier undergrad -> Masters -> FANG-ish job -> coastal T1 city -> upper middle / lower rich class dom.

  2. low tier undergrad -> Sweat shop consultancy-> H1b lottery spam -> T2/T3 American city -> temporary life of squalor to save a few dollars

The strong selection effects mean that your experience with an Indian in the US is likely to either either be quite positive (cracked FANG engineers) or quite negative (DGAF sweat shop workers).

Will the baby latch, will the latch hold, how to avoid painful latching, how to deal with chafing,

Doesn't pumping solve all 4 problems ?

When will the Dems learn? Coastal elites lose elections.

America only has 2 swingable regions that matter:

  1. The great lakes mega region [1]
    Includes Mich, Wisc & Eastern PA. All 3 states have swung together for decades.
  2. Southwestern Sun belt [2]
    This includes Arizona & Nevada. Both states are growing rapidly and have a massive (30+%) swingable Latino population. The tiny black population means that an alienated white populace + unenthusiastic Latino population will certainly lose you both states. They tend to swing together too. Both went Blue-senate, red-presidency this year.

AOC would be horrible for both these regions. AOC is young. No reason to force it. Show your wider appeal by becoming NY Governor. That's America's 4th most powerful elected position after President, CA Governor & Texas Governor. Big improvements to NY state should give her enough visibility and time to become a Presidential candidate.

But for the next decade, the democratic candidate must identify with one of the above 2 regions.

The 3 nationally recognized candidates from this region are:

  • Pete (Iowa)
  • Whitmer (Mich)
  • Kelly (Az)

Well, look at that. They are also the 3 most liked active democrats.

I am biased towards Pete because he's charismatic, doesn't treat republicans like idiots (has a solid fox news relationship) and is a pro-transit YIMBY. He is also Gay in a lowkey, pro-family way. I don't much about Whitmer. Kelly's dedicated husband + Top gun + Astronaut story is an incredible sell. If only he wasn't bald.

It's still very early, but among those who are more tuned in, how do people around you perceive these 3 politicians ?


Random insane stat:

In the last 50 years, every Republican president has been a coastal elite (Trump, Reagan, Bushes) and no Democratic president has been both coastal and elite (Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden).

They'll do what filthy rich billionaires did before them : Donate = Bribe = Lobby.

Now that Elon & Thiel are Texans, the state should offer them plenty of protection even after Trump goes away.

It seems she and her husband converted to Hinduism.

She was raised Hindu. You can't convert to Hinduism. No Indian would be able to explain what that even means. Pagans are flexible. The Indian "far-right" (RSS) routinely suggest that Indian minorities are religious chimeras, calling them Muslim-Hindus or Christian-Hindus. The data backs their claims. A majority of Indian Christians & Muslims believe in karma & a plurality believe in reincarnation. For Hindus, the lines between lines between culture & religion are blurry, with very few consensus beliefs.

Push comes to shove, I'd say Hinduism is about:

  • Karma (Actions have consequences)
  • Dharma (Sanctity of the duties you've signed up for + abiding by a personal moral code)
  • Rebirth till Moksha (Less worldly desires is better. Ends up as a general tree-hugger syndrome)
  • General neutrality of the divine. (The system exists for all. No special cut out for devout believers.)

Contrary to popular belief, vegetarianism & non-violence are relatively modern (20th century) ideas and part of Nehru/Gandhi's 20th century Vishwa-guru (teacher to the world) propaganda. Other than a small subsection of Brahmins & Jains (over-represented in the US diaspora), the rest don't put either idea on a pedestal.

All this to say, I'd caution against imposing Abrahamic models onto Pagan religions. American Hinduism is closer to ACX-Rationalism than the sort of conservative thought that is ascribed to India's rural Hindi heartland.


That aside, what's her reason for opposing gay marriage? I know Christians and Muslims have a scriptural disgust for it. I'd like to know where young Tulsi's strong opposition to it comes from.

One of my favorite topics. I'm an immigrant looking in from the outside. I have a large group of close friends in France. They serve as the perfect foil. The contrast between both nations is jarring.

Americans are insecure.

With French labor protection & welfare, losing your job is a mild inconvenience. Loans are harder to get, so you're rarely living beyond your means and less likely to default. If you're evicted, social housing is.....acceptable.

Americans have none of these fail safes. Long bouts of unemployment are catastrophic. Injuries, missed payments, divorces, pregnancies can ruin a person. Yet, culturally, Americans live beyond their means and maintain high debt burdens. The new worth number is deceptive, because most of it isn't liquid. A middle-aged person can't access value locked into houses, 401ks, 529s, HSAs or cars. For comparison, my French peers are buying studios worth <200k or just renting, while my American peers are buying ~$1M SFHs.

The lack of solid maternity-leave is a big stressor for women. There's a feeling that you need to make yourself indispensable before you first child. Only then can you take a long maternity-leave and later return where you left off. Otherwise, you're unemployable an maternity becomes financially ruinous.

In your head, you're 1 lay-off away from disaster. Ofc you'll work hard.

America isn't fun.

The alternative to work is fun. While both countries take weekends off, French work-life-balance shines during the weekdays. Americans leave a couple of hours later, and that makes all the difference.

Density, walkability & having things to do means that weekday evenings don't have to suck. In comparison, most American cities are asleep by 8.30pm on weekdays. Without transit, that extra drive is excruciating and the distance between you and your friends means that finding a common location is hard. My French friends haven't splintered nearly as much as my American friends when they purchase SFHs. There is tie-in to American's lack of 3rd places as well.

Small corollary: Americans live further away from their parents. Some of it is urban design, some of it is the size of the country. But, the TGV allows my French friends to do a quick visit to their family within 2-ish hours. I can't explain just how relaxing these train rides are. They're nothing like a grueling 2hr drive. This means that French people can more easily pull off a weekday all-nighter with family than Americans.

Dependent kids = dependent parents

Finally, you have kids. American kids are famously dependent. Parents timings revolve around pickup-hours. After school & daycare end around 6.30 pm. Since parents pick kids up on the way, getting there earlier doesn't make sense.


Yes, I've overlooked that French people take all of July off. But that's irrelevant. The day to day stress felt during the other 11 months is what really matters.

All this being said, it's only half the story. American culture explains the rest. In the US, you are what you make of yourself. Work defines your social worth. People self-sort among cliques with uniform class within them. Ofc, American districting plays an explicit role in this. My French groups are more fluid. In America, the culture teaches you the sanctity of work.

Yes, Americans love their work. They definitely do. But, they're also supposed to.