Fruck
Lacks all conviction
Fruck is just this guy, you know?
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Fruck
Lacks all conviction
23hr ago
Yeah, you're advertising your substack. That's not my idea of quality motte content but I guess nobody else gives a shit so whatever.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1d ago
Come on son, at least put the primary parts of the essay here, if not the whole thing.
Ah I'm too old - I can't really type one handed on the phone either. Oh God I borrowed my nephew's phone the other day to call his dad, I just thought he had sweaty hands like his dad.
I've only used one card that worked in that text style format, for a girl in a fantasy world who finds your cousin's phone after it gets isekai'd, but it was bitter-sweet not erotic. But that brings up a related issue - yeah I'll bet you have downtime! As I'm sure you know, the reason the text style conversations don't work that well is because they don't give the AI enough context - but when you are typing out a hundred words about how you would pleasure your waifu, how do you uh maintain momentum?
I'm glad you mentioned regenerating responses and OOC replies and impersonation though, because I find it interesting how that works with my brain - I have used those with romantic and adventure role-playing, and because they were stipulated as necessary by whatever rentry guide I read to get into this nonsense they don't trigger the puppeteer feeling in me, even though they absolutely should. But that was something I noticed about @No_one's original response - it is the context of an obvious business transaction that precludes the possibility of love specifically - there could be a situation where he could fall in love with a prostitute - they meet outside of work for instance.
I guess my point, if I have one, is that it's all about perspective, which means you can deceive yourself into a fictional relationship if you try hard enough. Which is bad news for society, but good news for anyone looking to get off! Personal gratification or society is always in tension. I would be more worried about it if I hadn't already given up.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2d ago
I tried to too, because as I have probably said before I don't give a shit if it's real if it's convincing enough, because I know how little difference the distinction makes to your brain - my thinking was it's no different to any online relationship really, except it will cost you a lot more to meet your AI girlfriend (because you will have to invent androids). Either way, internally you get that sense of connection and someone caring about you despite their physical absence.
And I have found that if I make the prompt good enough I can create a character who continually surprises me in a lifelike manner, but in order to do that I have to give the AI some leeway to disagree and rebuke me - and that is when it falls apart for me, because it breaks the illusion - the moment it challenges me, I’m reminded I could tweak the code to make it agree - and that’s when the self-loathing creeps in, because it’s not just about the illusion breaking; it’s knowing I’m the one pulling the strings.
I also tried making a coombot, as the kids say. I can understand the appeal of that intellectually - what's not to like about sexting with someone who is literally everything you've ever wanted in a sex partner - even if they are a celebrity or a straight up fictional being? But practically... How does it work? I don't understand. Are you typing one handed? I don't want to think about the alternative (time to bust out the press shift five times jokes from the nineties!) I asked grok (for research for this post exclusively) and it suggested I buy a $20 extra keyboard so I can keep my other keyboard clean - please someone tell me that was because of my prompting and not because that's a common solution.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6d ago
Lmao so cutting! And so ironic. The product is called waves, your name is Wave_Existence. Ease your mind, that was the extent of the mental bandwidth I expended on you.
Was it the nanny state when the government updated its laws about child pornography distribution in response to the development of p2p technology? When is it sane to invoke the constitution in your eyes, if not when there is a question about the potential legality of an action or technology?
I was using it colloquially to refer to the right to privacy, sorry for confusing you. But do you have any reason - at all - to assume the government won't use privately made recordings like they have tried to with ring cameras and bodycam footage?
It doesn't make me feel a little uncomfortable, it infringes upon a principle I grew up with and will fight for no matter how sisyphean the task. You might live such a tame and banal life you have no need for a general expectation of privacy in your private life, but I do not.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6d ago
I understand defending these things is an existential concern for you Wave_Existence, but come on, this is the nanny state? The fourth amendment does still exist right?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6d ago
I would expect some government intervention, they'd want you to ensure it only works on glassholes and doesn't affect security cameras somehow. Because otherwise it's just a free crime app.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
7d ago
Thomas the entire forum got together and discussed it, you need to finish episode 3.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
7d ago
I resonate with so much of this, except for finding fiction hard to read - while I also vastly prefer dialogue, my imagination has no trouble generating imagery to match the narrative. But I've always also thought that was the part of reading that was like exercise and years as a slop vacuum have made me farm strong at it. That's why visual novels and comics can be wordy as hell but nobody is impressed when you tell them you read them.
Anyway, do you ever worry when you find yourself saying "Ha ha now you're Tolkien!" (when you just read a cleverly written passage) or "Just fucking shoot me already" (infinite applicable situations) out loud that that's how hobos get started? Because I do, all the time.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8d ago
And that makes me a little sad. Discord is fine, but I can't help but notice that I'm going dow the same path that so many repressed 3rd worlders do and resorting to discussion on unsearcheable, ungovernable silos. For all the sins of social media, it really does-- or at least did serve as a modern public square. And I'll miss the idea (if not necessarily the reality) that the debates I participated in could be found, and heard, by a truly public audience.
