MayorofOysterville
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MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
I mean Israel in the West Bank is inching pretty close to full apartheid. Keeping people in permanent stateless limbo in a swiss cheese of disconnected towns. And the Gaza treatment is fucked up too in that they and Egypt essentially don't allow freedom of movement out of Gaza.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
The genocide in WWII was perpetrated by Catholics. The Ustasha facists specifically.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Why would China want to do that? It's not like the US ever fought a nuclear power and for good reason.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
From this comment I feel like you most be an incredible bubble. The MSM media from Fox to MSNBC was incredibly supportive of Israel after the October 7th attacks. The boomercons and boomerlibs started out 100% in lockstep support of Israel along with the entire US political establishment. Except maybe the squad which is 4 out of 435 representatives. Young leftists and groypers were very loud, especially online. And the young leftist were loud in deep blue urban cores and on elite university campuses but were pretty clearly a minority.
Now as the war dragged and increasingly turned into a slaughter with no real military objectives a lot of people turned on Israel. Which is why now the pro-Palestine position is the highest it's ever been. Israel had plenty of goodwill in America but they burned it up by gradually showing their opponents right. And I include myself in this I was very supportive of Israel in their initial fight against Hamas but gradually turned against them over the course of the war. And I know several people in the same boat. I could be in a bubble as well but polling seems to show that there was a real shift in opinion during the war in Gaza.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
I wasn't suggesting the OP try to set up an explicitly white nationalist town, just that it's not hard to find an almost 100% white conservative town in America. And yet as your article shows most white American conservatives aren't actually white Nationalists, the people who ran Craig Cobb out of that North Dakota town, are statistically going to be mostly Trump voters.
Which is why I asked OP about the "evil" he wants to contain. I maybe should have phrased my question a bit better. A better question maybe would have been what does he want to change about society? Because if it's wanting to be left alone as a white conservative well that's easy to enough to achieve, if you want to seize control of the culture well that's something different. And your probably right about Eastern Europe but that just adds another layer, which is that the "program" is basically the post Christian religion of white countries the only countries effectively resisting it are non white countries, especially Islamic ones. Russia is but only by repression a democratic Russia would see St. Petersburg draped in rainbow flags pretty quick. There's a lot of tension in wanting a white society not part of the current program.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
I do think China is less likely to intervene in other countries affairs then the US or Russia
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
I think the reason is looking at the shitshow of American and Russian interventions across the world and deciding do nothing and win is a pretty good ethos.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
The "online right" is a false friend. It's a total disunited shitshow. Essentially none of these "influencers" have a solid community, wife and family. They are surrounded by hangers on and a rotating scene of BPD groupies. They will not save you.
The one option that is certainly not available to us moderns is to ride out and meet it.
That's the only way to win though. There were proto wokes in the 60s arguing for exactly what we have now and they won because they were willing to keep endlessly pushing even though for most of the past 60 years they were despised or irrelevant to most of America. But what is it you actually want? To be left alone in a mostly white area? You can move to small town South Dakota and I doubt anyone will much bother you. To go someplace the government isn't woke well all of Eastern Europe is open and Russia just made a visa for people just like you. I found this post well written and evocative but also vague you want to strike back at "evil?" what does that mean exactly?
And we can still do stuff with the right stimulation WWII was entirely different than our current imperial wars of choice. Defending America from conquering great powers is entirely different than propping up some corrupt government in a shithole country. Why should Americans die for that?
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Yeah pretty much I don't think MAGA are fascists.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Yeah China needs to maintain the capability to invade Taiwan in case they declare independence so they can make good on their threats. But the status quo is pretty comfy and China is only getting stronger so I don't know that they feel much egency.
As for Ukraine China is an inward looking place and despite being friendly to Russia still has decent relations with Ukraine and Europe. A war with Taiwan likely wouldn't involve Europe so I'm not sure they see the Ukraine war as useful to weakening their actual rivals in the Asia-Pacific especially since the US has reduced support and it's mainly Europe propping up Ukraine.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Also China bein friendly to Russia doesn't necessarily mean they are Anti-Ukraine
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Yeah this seems incredibly on point especially that it did actually work for a little bit which let it entrench itself.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Dude in all my relationships I've never had disastrous consequences for answering this question. But I was also just giving a basic answer. I suspect some of your problem in how you were answering are you way over explaining and laying out every neurotic insecurity. Or as others have said it's the type of woman you are choosing. Either way the fact that everyone is disagreeing with you should indicate it's a you problem.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Yeah A bunch of redpill/internet manosophere types are really incoherent about this. A bunch of them look down on career women and say stuff like men provide resources women provide beauty. But then they get mad or at least annoyed about women considering those resources, and then they constantly worry about "divorce rape" and a woman taking half your shit or even women in general taking half the shit of hardworking men. And they never consider deliberately dating a woman with a career or gasp one who even makes more then them to allay these worries. It just feels like a ball of physchosexual anxieties when what they should do is have a sober analysis about whether to go for a women who wants to stay home or have a career.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
Yeah strong agree Baathism seems to me the only post war ideology really similar to Facism. I don't see how people like Pinochet or Franco qualify.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
How is Singapore fascist? they have Free and fair election under a Westminster system? The others aren't really fascist either. The fascists in Spain were the Falange who were in a coalition with Franco but not the leading party. I don't think fascist just means "right wing authoritarian" The self identified fascists in the interwar period were all about state intervention over free markets and there was an element of futurism in both Italian and German fascism that we don't see in those governments.
If we compare them to like Yugoslavia or East Germany though they are pretty comparable. I wouldn't call Pinochet or Franco fascists anyway.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
This shows a major weak link in globalization all the foreigners you've imported can just flee if things get bad.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
I just meant modern in the sense of our, industrialized, urbanized, technological society. Because most industrial societies (really basically all). Have seen gender roles significantly erode, so I have a hard time picturing our current economic model with those social roles, even the 50s I think wasn't seeded for long term stability and really that heyday only lasted 20 years.
You peaked my curiosity because I think it's very rare to acknowledge even for conservatives to acknowledge how totally unprecedented our society is in terms of gender and sexuality, and I'm curious how you would resolve that and how that resolution would look for you?
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
No who you asked but yes. Though it's important to note that for Chinese this theoretically includes all the minorities too. China is a nation for the Chinese which are Han and the 55 other minorities. Though in practice less so as pretty much everyone is Han outside of a few regions.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
The price of that is nothing compare to what has already been spent for munitions and deployments.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
That would be insane. And no way the US violates the nuclear taboo and launches unilateral nuclear strikes over a few oil tankers. Remember the tanker wars in the 80s?
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
No they haven't. Outside of one direct attack on Saudi Arabia's oilfields they've largely left their neighbors alone.
MayorofOysterville
2mo ago
The USG can also directly reduce Iran's capabilities and respond to attacks in a way insurance companies can't.
Well Khomeini died peacefully in bed after achieving his wildest dreams. If your going to advocate for attacking a country maybe at least know the name of it's leader?
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