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HereAndGone2
28d ago
Oh my God.
I know it's said she admired Steve Jobs so much she tried to turn herself into a clone of him with the black turtlenecks, but that is pure Zuckerberg "Hello I am an android" mimicry going on there.
Is everyone in Silicon Valley batshit insane? Does this pass for normal there?
HereAndGone2
28d ago
The trailer is only a few minutes long, and of course the way it's shot and scored and presented makes it look like a movie. So the impressions we are/I am getting are those the film makers want us to get.
But seemingly they really did invite in this crew:
Holmes and Evans invite Fielder and Oppenheim to document their lives in the days before Holmes goes to prison, and the filmmakers continue following the couple over the course of three years.
Oppenheim and Fielder contacted Holmes upon hearing through a friend that she was looking for someone to document her life. Fielder had read John Carreyrou's 2018 book Bad Blood and thought that the story had already been thoroughly covered in the media, but he became curious about Holmes's perspective following her retreat from the public eye.
In April 2023, Holmes and her partner Billy Evans invited the film crew to live at home with them and their children during the 34 days prior to Holmes beginning her prison sentence. A24 gave the filmmakers permission to pursue the project without a deadline or obligation to turn the footage into a finished film, with the studio saying that if nothing came of the project it could just be scrapped. According to Fielder, they knew they had a compelling story when crew members disagreed about what was happening in the house, saying: “And that’s when we really realized, 'Oh, this is really interesting to follow this. We’re all smart and we’re really working at the top of our intelligence. Why can’t we make sense of what’s happening in this house?'"
The original plan was for Fielder to remain behind the camera, but the interactions Fielder had with Holmes and Evans were so strange that it was decided to include them in the film. Fielder and Oppenheim also reached out to several people who knew Holmes or had worked with her, but were unable to get them to participate in the film. Fielder said "People did not want to appear in this, or people from the past were just sort of done with her."
So this really is Holmes doing her utmost best to be appealing and charming and "I'm being real, I'm being honest, I'm not hiding anything" and instead looking completely uncanny. Why did she and her partner do this? Why did they think it a good idea? Clearly when she was shopping around for someone to make a film or piece about her, the idea was to create propaganda (if possible) about her being a pure-hearted blossom who only had the best of sincere intentions and it all somehow went sideways. But this? Invite them in before she goes to jail, then they keep hanging around for three years, and out comes the most uncanny of valleys in the shape of the trailer?
I genuinely thought this was a docudrama with an actress playing her, brilliantly conveying how unhinged she was, but with a lot of artistic licence going on. Nope, this is the real lady showing us how unhinged she is.
HereAndGone2
28d ago
If this is not Culture War tell me, but I'm flabbergasted, I have to share that with you all.
So it seems there is a documentary out about Elizabeth Holmes. I had no idea until I stumbled across this trailer, and at first I thought it was a movie. Because it looks like a movie. And I thought this was two actors and one, at least, of them was going to turn out to be a serial killer.
No, it would seem this is indeed the one, the only, the real genuine pure-quill Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos infamy herself. And all I can say is holy crap.
Because she looks nuts. She looks like "I am about to slip some gelsemine into your tea and then sit by your bedside mopping your brow and cooing reassuringly as you slowly succumb to its effects, in the best traditions of the Golden Age of British murder".
It seems to be shot like a film, there has to be a hefty dose of acting going on because the guy playing? being? the director/narrator of the documentary looks like he is acting the part of "guy reacting to something he doesn't trust" with the hanging open mouth and sucking his tongue etc. reaction. But it seems like the filming really was that weird.
Gosh amighty. And there's a small child, a real small child and not "the script needs a baby" child actor, in this and everything. That really makes me concerned, because I would not leave that woman in charge of a goldfish.
The woman was either crazy as a loon or drugged out to the orbit of Pluto, or both. Because that kind of "pop your eyes wide open until the balls nearly fall out and stare unblinkingly and hold that stare for minutes" kind of behaviour, that is not normal.
How the hell did she get money from the supposedly rich and canny, the kind of hard-nosed business people whose job it was to sniff out frauds and schemers, who made tons of money by making the right decisions on investments and trades? Did the crazy only come out later?