I want to feel sympathy for you, because I know how demoralising it is to lose a source like that - but that's because I went through it a decade ago. Social media has not represented the public since, it has been a variety of attempts to control the public. I guess I can appreciate that you finally see the problem.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
9d ago
If anything to me the debates sort of remind me of the ones over personality, psychology, and determinism. We still haven't figured out strongly if people are deterministic or not, and so we seem ill-suited to judge how deterministic an LLM is in its responses. Personally, I'm satisfied by calling LLMs jagged or fragile intelligence, and I think that captures more nuance than a more loaded general term.
Agreed wholeheartedly. The similarities between this argument and the argument to define consciousness are so clear imo it gives the game away. Never mind AI, most people are capable of 'intelligence' (quoted to refer to the op, not snark) but spend most of their time trapped by their context window. Many people will similarly apologise unreservedly for making up code that fucks your set up and tell you how ashamed they are for making such a foolish mistake and how glad they are you caught it and promise to do better - and then print a negligible variation on the code they first gave you. Many people are incapable of absorbing new information and casting out the old, which is why the left are still wailing about Christians persecuting gays and the right are still hunting communists. They refuse to update their memory, or they fall back on old patterns when tired or stressed. Are they unintelligent?
Ok I'm not sure which side I'm arguing now.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
12d ago
San Andreas and Chinatown wars play pretty well on mobile, at least the stand alone versions did and they controlled surprisingly well (maybe even preposterously well - I got up to Las Venturas before I got distracted by something else, and if you had ever heard me bitch about touch controls for phones and tablets you'd be very impressed. Although based on the reviews it sounds like Netflix did something to tank the performance - no doubt adding some data mining shit. Considering GTASA ran perfectly well on my pixel 3 there is no reason it shouldn't run well on pretty much anything available today.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
12d ago
I think you summed it up pretty succinctly, but you forgot the best conspiracy theory angle - Seymour Hersh was deliberately fed a poison pill that bore enough similarities to his other big breaks to convince him to suspend his skepticism, tanking the credibility of the concept in the eyes of the public!
I still don't think that makes him an irredeemable source though.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
12d ago
Do you want to explain what you are talking about? And why a single failure nullifies a career of generally decent reporting?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
12d ago
To me this thread, from start to finish, is the Britta/Chang plot of the UN episode of Community. But I got here too late to break out my globe and red paint.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
16d ago
No actually we've managed to avoid fixating on quote tallies 'til now despite having votes viewable after 24 hours since back on reddit iirc. We just don't fixate on vote tallies.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
16d ago
Ah lol that is where that comes from. I'd seen Lenin referred to as Chudin in the past, I thought it was just an insulting nickname for him. My bad.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
16d ago
You mixed up the quote man - There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
17d ago
If a game gets worse when you play the meta then it's just a shallow, badly designed game.
That's pretty dramatic hyperbole if you ask me. You can optimise the fun out of any game. Chess and go grandmasters often burn out, as do many esports players, when they reach the skill ceiling and their motivation becomes extrinsic instead of intrinsic. Esports players bitch all the time about how playing professionally has impacted playing for fun because they can't help but optimise for success, they can't just relax and fuck around like they used to. Fighting games are great for meta because of the reasons you mention, but even they have ceilings.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
17d ago
I know Alex. Everyone knows Alex. There are uncontacted tribes in the Amazon rainforest who know that you are unhappy with the 'low-iq' people, Alex. That's why you are seething, not just complaining. One difference between seething and complaining is that complaining isn't obsessive. Another is the impetus - if you actually felt superior to those people but incapable of engaging them (which is how you would improve things, as I have told you already) you would be more afraid than annoyed. And yet you seethe. Never worry. Just constant pissy attempts to smear your enemies with whatever is at hand no matter how weak or tangential. Of course even when you hit on an interesting topic of discussion, you still pissily use it to mock the lower classes, who you openly regard as inferior, for having an inferiority complex.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
17d ago
Maybe the reason Trump doesn't understand why it keeps going is because he doesn't have an inferiority complex about class that drives him into fantasy about elite pedophile rings.
Seething about people having an inferiority complex. That's the kind of irony I come to the motte for.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
18d ago
Trust the plan snark is directed at human plans. God is on a different level. If it discredits the eschatalogical Christians that will probably impact the popularity of Christianity I agree - because threats are a good way to bully the ignorant into line - but it can only be good for Christianity on the whole - and the world, since it reduces the number of people doing things like trying to breed special cows to bring about the end times.
The reverse uno option here is genius and the absolute best move for you here Bah. If there is one thing that is clear from your replies in this thread, it's that you really want to have a kid with a Pilipina dame. You aren't so much asking for advice as you are looking for a reason to believe her when all your instincts tell you not to. Sloot's strategy will prove one of you is right.
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