MayorofOysterville
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China seems to be doing pretty with well "do nothing, win" as an ethos.
MayorofOysterville
1d ago
I don't think China does want that. I think they want the Islands and Taiwan and the US to fuck off from there side of the pacific. But they have zero interest it establishing global hegemony. Iran was actually closer to that with their network of bases, spies and proxies.
MayorofOysterville
2d ago
The US is not going to fight Russia and China anymore than the US fought the Soviet Union. Nukes prevent that and even so Russia and China can actually defend themselves.
MayorofOysterville
2d ago
I feel like stuff like this should just go in the trasnational Thursday thread.
MayorofOysterville
2d ago
By this standard the Democrats are pro-Republican.
MayorofOysterville
2d ago
The position that non-English or Catholics can't be real Americans was lost more than a hundred years ago. It wasn't the TV forcing America to let them all all in, in 1830.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
IDK the vast majority of Americans disagree with that have essentially forever. We never had a Gulf State model for immigration and we certainly could've.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
Isn't her mother a white American egg donor?
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
You got me.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
If we treated adultery and dumping the wife and mother of your children for some young hottie the way elites are policed about racism that would certainly keep elite males in check. IDK how we could create that sort of taboo but it's definitely doable.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
India tends to do this on a secular level.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
India seems to have a pretty strong taboo on dating and marriage solely from a secular framework. There's very little religous shame about it more family honor and intense cultural and patriarchal enforcment.
East Asia in general also has this. But on a much lesser level. Having a few relationships before marriage is ok but Westerns style serial/casual dating is rather scandalous and not common.
However, the highest levels of both India and East Asia are becoming more westernized so it's possible that like many things the Western model will prevail because the West is seen as enviable and high status.
MayorofOysterville
4d ago
Possibly, and I'm being a hypocrite in that I would be wary to marry an American woman. That said the guys online who fear divorce never seem to optimize against it. If you are both older than 27, both college educated, both same race, same religion. That knocks it down to something like 15% odds of divorce. Staying fit and having kids probably moves it down further.
Then go date in the literal Caucuses*, or Moldova. I wasn't saying East Asia was for everyone more that I chose there for a more traditional and serious dating culture while still being non-religious. Choose the pond for the fish you want to catch.
Edit: Caucasus
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
I don't think most people care that much IRL unless it's over 15 years and even then. Half your age plus seven plus a decent buffer seems to me to be the point where people actually start raising eyebrows.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
Yeah many Redpill and PUA articles discussing female nature are essentially describing borderline personality disorder because those are the types of women who are prone to have one night stands with randos in clubs and bars.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
How large is your age gap out of curiosity?
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
Good advice. Especially 8. I see a lot of guys here extremely paranoid about “random" divorce. In general choosing a good woman and keeping 8 in mind should really eliminate that. Women want commitment from a high value male.
Fish in the right pond. If you don't want a normie liberal woman you are going to have to do something else then just use the apps in a big city this could be joining a church but depends what you want. Searching outside the West is the easiest way by far. The amount of guys who could score a trad hottie by putting half the time and money they did for their degree to find a wife but don't is unreal to me. If you want something different you have to go fish in a different pond. But just depends what you want
For me I'm not really religious or super trad but I didn't do well in the West. I went to East Asia and dating became much easier Just don't be stupid about it. A lot of guys say they want that but then just end up hanging out with English groupies and bar sluts (what‘s a female chad and a male alpha widow lol？ that's basically the dynamic) But it's not hard to wife up a nice traditional girl if you look outside the US for a year or two and learn some of the local lingo.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
This dynamic existed in middle class Anglo families in America and England (making a fortune on the frontier or in the colonies) for maybe a hundred years. It barely lasted longer than our current modern dating dynamic,
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
Stuff like this is why chillness is in my opinion an extremely underrated quality in women.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
The early Islamic conquests definitely didn't do that (unless you were pagan). Hence people of the book and all that. Most of the Middle East was Christian until the early modern period.
And places like Indonesia did convert by evangelism.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
Well in general Christianity is rather incoherent on the topic. The book of Acts and some of Paul's letters are incredibly anti Jewish. Paul's more public facing letters are more conciliatory but when talking to his followers he calls the law slavery, makes insinuations about eunuchs and calls circumcision mutilation of the flesh. This is why some early Christians like Marcion discarded the old testament entirely because it doesn't really gel with the new at all. Especially given Paul's incredible hostilely towards Judaism,.
I think Carlson just doesn't care that much about religion or the Bible that much, but even so the vast majority of Christians don't believe those promises to Abraham apply to the modern day. Christian Zionism is essentially a solely American phenomena. The Crusaders certainly didn't think Jerusalem belonged to the Jews.
MayorofOysterville
6d ago
Thirded for what it's worth.
Attacking China would be insane they have nukes. If the US was going to be attacking any nuclear power it'd be Russia over Ukraine. But the possible result of everyone dies is not worth it. And why would the US attack China what gain is there? Anyway I don't think the US' ability to thrash shithole countries is anything new. Iran was playing at being a power on a horrid economic base with third rate homemade weapons, they failed harder than expected but most of the US' shithole adversaries tend to.
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