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HereAndGone2
23hr ago
If you stuck to "it's stupid to make 18 year old boys convicted sex criminals because they had sex with their 15 or 16 year old girlfriend", you'd be on solid ground for an argument.
You didn't stick to that. You waded right into the morass of "men are attracted to teenage girls", took a turn into the swamp of "15 year olds are plenty old enough to start getting knocked up and having babies", then dived deep into the marsh of "this is all a conspiracy to stop men in their late twenties from forming loving relationships and starting families with girls younger than them", after first taking a little dip in the bog of "seven year gap is the most fertile, so college age guys and high school girls are the optimum couples".
Nobody really believes a twenty-two year old man wants to settle down and pump out babies every year with his fifteen year old wife, so you are arguing for "adult men and young girls sex should be legal and I shouldn't be looked askance at for wanting to bang girls that age when I'm twice her age" and not "this is why nobody is getting married and having kids, we put artificial barriers in the way of Young Love".
HereAndGone2
1d ago
From what stories online I can find, he was (1) a high school wrestling coach as well as being sixth grade teacher and (2) it's reported they met at athletic events. So presumably if she was on a school sports team, or attending events where there were school teams competing, that's how they met even though he didn't teach her in class. And that's more than just "they hooked up after she graduated high school", so there is definitely a whiff of "maybe he cultivated her" in the air.
How old she was when they met at these athletic events, or how long the friendship leading to romance was going on before she graduated, they started communicating via text in May 2025 and then in July 2025 they had sex, I don't know. But it does sound more on the end of the scale of "he persuaded her into a relationship and then sex" rather than the end of the scale "they met outside of school and had never had any contact prior to that".
She's 17, he's a teacher (but a young male teacher), that kind of attention is flattering. And the possibility there is that there is enough lingering deference to authority figure from school that maybe she wasn't able to tell him no.
I don't know. Nobody knows for sure. Maybe she was happy with the entire thing and doesn't feel that she was pressured into it! The intriguing part of the story is 'who was the mysterious informant who made the complaint, and what were their motives'?
The charge is "inappropriate relationship" and nothing more serious:
The Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office was notified of the investigation by the Otoe County Sheriff’s Office in December 2025 after receiving an intake from the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services. Upon further investigation, deputies learned that the alleged crime occurred in Lincoln.
The Otoe County attorney contacted the Lancaster County attorney’s office, and the Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office took over the investigation.
LSO Chief Deputy Ben Houchin said a relationship between 26-year-old Cody Pester of Lincoln, a teacher at Palmyra Junior/Senior High School, and an 18-year-old Palmyra graduate began in May 2025. Pester and the victim reportedly met during athletic events.
According to Houchin, Pester and the victim had more than 13,000 texts during that period.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
In heavily gun controlled regions of the world, if you want the plebs stay disarmed, you should be very very worried about this new development.
I would have imagined that the problems are not "our citizens are armed and can now overthrow us" but rather "some idiot 3D printed a gun and blew his hand off when he tried to shoot it, now we're looking at a bunch of hysterical screaming on social media about 'why didn't the government prevent this' and some opportunist lawyer persuading the family to sue us for zillions".
Or worse, "some idiot 3D printed a gun then went on a shooting spree in town, now there is hysterical screaming online about 'why didn't the government prevent this'".
HereAndGone2
1d ago
I'm not on Twitter/X, so I don't know what this is about, and this is one of those times where a link would be helpful. Is the debate "rich guys don't marry poor girls, that's only in fairytales and Hallmark movies" or "rich guys like feminine women who hang off their arms and flutter their eyelashes at them, not hard-charging women competing for corporate jobs"?
HereAndGone2
1d ago
The baby-rapist is a canard invented to shame young men out of dating 17 year olds.
Fuck you, friend, and I say that with all compassion and love. Baby-rapists do, unhappily, exist. If you want to die on the hill of "30 year old men should be able to bang 15 year old girls, the hot little sluts shaking their booties at the poor innocent adult man and tempting him with their lush, nubile, fresh bodies into a frenzy of lust!" well go right ahead, but don't try and pretend there is no such real crime as paedophilia.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
Someone informed on them and because he was a teacher and she was a student, they had to investigate. This case may be innocent enough, but on the other hand when it is students and teachers, there has to be a lot of carefulness by the school and everyone associated with it because that could be "26 year old dates 19 year old but they never interacted at all while she was in school" or it could be "26 year old is grooming 16 year old to be in relationship when they're legal" and if you just shrug and go "nah, this doesn't seem that bad" you could be ignoring something that is that bad or worse.
I hope the above paragraph made sense.
How did he meet her? Was it outside of school, or was it "she attended the high school beside the primary school where he taught"? Because my old school was the same: primary school on one side of the road, secondary school attached to it on the other side.
