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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 11, 2024

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Anti-Indian sentiment, pajeet being mainstream and dating patterns

There has been a hockey stick like growth in terms of anti Indian sentiment online where people use the word pajeet (or jeet) for people of ancestry from the Indian subcontinent, pajeeta if you are female. Likely coined on 4chan to target sikhs who like telugus have been notorious for doing whatever it takes to get out of the country and bringing their cousins aling too, many of thier names end the suffix jeet, hence the ethnic slur "Pajeet". 2 years ago NDTV, a mainstream English speaking Indian news channel did a program about the usage of the word pajeet and how it shot up, I remember that because I was a niche microcelebe and a lot of my mutuals started using the word pajeet to describe other Indians who behaved like the stereotype, at that time the sentinemtn towards Indians on twitter was not as bad lol.

Here is Charleston White partaking in hitting the new pinata in town. In the online circles, the name has been adopted by some who use it to describe a large number of people who unfortunately fit the negative stereotypes. Due to extreme amounts of poverty and a large number of people where the HBD balance is skewed heavily due to various subclans and well things you are legally not supposed to talk about. The stereotype describes the person being smelly, extremely dishonest, high amounts of nepotism and being overall unattractive due to being skinny fat, short and dark. Most Indians absolutely do fuck others over, especially others of their own kind, scam call centres scammed my dad's colleague out of 50k USD and tried to get my own dad thrice. I simply wish to know how this seemed to have happened, the rise against an entire subcontinent overnight did take me by surprise.

My own experiences are not the same as firstly all the euros or non-Indians I met were tourists or digital nomads, most probably thought I was Jewish or Arabic or something since I am slightly different looking. This is to say that I did not encounter any racism that others of my ilk probably faced. My travels have been very limited to just Southeast Asia too, I would suspect that it is more hostile on the internet than irl. The subcontinent certainly has all the issues mentioned here and more though the people who migrate without indulging in out-and-out fraud are not this way at all. More than half the people migrate via various dishonest tactics but a very large number is of genuinely talented people who are likely suffering from being bunched together with others. It is as if you can just call Indians or Jews names online and you will go viral, is it because quite a few people from both ethnicities are high on the totem poll now that bioleninism is purity cycling where you could only say stuff against Caucasians and East Asians before.

One theory I have is that due to a lot of Incels online being Indian and the sharp growth of internet usage in India thanks to super cheap data, the vast majority of them being people who fit the stereotypes. There are plenty of Indians who just are not like the stereotype while many absolutely do fit it due to a combination of poverty, culture, and maybe genetics, I do have a soft spot for those who migrated out and have to be associated with the bottom of the barrel people at home and border jumping swindlers in the west.

Incel forums and looksmaxxing becoming more mainstream plays a big part too. Most would use the term currycel for self-description with ricecel being for east asians. The oxford study results paint a grim picture for East Asians where it states that women of east asia are more likely to prefer dating people of other races with whites being highest rated, I would argue that the subcontinent and south-east Asia has the similar issues. Posters on incel forums would self-deprecate quite heavily, whilst I mention the shortcomings of people here sometimes, it is never me saying stuff like ethnic tax. Quite a lot of the info you see out there did come from these forums.

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In Thailand the nightclubs with tourists were basically tourists and Thai girls, barely any Thai dudes at all, you most only see mixed-race couples where the guy was non-Thai and the woman wasn't. These are taboo topics you cannot discuss that incels brought up on various forums. They would always cite Elliot Rodgers the supreme gentleman as an example of why this mating strategy would be worse for Hapas (half-east Asians). Sort of a tangent here but I never did see this being brought up. I never had an issue with interacting with girls of any race in nightclubs, during my extremely short time in SEA I nearly exclusively spoke with girls from my region, a few Arabics (Christians somehow, every time) and mostly Euros. Is the whole race and dating thing really that fucked? thought I would say that Eastern Asian and South-east asian women, in general, were super receptive, way way more than any I had ever met, I never went home with one or anything but it did feel odd how me not being East/Southeast Asian was a positive in their eyes. Anyhow, apologies for the long meandering post, I had something happen yesterday that did scare me lol.

I haven't really noticed it online, but I have noticed it in person. I live in a city that has received an enormous number of immigrants in a very short period of time, and they seem to be overwhelmingly from India, although some are from Africa and the Ukraine. This is a Canadian city that has not had much immigration since confederation. It used to be very white, with a small black population, a small indigenous population, and a very small population from elsewhere. The few Indian people we had tended to be very highly educated.

Very little changed here for a long time but it's now undergoing a rapid transformation. The population is booming, high rises are going up everywhere, rents are rapidly outgrowing incomes, and traffic congestion is getting really bad. People are blaming the immigrants, and Indians, with their dark complexions and jet black hair, really stand out. It seems like half the population dowtown is Indian now.

The other really visible change is that seemingly most low-skilled customer-facing jobs are now done by Indians. Almost every grocery store employee, Uber Eats driver, security guard, fast food restaurant worker, and call centre worker is Indian.

They're not really causing any serious problems, but there's beginning to be a bit of a backlash. People blame them for the high rents, and there is a belief that they're taking jobs better suited for teenagers when what we really need are doctors and tradesmen. This a very left-wing city with a strong norm against racism and I personally never witnessed much racism until recently, but a minority of people are starting to feel comfortable saying negative things about them and saying they should go back to India.

Much of this racism comes from Indians themselves though. They often don't like Indians from certain parts of India or from certain castes. Many think we're letting in too many or the wrong kinds. There seems to be a lot of conflict between different groups.

Much of this racism comes from Indians themselves though. They often don't like Indians from certain parts of India or from certain castes. Many think we're letting in too many or the wrong kinds. There seems to be a lot of conflict between different groups.

Yes, but it has to do with 'class' more than 'caste' or 'regionalism'. You've correctly observed that there are 2 different clusters of Indian immigrants.

The upper-middle class of India slogs their ass off to get into real Canadian universities and qualify for real jobs. These people come from around the country. This is your standard meritocratic group, a high HDI cluster. Then, a sub-section of no-skilled youths are practically trafficked into Canada by exploiting every loop hole imaginable. These people can't speak English, don't have jobs when they arrive here and live in squalor. This subsection primarily hails from Punjab. This is low HDI cluster.

The high HDI cluster hates the low HDI cluster.

Canadian visa abuse is an open-secret in India. It's not just the high HDI immigrant cluster who shit on these people. The whole country does.

I've heard Punjabis are wealthy because they own a lot of farmland.

Those Punjabis don't leave India.

Punjab used to be India's wealthiest state in the 80s, thanks for a booming agriculture sector. Then, they inflicted suicidally bad policy and a separatist insurgency onto themselves. Since then, Punjab hasn't recovered.

A minority that owns a lot of land, lives like kings back home. But Punjab never industrialized. So, small farms had no value and small farmers continued struggling. In contrast, the neighboring state of Haryana saw rapid urbanization, and small farmers there became mini-millionaires overnight. Haryanvis are culturally Punjabi, and sometimes identify as Punjabi in global circles.

When Indians talk about Punjabis, we mean the residents of the Indian state of Punjab. For comparison, Haryana is 5% Sikh, while Punjab is 60% Sikh. But, a global audience may not make that distinction.