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Right wing Americans in the 1700s to early 2000s: "I hate the government, I don't trust the government, cops are tools of the state to tread on my freedoms"

Right wing Americans in the 2020s: "should the state freeze all your assets and cut off your power when you have not been convicted of a crime and haven't even had your Miranda rights read to you yet?"

How the mighty have fallen...

That makes sense to me.

My guess here is more based on contemporary cultural narratives and vibes shaping perceptions vs actual history

Without knowing much of the Inuit or Greenland's colonial history, something tells me a group of North American indigenous people probably wouldn't be willing to consent to US government rule. There's a bit of history there.

But in this case it would be the "other side" celebrating her death no?

Jay Jones is a Dem, and anyone who's happy this lady was iced (hah) is presumably republican.

record scratch

You're probably wondering how I got into this situation

Yeah this tracks

Sorry, do you mind elaborating what you're talking about for the peanut gallery?

What is WhiningCoil right about? Are they pro or anti ICE?

I'm not angling for anyone to be banned (why would anyone be banned is another question I have) but this interaction has flown right over my head

That sounds very plausible

I don't understand how you couldn't think anything of "this man I met on the gay sex app wants to meet in a bathroom after previously asking if I wanted to have sex in the woods"

But thankfully, this isn't my job to understand, I just get to be amused by this incredible story.

It does seem quite plausible he didn't want to engage in sex that day with Dr. Stefan. That's a wise and rational move for many reasons.

But if you are chatting to a man on Grindr, by far the most "hookup" of all hookup apps, and you agree to meet a man who you met on Grindr (who had already asked if you wanted to fuck in the woods!) in a BATHROOM, I genuinely don't know what to expect.

"he had thought that perhaps in wanting to meet at the toilets, Dr Stefan had wanted to stay hygienic and maybe wanted to wash his hands or for Mr A to wash his hands. "

I can't even begin to attempt to explain this logically. Why would you need to meet up to mutually wash your hands? If anyone needed to wash their hands, couldn't they just do that before? If washing your hands before a coffee date is important to you, just do that? Has anyone ever said "hey I know we're chatting over coffees and not touching, but it's really really important to me that I know your hands are washed"

Similarly, back to the bathroom, why not just meet for a coffee in the place where coffee is (the cafeteria, a nearby cafe)? Why on earth would you detour to a bathroom with a man you just met on Grindr? No one could be this oblivious. I'm not gay and I know for a fact if a gay man invited me to a bathroom, it's because he wants to fuck me. If I was talking to a girl on ChristianMingle.com and she asked me to meet her in a bathroom, my first thought would not be "damn she must love washing her hands".

I genuinely meant all of this, in all seriousness, I have no idea how "yes kids are annoying but no you can't neglect them as a result" is bait

Oh I see what you mean. No disagreement there

What's stopping him from letting his kids be free range ? The restrictions feel self-imposed.

Zvi just did a post on this, was pretty crazy. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/childhood-and-education-16-letting

My dream is to have kids, then spend most of my time hanging out at some old school mens' social club talking business over cigars and brandy, seeing the kids only briefly for the big events.

Hypothetical future college seniors will absolutely love your hypothetical future freshman daughters with daddy issues, Jesus Christ.

"I want my children to grow up with attachment issues"

Have some respect for your children and their wellbeing.

Isn't the answer "this is obviously true and you have no soul" ?

Small children are frequently annoying, and frequently not very stimulating. Sometimes they are interesting and stimulating, but anyone pretending that is common is biased.

On the other side, spending quality time with your children isn't optional, and to complain that the life you brought into the world, with the full knowledge that kids are attention black holes, is stupid? And cruel, and soulless.

If you hate kids, don't have them. If you have kids, give them attention so they don't develop attachment issues, even if that's annoying. Complaining about it just makes you sound stupid or evil.

A few thoughts

Not expressing these thoughts, or better, working to shift them, will make getting a wife much easier. Women aren't woo'd by "if we have kids I have no interest in minding them until they don't bore me, that's on you"

If a kid wants to hang out with me, it's okay, but I'm not going to actively engage.