Maybe Mr. Pester the Molester didn't teach her, but knew her from being in the school area. If he started dating her after she graduated and she wasn't even graduated three months, then that sounds more like him hitting on her before hand but waiting until she was legal before he dipped his wick, as it were.
If it could be shown that he had no idea who she was and only met her in the grocery store or someplace, okay I'll bite. But as it stands, it sounds bit like "26 year old has his eye on 17 (or 16? or however old she was when he started work in the school) student, starts a relationship, waits until she's legal to bang her" and that's "teacher grooms student" however you wrap it.
Did Emmanuel Macron's parents 'punish' him for trying to break him and his married with kids his age teacher up? We know they persisted until he was legally old enough and they eventually got married, but I don't think anyone is going to accuse the parents of 'cruel and unusual punishment' there:
Macron is married to Brigitte Trogneux. She is his former La Providence High School teacher and is close to 25 years his senior. They met during a theatre workshop that she was giving when she was a 39-year-old teacher and he was a 15-year-old student and classmate of her daughter. A romantic relationship started later, and his parents attempted to separate the couple by sending him away to Paris to finish the final year of his schooling, as they felt his youth made this relationship inappropriate. (The age of consent in France is 15.) The couple reunited after Macron graduated and were married in 2007.
I mean, this is the part that is making me go "hmmm":
Cody Pester, 26, and the young woman began exchanging texts on May 10, which is the same day she graduated from high school in Palmyra, according to a probable cause affidavit obtained by PEOPLE.
Same day she graduated high school? So same day she was legal and no longer (as he thought) liable to be classed as a student where he's a teacher? Yeah, that's cutting it a leeetle too close to satisfy me.
EDIT: And guess what, Deep is omitting little bits from the story:
In the Spring of 2025, a sixth-grade teacher in Nebraska met a student in his capacity as the high school wrestling coach.
So, while he may not have been her teacher, he did encounter her while she was still at school and we don't know how much contact (grooming) he had with her.
Police update from January 2026 and one question was if the girl was 18 then or is 18 now. Age of consent in Nebraska is 16, so he's clear on that.
So on the face of it, young teacher has his eye on student, waits until she graduates to start dating her, but moves it up a bit too fast before the three month limit is up. Whether you think this is potentially grooming or an adult relationship and he's being victimised, that's up to everyone's opinion.
The curious point is, who informed on them? Parents? Girl herself (did he dump her and this is revenge)? Jealous ex-boyfriend or girlfriend of either party?
HereAndGone2
1d ago
Surname is "Pester"? Nominative determinism strikes again!
HereAndGone2
1d ago
I maybe believe E. Jean Carroll is so brain-fried that she would leave the coat dress hanging on the back of her door for twenty years without going to the cops or anything about it, but really the conviction was all about Orange Man Bad. Now his political opponents and those who hate him can bang on about "convicted rapist!" thanks to the judge putting his thumb on the scale about "well ackshully it counts as rape even if the charge was sexual assault and that is what technically he was convicted of doing".
HereAndGone2
1d ago
The story was incredible, and I mean that in the sense of "cannot be believed". The main problem, if I remember from back then, was that the journalist in question was setting out to write a story about rape/sexual assault in colleges, since this was Hot Topic of the Day, but couldn't find a lot of data/spicy enough cases to actually write the story. Then someone got on to her about "oh, you must hear what this girl is saying" and it took off from there. Perfect scandal bait: it had the sympathetic victim, spicy details, accusations of university administration cover-up because they were protecting the fraternities, and of course accusing privileged white frat boys. Rolling Stone editors lapped it up, the usual suspects believed it unquestioningly, and it was only when the real holes in the story became too big to ignore that they finally had to roll it back. No cover-ups, no string of rapes, no proof anything happened the alleged victim.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
Yeah, I think the solution here is not "found a new AI company to be Lawyer In A Box" but rather get a lawyer if you think you're going to court, then get them to use AI if either or both of you think this would help. Sounds on the face of it that the guy was trying to be his own lawyer, and that won't wash with any judge.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
It was never solidly "X is a metaphor for Y in our world" (except for the few Very Special Episodes about race or whatever) so there is always room for interpretation. Definitely the movies made the Klingons more villainous ("you killed my son!") than the show had done, so TNG with Worf was a correction to that.
