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Reports now on CNN, Iran is denying that there are talks.
Which, who knows, we could even have a situation where talks are going on but communication within the Iranian government has broken down.
A sudden face-heel turn on Israel is a significantly larger action than anything you've seen in the paper up until now.
Betrayal is the most difficult move to execute in a democracy, because the people who support the betrayal rarely trust you afterward. The anti-war caucus will not trust Trump after he flips on Israel, while the zionist contingent will be demoralized and may stay home.
It's not really possible to fully model something like this because it's basically never happened before. The closest I can think of is maybe LBJ on civil rights, or HW Bush on taxes? But even those weren't nearly as clear value betrayals as this would be.
Such an action, while hilarious, probably dooms Republicans in the midterms to such an extent that it would be unlikely for Trump to actually try it.
Bear in mind there's a lot of propaganda flying around right now. All different sides seem to be spinning every event in the most climactic, dramatic way possible. So we have to be careful to separate fact from rumors and threats.
To be clear, this is a direct quote from the President of the United State:
If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
There is no connection drawn between Iranian infrastructure attacks and American attacks on Iranian power plants, only between Iranian threats against shipping and American "obliteration" of Iranian power plants.
This is directly from the President of the United States, who by all reliable sources runs his own Truth social account. I don't understand how one can support the American war effort, and then say that to understand it you have to credit some statements by the POTUS, SoW, SoS; and discount others.
On the other hand, fifteen minutes ago as of this writing.
Good news everyone:
I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP [sic]
We'll have to see how the markets open on this news.
I'm pointing out that "marked unconcern for legal niceties" isn't really accurate,
How is it inaccurate to say that the US is unconcerned with legal niceties when the Secretary of War has made a career out of criticizing prior war efforts for their adherence to legal niceties? When the SoW has repeatedly made public statements that they are focused on "maximum lethality, not tepid legality?" When the stated intention has been from the beginning to open up rules of engagement based on legal niceties?
Look bro, you seem to want to be the woke police about people not being rah rah enough for the war, in future consider all my comments about the American war effort to contain the Politically Correct Disclaimer:
THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN IS AN EVIL REGIME THAT DOES EVIL THINGS, AND WE SHOULD NOT FORGET HOW EVIL THEY ARE
Then maybe you won't feel the need to play whataboutism in a discussion of the United States' openly avowed policies. Iran is evil, sure, that doesn't prevent one from examining policy questions in light of the statements made by the United States' Government.
Any reason to treat sharing intelligence with Iran different than sharing intelligence with Ukraine?
Not particularly, except that Iran is pretty evil, Russia doesn't want Iran to have nukes either, and I'm American so I find killing Americans uniquely offensive. I can sit in a debate society in law school and say yeah that's fair game, I don't want the federal government to feel that way.
The biggest allegation would be that Khamenei jr is currently directing the Iranian government from Russia, which would be a lot worse.
Is there any good credible reporting on the degree of aid from Russia to Iran? I'm hearing a lot of rumors, and a lot of deflections and non-denials from the administration, but I don't know to assess the credibility of anyone in this space.
It seems intuitive that Russia is the only real "winner" at this point in the war, and that Russia would want the war and the oil shortfall to go on as long as possible. And some of the reporting infuriates me as an American. But I don't want to get caught up in another internet circlejerk from liberal media.
This is going to turn into the mother of all definitional disputes, major and battle being the big ones.
In WWII Europe, the US got caught pretty good at the Bulge before grinding it back around. On the flip side Arnhem failed.
How would you characterize the concern for legal niceties exhibited by everyone else in modern history then? Iran, for instance is attacking other nations seemingly at random and targeting infrastructure and hotels and other civilian targets.
I don't see where this is relevant to the comment I made or the comment I'm replying to.
I think it's notable, as I've stated upwards in this comment chain, that Iran has only reported a total of 200-400 civilian casualties, showing that the USA has shown a great deal of concern for civilian casualties during this war, and an extraordinary ability to prevent them. For all the talk about the girls' school, it's basically been that and some spare change.
But the DoW leadership has hammered repeatedly on the message that the focus of the military is on "lethality, not legality." They have no concern for legal technicalities.
The USA has shown a marked unconcern for legal niceties throughout, that is not going to change any opinions or make the top 5 list at the end of the war.
Power plants are 50/50 anyway, it should be proportional and Iran will provide proportionality afterwards if it hasn't by now.
So apparently the gloves are coming off. Trump has Truthed out, in clear language, that Iran has 48 hours to allow all traffic through Hormuz with no threats of action, or the US will start hitting power plants. Apparently what Trump meant when he said the USA could easily open the strait without any help.
If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!
Notably to this point Iranian government sources have only put civilian casualties at 200-400, essentially one big accident and change for a bombing operation this large. From here the intention is to strike civilian targets until Iran cries uncle.
Iran in turn is threatening to strike back at gulf power generation targets. With weapons they may or may not have at this point.
Chuck Norris is so fast he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
Chuck Norris knows Victoria's Secret.
There is no evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.
Chuck Norris created giraffes when he hit a horse with an uppercut.
Chuck Norris can speak French in Russian.
Chuck Norris doesn't turn the lights on, he turns the dark off.
Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird.
"Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face" is a good argument against overly elaborate plans or plans that don't take account of the enemy's vote. When it becomes a fully generalizable argument against asking for any plan whatsoever, then it's just a deepity.
There is no long term plan clearly expressed at this point. Right now there are three outcomes that have been mooted by Trump and Co at different times:
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Regime change/the people finally rise up: Iran's government falls. USA makes a deal with the new Iranian government (s) to get everything moving again. Goes to Trump's calls for unconditional surrender.
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The United States gets bored and leaves, as Trump threatened yesterday. The gulf countries probably make a deal with Iran to pay tolls to get Hormuz open.
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USA is able to brute force destroy Iran's ability to harm vessels in the strait, and traffic resumes. The air war may continue more or less indefinitely, with Iran slowly ground down but the islamists maintaining power over the rubble. Iran becomes increasingly irrelevant. Goes to Trump's plans for naval escorts and island threats.
I'm not sure which seems likely at this point.
Bragging about how cool I am...
By talking about playing WoW in the lamest way possible
I think I'm doing it wrong.
Weird that this is how I found out about Chuck.
My primary memory of Cesar Chavez is the "Ricky Martin Does Not Sell Out His Latin Heritage" bit from MadTV.
Only to level twelve, and I'm just loving it. I'm sure there are better single player games using the same mechanics, but I just like this one. Also, it runs on my macbook air, which a lot of games don't work properly without fucking with them.
In a fit of pique following an embarrassing back injury earlier this week, I downloaded WoW Classic.
I've realized that my taste in video games is the way extremely monogamous people describe their romantic feelings, I've only ever liked maybe three video games in my life. Pokemon, God of War I and II, and World of Warcraft. I don't know if it's that I have extremely specific taste, or if it's the time they came into my life (similar to sports teams), but even at times when I've thought "gee playing a video game would be nice right now" and I get a new video game, I don't play it for very long.
So now I've got a night elf hunter and Mrs. FiveHour is mocking me, correctly, for being a fucking dork. I recall hunter being the best and most adaptable class to solo PvE, which is all I'm interested in doing right now. I picked female, because I've always though the male alliance bodies looked kinda stupid for anything other than a warrior. I'm digging it, for the most part. A decade after losing my virginity and giving up on the game the first time I've forgotten enough that the game is reasonably interesting. I'll probably end up with a pile of alts, to do a couple different playstyles.
Accusations that become culturally important scissor statements tend to be the ones that are delayed past the expiration of any possible proof or disproof. Like Brett Kavanaugh, how is he supposed to prove he didn't do something in high school?
That leaves everyone to fall back on their priors.
Less vague accusations, like those against Roger Ailes, don't make big waves.
I don't think base rates are super useful for painting values differences. I'm not familiar with the numbers one way or the other, so you're probably correct about them.
But unless we're talking 10:1, or something like that, it's not indicative of "X is a trait of Y, but not of Z" so much "X is a trait of Y and Z."
And just because it didn't happen on twitter, doesn't mean they didn't offer a deal or produce good reasons why a deal didn't happen!
The better view is that the right wing equivalent is religious leaders. I don't typically indulge in the priest jokes (except the funny ones), but it's a pretty universal problem:
‘Nearly 200 Christian leaders accused of child abuse in 2025’, says report
The Witnesses the Southern Baptists:
In response to an explosive investigation, top Southern Baptists have released a previously secret list of hundreds of pastors and other church-affiliated personnel accused of sexual abuse. The 205-page database was made public late Thursday. It includes more than 700 entries from cases that largely span from 2000 to 2019.
The pattern isn't: Left Wing political leaders engage in sex abuse because leftist libertinism. The pattern is: Religious Leaders engage in sex abuse, Left Wing political leaders are religious leaders. Leftists like Chavez are preaching a religion, an ultimate truth about Life the Universe and Everything, and once you get in that deep the sex abuse starts.
If pastors preaching chastity can get handsy, it's not the values being taught, it's the power and the hierarchy.
And instead of being willing to deal at all or even producing good reasons why the deal should not be done, everyone says, "it's our sovereign territory!" Well, yeah, can we do a deal about it? "It's ours! Not yours! You can't have it!"
What was Trump's offer? Was there ever an offer on the table?
Sounds to me like making irrational demands can just be "Art of the Deal"-ing you!
Do what you like doing.
Unless you're entering a comp, the hypertrophy focused sets will get you stronger, and the strength focused sets will make you bigger. Compound lifts should form the core of your work, and assistance work can target the lagging muscle groups in between if you feel the need.
These kinds of aesthetics vs performance details are ultimately unimportant.

Big difference. Nobody likes Iran, a large contingent of American prots actively believe that supporting Israel is a religious obligation. I drive by (biblically ignorant, in my opinion) billboards reading "God blesses those who bless Israel" on a daily basis.
I suppose there's "blessed are the peacemakers" as a counter, but everyone ignores that anyway, except Pope Leo.
Also, I think Republican support for the Iran war is overstated. 80-85% of Republicans support the strikes in most polls I've seen, the equivalent numbers in Iraq were 95%+ (Lizardman range) for the first few years of the war. Losing 10-15% support from your own party is pretty bad, though it's just issue polling.
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