HereAndGone2
28d ago
Oh, are horrid revelations forthcoming? As you say, why are the Boston comrades not front and centre on this? Could they be... complicit?????
HereAndGone2
29d ago
Fear not, comrade, the West Massachusetts branch of the Communist Party USA have issued guidance on the disgusting conduct of the running dog lackey newspaper that reported on this struggle for the rights of LGBTQIA+ people currently undergoing genocide at the instigation of the fascist Trump administration!
HereAndGone2
29d ago
The point being there'd be no feasible way to swap it out with fake documents.
Gosh. Curse the fiendish ingenuity! But if it was possible to put the documents up there in the first place, I have to think it was possible to somehow manage to get up there and replace them with fakes.
I see that the system only worked (or was used) three times, so it seems things regressed to the older manner later:
The Qing Dynasty produced three emperors through a secret succession system: Emperor Yongzheng passed the throne to Emperor Qianlong , Emperor Jiaqing passed it to Emperor Daoguang , and Emperor Daoguang passed it to Emperor Xianfeng. Emperor Qianlong, due to his commitment to the length of his reign, directly abdicated in favor of Emperor Jiaqing before his death, without using the secret succession process.
Of course, the easier way was cut-throat scheming within the harem and the court of eunuchs to put forward 'their' candidate for successor instead of the perceived favourite for crown prince. Or just get power by being the queen mother/empress dowager and ruthlessly seize power as regent/power behind the throne yourself:
Empress Dowager Cixi (29 November 1835 – 15 November 1908) was a Manchu noblewoman of the Yehe Nara clan who periodically controlled the government of the late Qing dynasty as empress dowager and regent from 1861 until her death in 1908.
Cixi was selected as a concubine of the Xianfeng Emperor in her adolescence and gave birth to his son, Zaichun, in 1856. After the Xianfeng Emperor's death in 1861, their son became the Tongzhi Emperor, and Cixi assumed the role of co-empress dowager alongside Xianfeng's widow, Empress Dowager Ci'an. She and Ci'an ousted a group of regents appointed by the late emperor and assumed the regency together. Cixi then consolidated control over the dynasty when she installed her nephew as the Guangxu Emperor at the death of the Tongzhi Emperor in 1875. Ci'an continued to be co-regent with Cixi until her death in 1881.
HereAndGone2
29d ago
Tsk tsk, this is Grey Owl erasure!
Honestly, there seems to have been a mini-craze in the late 19th/early 20th century for accounts by Red Indians (as would have been the terminology of the time) of how things used to be, and it seems a lot of those were written by non-natives. These ranged from what I suppose you could call historical fiction, stories of real American Indians but written by white men, to fake biographies of white men claiming to be Indian (as with Grey Owl).
HereAndGone2
29d ago
Histoires de Parfums 1828 Jules Verne, -1. Very strong nutmeg note, it overpowered everything else.
I'm surprised you don't like it. I happen to have a sample vial of that and tried it just now, yes the nutmeg is coming through but I don't find it overpowering, rather it's warm and pleasant. Different reactions on different skin, I suppose!
Have you tried any of the This is not a Blue Bottle collection? I find often their scents promise more than they perform, but I like pretty much all these ones. Haven't tried the latest one (1.8) yet, waiting for an excuse to spend €52 on perfume when I'm terrible about wearing scent (I buy testers/samples, try them once or twice, then forget I have them and don't wear any).
EDIT:
Bottega Veneta Pour Homme Extreme, 0. Another very resinous juniper, almost pure turpentine in the drydown.
Now you've got me interested, I kinda wouldn't mind smelling like turpentine (though it might be easier/cheaper to just paint a room and clean the paintbrushes, get the smell that way) 🤣
Okay, the full thing is more normal. But this really is a woman putting on a performance so constantly that I don't think she knows herself what's true or not. She has that "this is how a person who is [in X situation] would react, so I react like that" aura about her, which leads to the uncanny effect.
It looks like a very interesting production after all. The truth (or part of it) may be that Holmes has something off-balance about her but genuinely convinced herself that she was not scamming, that this would all work out, that she did not lie and deceive, and so she is convinced of her own innocence. But she is so removed from reality that she has trouble connecting with normal people, and this was her attempt at explaining herself.
That, or she and her partner really are accomplished liars and con artists.
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