Currently, what with the conflicting explanations for why TOS Klingons and modern Klingons look different, and now with this mess that I refuse to recognise as genuine Trek, they're all over the place. I go to my happy place and imagine that Disco Trek onwards are all happening in the Reboot AU timeline and not in Prime timeline so Vulcan still exists, Vulcans are not raging racists, and Starfleet is not full of narcissists and failures for whom every day is Pride Day or else they are being oppressed by being required to act like professionals.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
No freakin' idea. I can't watch this slop for more than seconds at a time, else I'll explode from apoplexy. It really is a teen show for teenagers, because functionally it's Starfleet High. We got yer bullies! We got yer nerds! We got yer Cool Principal! We got yer love triangles, figuring out romance, navigating relationships, and becoming an adult! We got yer Parental Issues by the bucketload in both Mommy and Daddy flavours!
We also have I ate my combadge and sweet Kahless in Sto'Vo'Kor, the only thing that makes sense of this entire morass is that this is not the real, actual, genuine Starfleet Academy for training future Starfleet officers, it's Remedial Education for the crayon-eaters. Hence why Principal Galboss who can't sit properly in a chair, see she's relatable to the kids who also can't sit straight, walk straight, or refrain from eating their combadges.
HereAndGone2
1d ago
Thank you!
HereAndGone2
2d ago
If you think about it for five seconds, of course Klingon society has to have farmers and doctors and construction workers and all the rest of it. Even if it is a warrior-ruler society, they need people who work for them doing non-warrior stuff. Mr. "I'm a lover not a fighter" kid need not be spectacularly different, but the show can't resist piling on the agony to make the point about No, Seriously, We're Talking About Anti-Immigrant Racism In America.
Grew up in a refugee camp (because home planet was destroyed during The Burn), abandoned by both his dads in the polycule (er, what?) and now he just wants to watch birds and become a healer.
Knock yourself out, kid, would be classic Trek attitude here.
HereAndGone2
2d ago
the claim that the gang rape took place on a bed of broken glass.
Yes, that was the detail that made me also go "what the hell?" Accuser claimed she was attacked and knocked down onto a glass table, which shattered under her, then they took turns raping her.
Then she went outside to meet her friends - and nobody noticed her back streaming blood? She didn't go to a hospital or doctor for treatment?
Because you are going to bleed where there is broken glass.
That, and her claims about the dress she was wearing, but she couldn't ever produce it for the reporter, and excuses got up to "it's at home with my mom in a different state, sure she'll let you see it" until that dress never appeared.
Same with E. Jean Carroll and her "dress I was wearing when Trump raped me" story where she allegedly kept it unwashed for twenty some years, until it was produced for DNA testing (inconclusive).
HereAndGone2
2d ago
We know that Wexner had previously dated a woman who converted to Judaism and changed her last name to Cohen, and this was never publicized but a scoop from a journalist, so it wasn’t a “velvet marriage” arrangement.
And we know this from an article that tiptoes around how Wexner was probably very deep in the closet due to being so close to, and so managed by, his mother. It's even alluded to in the story, that being still single at his age, people wonder if he's gay.
We do know Epstein was very charming, very plausible, and had a knack of making connections with people in a position to help his career along. Being a combination wealth plus social manager for Wexner, as well as fellow Jewish, and a charming younger man who was easy to get along with all helped there. Wexner liked running back to Ohio, where he felt most comfortable, and that left Epstein in New York handling affairs for him.
That's the secret behind scams and cons. In hindsight, the victim and everyone else asks "how could I have fallen for that?" but at the time, it's all so normal-appearing that questions aren't asked, or if they are, the explanation is so plausible it shuts down doubt. Epstein is not the only scandal Wexner's name has been attached to; there's a sex abuse scandal with Ohio State University.
HereAndGone2
2d ago
Same thing as happened during the Catholic sex abuse scandals. Genuine victims, but once the principle of "believe any accusation without questioning it" and large financial pay-outs was established, some people decided "Free money? I'll have some of that!" and gave their story of how they were victimised by local (now dead) priest or other. Any doubts cast were met with "how dare you victim blame this poor sufferer?" even where details in the story of alleged assaults were "what the hell, no way that tracks" level.
Most egregious example from my own place is this story.
HereAndGone2
2d ago
Season one of TNG was trying a little too hard to copy original TOS, to the point of remaking some episodes from the parent show. Once they got their own cast and setting established, and ventured out to do original stories, it was way better.
I really, really wanted Enterprise to work because I thought going back to the early days of the Federation and how it was built up was a great idea. The struggles, the coming together of the different founding members we knew from later series, the history behind it all. Instead we got decontamination gel rubdowns where any alien microbes presumably died of second-hand embarrassment.
HereAndGone2
2d ago
Oh, yeah. But he also wanted that balance between "human nature has done terrible things" and "but we can change, here's a vision for the future of optimism and hope". The Federation works for its happy ending, which is why the puerile easy nihilism of over-using the Mirror Universe and Section 31 annoys me. "Guess what, suckers, your shiny future is built on grubby spy manipulation!" and then we get Picard etc. which are then "guess what, suckers, your shiny future is obsessed with late 20th century/mid 21st century SJW tropes as expressed in terms college student Marxists can understand!"