If you have children, I hope you show them slightly more interest than this, so they don't develop textbook daddy issues. That being said, kids want literally nothing more than their parents attention 24/7, so you won't have to worry about this, they'll find you!

I could be coerced into kid minding duty

I get it logically, but I really would hope you'd have more respect for your biological offspring. They need your minding for healthy development. It's like when my friends were younger and would say "I'll never change a diaper, my wife can come handle that when she's free" and my response, after making jokes about the inevitable divorce, was "even if you think it's gross, you should respect your infant child enough to not want them simmering in their own shit for any longer than necessary"

That time is worth maximizing.

You will receive very little of this time if your kid, after a decade+ of living with you, correctly deduces you are not interested in them and thus resents you.

Love your kids! Spend time with them, if not for your sake, than for theirs.

Babies, much like tech platforms, have close to 0 marginal cost and scale nearly infinitely

Now that's American innovation

I just posted a similar comment above, but I'm so confused by how quickly these discussions escalate.

I'm pretty sure oral sex has been happening for all of human history. It's so normal. It's not very invasive. No tissues get damaged.

The porn-enabled proliferation of anal is definitely weird and unfortunate. But to include it in the same paragraph as oral sex is just so strange to me. It's such a massive escalation from oral sex in terms of risk and discomfort I don't really see how they can be compared.

Especially because I do not believe for a second that oral sex was rare until the 90s or whatever when hardcore video porn started seriously proliferating throughout society.

It has become an accepted social reality that average women will happily suck dick, swallow cum, do gangbangs online for the money, and it’s all normal, because it’s not like they are doing anything objectionable or whatever.

This doesn't strike me as true at all. But let's be more precise.

suck dick

I would consider oral sex to be an entirely normal part of mature human relationships. I'm also pretty confident that's been a staple of human relationships since we evolved genitals and mouthes. This is incredibly normal and has been forever.

swallow cum

This is part and parcel with sucking dick, and also very normal? I don't have strong feelings here but it's kind of a natural outcome of sucking dick, again, this has been happening for 10,000s of years, very normal.

do gangbangs online for the money

Literally no one thinks this is normal? Anyone who does gangbangs online for money immediately loses nearly all of their dating status (yes, simps and sexual deviants who are fine with this exist, but they're rare).

I'm very confident that no woman I know would be willing to do this. And I'm very confident that every man I know would be unwilling to date a woman who had done this. I'm also confident most women I know wouldn't be willing to date a man who did this. This is wildly not normal.

If there's no liquidity there's no market, regardless of accuracy

Great points

It's also bad because markets require liquidity and people (rationally) don't want to trade in markets in which they know they are at a significant information disadvantage

Allowing insider trading will reduce liquidity profoundly.

Prediction markets are going to be a very interesting space to watch for this. There, insider trading has the best argument, as it helps the market find the truth. But will people continue to participate in prediction markets if they know there are good odds they're going against sophisticated insiders? Time will tell.

There seems to be a lot of projecting of people's vaguely similar hobby horses going on.

Welcome to the Motte the internet the human race

While I think your argument largely makes sense, I would choose being called a "faggot" over being punched hard in the stomach 1000 times out of 1000

Like it's not even a question I have to think about, the answer is so obvious.

I think it is a good yardstick. That sounds like almost every communist country has been a dysfunctional mess that couldn't achieve its stated aims.

Perhaps (very likely), their stated aims simply aren't possible.

Are lawyers, doctors, dentists, accountants, and architects in the developed world communist because the workers sometimes own the firms?

This is kind of a snappy point that I don't really understand, the answer is obviously no.

I'm happy to admit that this is something I don't know a ton about (hence commenting, to learn more). But just because a doctor, etc captures most of the value of their labour doesn't make them a communist, as that is a political/economic system. As I understand it, the goal of communism is so that every worker is able to capture their surplus value as well as a doctor does.