FearandLoathingintheMotte
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FearandLoathingintheMotte
10d ago
The PoE stuff linked below.
Everything about Doge?
Constantly lying about Tesla stuff.
Idk man, if you genuinely think that every single thing Elon has done is actually a 4d chess move then we're just gonna yell at each other.
Like I can go google/AI "dumb stuff Elon has done or said that didn't help his stayed goals and preferences" and cobble together a list and then you can pick them all apart. But that seems silly.
I don't even dislike Elon, I think making electric cars cool and making rockets cheap are fantastic achievements that earned him his place in history. But my god he's retarded sometimes.
Why did he do the sperg salute?
Elon Musk is clearly very smart and he's also such a retard. Both can be true at once lol.
My friends frequently describe me as the "stupidest smart person they know" , so I relate to this
I'm not humble bragging or comparing myself to Elon, I doubt I have his level of engineering IQ or grind, I just observe he says stupid shit that makes it harder for him to achieve his goals a lot
FearandLoathingintheMotte
11d ago
I'm in full agreement that free AI is shit and it's giving everyone a bad impression
I'm just bored of people pointing that out like it's a novel observation.
We know it's shitty, everyone on this website knows this
I agree that the free AI samples are trash, I just think once we're all operating at the meta-level of understanding this, repeatedly pointing this out is a pointless exercise. Like congratulations, you have successfully noticed that something that is obviously low quality is low quality. Are the AI labs dumb for letting this pollute their brand/the overall "brand" of AI? Yes.
It's like mild "boo outgroup" posting but the outgroup is free shitty AI models
If people repeatedly went to McDonald's to make effort posts about how bigmacs are trash compared to their local favorite smashburger place, I'd have the same opinion.
It's also mildly funny to me that ~4 years ago AI was primarily used to make me laugh in /r/subreddit_simulator with shit tier Markov chains/GPT-2 and now we're mocking an AI model so cheap it can be served for free missed a decimal but otherwise was able to instantly answer a question with live information. In your food examples, yeah they're failing QC, but the food failing QC is significantly better than the failed QC food 4 years ago, the QC bar is a few orders of magnitude higher, and overall quality is skyrocketing year over year.
FearandLoathingintheMotte
12d ago
That's interesting. I obviously don't have omniscient memory, so I could have pushed back my timeline.
But I remember having to switch to appending "Reddit" to every search query when I was in college, so that puts it right around COVID when quality started to decline enough to be motivated to do that
FearandLoathingintheMotte
13d ago
I agree that backyards are incredibly elite, but how do you solve traffic from the ever increasing urban sprawl? Especially considering the ever increasing urbanization and demand to live in megacities that have all the economic growth
FearandLoathingintheMotte
13d ago
I'm not going to pretend that AI can write better than a human, it can't. But sir, this is absolutely insane lmao
If only there was a worldwide network where domain experts could share concise answers to a variety of questions. And if only there was some sort of engine that let people search this network to find the answers they are looking for.
I don't understand how you're the SEO-defence force. Google was bad in the late 201X years and rapidly becoming fucking unusable 2020-2022. I was looking into paid search services by the time ChatGPT dropped because the SEO slop farmers were mogging google hard. But now, much like how people are rallying behind Uber drivers who might lose their jobs to Waymo (I thought we were mad at Uber drivers from taking the "good taxi jobs" even through we all hated cabbies before Uber) you have reflexively started taking positions against the thing you don't like, even if that position is saying "no no SEO slop google was actually totally fine"
FearandLoathingintheMotte
13d ago
Gemini is so bad. It's actually kind of mind-blowing how hard google fell off this year.
I haven't had a chance to catch up on the podcasts about it, but sounds like they did a massive AI shakeup last week
FearandLoathingintheMotte
13d ago
"I've heard all about these Chinese cars totally upending the global auto market and I'm told they're absolutely mogging the established auto players in basically every non Western country, so to investigate I test drove a 2003 BYD Flyer and it sucked balls, so clearly this is all fake news"
What's funny is I actually agree with your thesis. I think that the various free/quantized models that normies largely interact with (most notably, google search and copilot) have totally given everyone a terrible impression.
But this style of the motte investigative reporting is just ... Lmao
FearandLoathingintheMotte
13d ago
This is true and I'm currently doing a project that has ABSURD unavoidable token read/write overhead (I'm processing ~300 cookbooks) and it takes 100 millions of tokens per book to ensure a reasonable level of accuracy.
So I'm basically stuck with subscription subsidized tokens, but Codex only serves the most recent models. I'd absolutely kill for a gpt-5 full size at low cost, but they don't offer the big old models at low cost (presumably bc expensive to run, but they're still much smaller than the base model of 5.5+) and Luna, while now gloriously cheap, is just so fucking stupid and myopic.