HereAndGone2
2d ago
I am constantly amazed how each new version scrapes that barrel bottom even thinner. New one is "we're a queer show for queer people, wait why is nobody watching? it must be racism and transphobia is why!"
HereAndGone2
2d ago
I wanted to give Enterprise a chance. The soft rock-jazz AOR fusion warbling of the theme song took me aback a bit, but I soldiered on.
Then we got "the fucking idiot* showrunners made it canon that this is not a bad shitty joke, it is now established in the Trekverse that Humans literally smell, so far as Vulcans are concerned, and they have to wear nasal filters to be around us".
I could not believe, over several episodes, that no this was not a shitty joke some dumb Human (Tucker) was trying to make a running joke, it was to be taken as real true fact of the setting.
Then we had Archer going to go to war (or a diplomatic incident) over his dumb dog where a bunch of aliens who had never seen a dog before and had no idea what kind of animal it was neglected to warn him that some plant on their world would give poor doggy-dums the equivalent of an allergic reaction.
The stupid, stupid, stupid attempts at fanservice sexiness (but not too sexy, and let's pretend that you treat radiation by rubbing gel on your half-naked partner. Yeah, hard science for the win!)
I liked Reed. I liked Hoshi. I was willing to give T'Pol a go, even though they plainly had her in the Seven of Nine catsuit and heels role, until they infected her with the mind-controlling Ceti eel and diverted what little character she had apart from being the sexpot to "Imma rebel against everything Vulcan and be 200% pro-Archer, pro-Humans and pro-romance with stinky Human Tucker".
It's a toss-up whom I loathe more, Tucker or Phlox, but given that Phlox is such an insufferable pain in the backside I'd be happy with an episode where they blew up Denobula (they blew up Vulcan, damn them, in the franchise but they couldn't destroy this lair of prats?)
My viewing dropped from "it's new Trek, that's every week sorted!" to "occasional if I remember" and ended with the first whispers of the Time war or whatever that plot was, when they decided they'd re-do Voyager's Year of Hell (the most popular season for that show) and re-cast Archer in the Janeway Action Hero mould. At this period, the Federation doesn't even have working transporters for people, but they're going up against a civilisation that can manipulate time? That's bows and arrows against nuclear missiles. I noped out because Braga and Berman and their bloody love of convoluted time travel episodes, plus some things are just beyond suspension of disbelief, and I didn't like any of the characters or setting enough to stick with the show.
*Yes, I am salty about this. It's reducing Trek to the level of "jokes twelve year old boys would think funny".
HereAndGone2
2d ago
Trump gave us Space Force, that's not Khesterex.
HereAndGone2
2d ago
Updated news is giving name and other details:
We just received a lot of information regarding the shootings in Tumbler Ridge yesterday. Here's what we learned from deputy commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Dwayne McDonald:
The suspect was named as Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, born a "biological male who approximately six years ago began to transition to female"
The updated death toll from the school stands at: one female educator, two male students and three female students
It was confirmed that the two people who had been shot in a nearby home were the suspect's mother and step-brother. The police were called to the home after they had been called to the school, by a female youth who is related to the suspect and victims
Police corrected earlier reports that a victim had died on their way to hospital
The suspect also died from what police believe was a self-inflicted wound
Two firearms were found at the school - one long gun and a modified handgun
Van Rootselaar dropped out of school four years ago. When asked if the suspect faced bullying "because of the transition from male to female", McDonald says there's no suggestion of this
Police had attended the suspect's family home on multiple occasions over several years, dealing with mental health concerns of the suspect. Some interactions concerned weapon
Those found dead in Tumbler Ridge Secondary School were an 39-year-old female educator, three female students, all aged 12, and two male students, aged 12 and 13
So the nine dead are the teacher, five pupils, mother and step-brother, and the shooter.
Yeah, that's dumb. Rich young men have fun with the wholesome waitresses before settling down to marry women of their own class. If the rich guy makes his money later in life, he's likely (again) to marry a woman of his own general level and background (see Bezos and Mackenzie, before he threw it all up in the air for the bimbo next door). Then when he gets mega-rich he may indeed dump her for the younger trophy wife from a lower background, but in general King Cophetua and the beggar girl is not happening much outside of Regency romances. People who come from money marry money, or those who are around money enough to fit into the lifestyle, so yeah the "ambitious girlboss" who can talk about her C-suite level job at fundraisers. The only wholesome waitresses getting into that level are those who did it while in college for fun, or after they graduated and took a year to 'find themselves' before returning to being Daddy's heiress.
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