FeepingCreature
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I feel like, when you're talking about quadrillions of beings, our existing reasoning breaks down. That is assuming race is still going to be relevant post-singularity, which is at least highly questionable. I think skin color is going to go the way of rare dyes, where rarity used to signal social standing, but now that anyone can trivially have any dye in near any number, it's relegated entirely to aesthetic preference. - What else is there? IQ? Personal choice. Conscientiousness? Personal choice. Neuroticism? Habits? All, all, editable.
In the future, there will be a million times more white-people descendants, a million times more black-people descendants. There will be cross-blending, customization, randomization, de novo species. There will be telepaths, hiveminds, superintelligences, copyclans, and weirder things that we cannot even imagine now. I don't have an answer for you - but I'll eat my hat if the predominant moral question as we approach the physical Malthusian limit will be one of race.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
It's just an overload of the term "expect". It's not that we "expect", in the sense of having a social demand, that good programmers will be obsessive and do their profession as a hobby, it's that we "expect", in the sense of anticipated experience, that programmers won't be good unless it also happens to be the case that they're obsessive and do their profession as a hobby.
Of course, that instantly turns it into a signalling mechanism and Goodhart's it to death. But in spaces where there's less pressure on quality, the pattern is still observable.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Sure, but just bt and q already gets you 50% of the benefit.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Yeah, pretty much. Germans want the US occupation out. It's pretty widespread
To be clear, this is "a slight majority of Germans approve of US forces leaving". "Germans want the US occupation out" makes it sound like people have strong feelings about this, which is not, I believe, in evidence. Broadly, it's simply not a concern on a level that sways elections.
Re that interview, I might be misunderstanding Haig but I don't really read it as military coercion so much as quid pro quo. And as the interview continues, this is made clearer.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
What got me started on programming was fractals. To this day, I greet every new language I learn with a Mandelbrot renderer. But I believe there needs to be a hook. For me, it was pretty pictures. That got me into graphics, OpenGL, raytracing, and I learnt programming almost as a side effect. For other people it will be other things. But there needs to be a thing that you want to make the computer do. That empowering cycle, of "I speak the magic incantation and then the machine does my bidding," is what drives motivation, and motivation is the primary factor of learning programming.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I also have the experience that I am incapable of remembering things that are not applicable.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
my only runtime error messages were just segmentation fault.
gdb --args !!
You can even set the SIGSEGV handler to automatically attach gdb to the running program.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Okay but garbage collection is better than reference counting for performance though, and reference counting is better than manual for sanity, certainly so when you're writing trees.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I have to say I agree that the parent comment was "asking for it" in this case. It doesn't read as genuine misunderstanding but as cutesy gotcha masqueraded by thinly feigned incomprehension.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
The part of my brain that handles finances is not on speaking terms with the one that handles forecasts.
Besides, I should always bet against the singularity. No way to lose, really.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
our only actual hope for salvation: our children.
I for one am expecting a technological singularity in a few years.
Is he upset that Karlin is choosing Russian nationalism over Cosmism in general? Or is it only because the cause itself is lost and counter-productive to Russian nationalism?
I think it's a sentiment of "damn it, you had it! you had the right view!"
"Would you be OK with 100% of Europe being replaced by Africans, if all of the Africans were Christians?"
Are Christians Christianity-maximizers? I'm genuinely not sure the religion leads to that conclusion.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I think they see the immediate round of the game and their actions as influencing only or primarily the outcomes of that round, yes.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
digg and tumblr died because, as in the meme, they shoved a stick in their own spokes. There needs to be alternative stuff available, but there is also often a sudden shock: with digg the atrocious frontpage redesign, with tumblr the porn ban. (With LessWrong the end of Eliezer's posts...)
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
those who thought like you are long dead
This does not match my experience. At the least, like you yourself said, the vision is fundamentally Christian - so it's hard to argue that universal resurrection and ascension into eternal paradise has no ideological staying power.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I think there's simply widespread disagreement about the validity and brand of used game theory. Some people really do conceptualize their behavior with causal decision theories and some with timeless/functional kinds.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Once you notice a coincidence, you become sensitized for further coincidences in the same class.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I think this is an overly restrictive reading. A communist still accepts that capitalism exists. Likewise, a libertarian may accept as a matter of fact that state regulation exists. Then starting from that position, the libertarian may have an opinion on what manner of adjustment to that regulation makes the system more free, or less free, even in a libertarian sense.
The domain of opinion of a political system is not limited to a complete instantiation of that system - and well so, because otherwise it would be impossible to reshape society to your wishes. You have to be able to target smaller steps than complete instantaneous replacement.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I'm sorry... Nyans? XD Is there a meme behind that or is it just that they sound similar? I have to know!
I think it's that the pro-Ukraine position has broad support but is also new enough that politicians have not yet figured out how it's sliced. It's less that 70% are for supporting Ukraine, and probably more that parties are uncomfortable with how many people in their own electorate support Ukraine. There's no "common knowledge" that any party's votership is pro-Ukraine or anti-Ukraine.
If 70% of people want a product with feature A, and 22% want a product with feature B, then 100% of products will have feature A unless a company can figure out how to target the B market segment reliably. (Preferably both at once, of course.)
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Eh. I think there's a spectrum. The German government is trying to avoid paying the cost of supporting Ukraine as much as possible, because that cost will be internally unpalatable. That doesn't translate to rapprochment with Russia, which is broadly a domestic nonstarter.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
I mean, I don't know if that's the case, but conversely maybe the poster is only there because their ancestors stayed within the same ten mile radius for the past four generations doing roughly the same job handed down the family line. Even if not, certainly people like that exist; are their preferences invalid?
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
commonly, historically and almost necessarily any virus allowed to replicate freely would turn less deadly with time since killing hosts is not conducive to spreading rapidly
Layman: This is true on average, but viruses have avenues to become more deadly without hurting spread. For instance, Long Covid does not penalize the coronavirus at all, because it happens after it has already propagated. Anyways, viruses can become more deadly and spread worse, then they just ... spread worse. They can still spread for other reasons, for instance immune escape.
Regardless, it's important to keep in mind that viruses are never selected for killing the host, it just happens as a side effect that sometimes (short incubation) has pressure to avoid it. All the killing that viruses do is coincidence to begin with. That's one reason why viruses may become more deadly, because it's a random walk to begin with.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
It's possible that we acquired the punishment adaptation to maximize the deterrence fitness.
FeepingCreature
3yr ago
Might it just be that your aesthetic preference is different? Ie. you're judging the outcome by your own aesthetics rather than by the badness with which parent would perceive the outcome in this case?
Eh, agree-disagree. It could be that many things have objective answers that are just very hard to figure out. I think a lot of people arguing here act under the premise that they can convince people, which only works if they're right and others are wrong.
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