I could do this project with a 2 year old LLM most likely, it's just so deeply unergononic
FearandLoathingintheMotte
15d ago
we did it for cheap.
I'm surprised to find myself agreeing with much of what you're saying, but I'm curious as to your definition of cheap.
As it stands, it's looking like the US military expended:
- Nearly 100% of ATACMS and PrSM
- 50% of tomahawks
- Somewhere in the ballpark of 50% of interceptors
- A disgusting % of exquisite cruise missiles (blanking on this stat)
- Lord knows how many airframe hours
- Whatever the cost of all the other shit that got blown up in bases
- All the drawdowns of the strategic oil reserve
Now this war has been profoundly cheap in terms of servicemembers' lives, praise be
I also am not getting into the cost of the political capital expended, both domestically and abroad, as those are hard to measure without hindsight and so can be left to argue about after the midterms lol
But it's materially degraded the stocks of offensive and defensive effectors in a way that is quite bad for a pending great power conflict against a heavily industrialized foe (rhymes with Carolina).
Was the war cheap in an absolute sense/in a vacuum? Maybe, perhaps even probably. Was the war, from an opportunity cost perspective, cheap? Less likely, and if China decides to get spicy in the SCS in the next 5 years, that becomes a resounding "no"
FearandLoathingintheMotte
21d ago
There are some... impressively degenerate mods for the Total Warhammer games, and I don't just mean for the Slaanesh factions.
You can't hint at lewd mods for fucking Total War (LMAO) and not at least link to one
I just want to say that I deeply respect how the mods actually stick around to litigate their actions (which are always unpopular to some subset of people) and provide rationale/further explanation/snarky responses instead of just acting in the shadows and refusing to elaborate, or handing out extra bans for questioning them
To answer on your preferred scale: I initially thought this was about a 5/10, a Mussolini-tier moderator action. But after reading your responses, I’m fairly convinced and would downgrade it to a 2/10 Salazar. I don’t totally agree with the decision, but I appreciate that someone is keeping the budget balanced.
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
The current metagame of '65 then a decade or two of meandering cruises until eventually you roll a Natural 1 and hit the final 3 year slope of increasing disability but massive medical expense
This is poetry
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Phelbas might be my favorite and I've genuinely read all of them. Games/weapons other two favs. Found the rest interesting but not inspired to read again unlike the prior 3 which I've read a few times each
What are your favorite culture books?
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Games/weapons/phelbas are by far the best 3.
I think he's genuine and correct. The culture is by far the best outcome for humanity and also sucks for its own reasons.
But those reasons are literally just the human condition at the end of the day "wahhh I fuck 10/10 models constantly and go lava surfing so much it's boring. What does it all meannnnn."
> inb4 "but the AI runs everything and we have no power/are basically glorified pets"
You have essentially 0 power ovwr the institutions that run your life today. The government of your respective locality could largely be replaced by a benevolent AI and you'd have no idea, in fact your government would probably get much more competent. I don't really see how it's different. If the CIA wanted to fuck my shit up tomorrow they could. Hell, a few years ago all it took was an angry mob on Twitter.
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Wow we have the exact same tastes I don't even need to write my comment. I wouldn't have put lifted pickups (but they are dumb) but delivery when you live in a downtown city and cruises were my first two answers
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Why do you think the west is legalizing weed?
Because policing it is retarded?
But yeah the soma aspect isn't a downside
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
On a similar note, I am extremely curious to see how the Native American Government Funding Extraction Industrial Complex in Canada is doing in about 10 years.
They're absolutely raking in settlement, etc cash right now.
But once Canada is ~50% Indian, I'm curious how that will play.
Sandeep et al have a pretty good argument for why they shouldn't have their tax dollars paying to endlessly rebuild water treatment plants in rural Canada, they were being oppressed by the British at the same time the Indigenous people were!
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Oh neat I didn't know that - thanks for sharing
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Wait sorry can you please explain this further? I would have 100% assumed the opposite result from expressing those two opinions.
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
People lasted longer then, among the heroes it wouldn't be unusual for her to still be beautiful and fertile at 40 or 50
What is the mechanism of action here? They didn't have sunscreen or dentists
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
Did he have a child bride, knock her up then go off to war?
.... Based? I weep for what we have lost
FearandLoathingintheMotte
29d ago
You are correct but the majority of poor people aren't criminals and do actually provide goods and services to the economy, while also purchasing other goods and services.
On the balance of the odds, a "little ghetto baby" will be a net positive impact on society, in that they're a human who will have relationships, experience joy, and be a semi-productive economic net gain
I really regret not putting
In my original post, have a nice day sir, we don't need to bicker over Mr Musk
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