OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
1d ago
What I have seen from actual partisans:
- Plea deals considered witness intimidation.
- The officer actually shot himself while trying to shoot at Song. No really.
- Dallas field office investigated antifa chapters in their area in 2018 and found they weren’t then planning anything that would harm national security. This detail wasn't allowed into evidence. To partisans it means the government withheld key information that would have destroyed their case, which over the course of Internet Telephone became "The government withheld a key video that would have destroyed their case."
OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
2d ago
It's the "somewhat obsessive way" part that makes it more of a disorder than just an interest in areas forbidden to their gender.
But, when this group grew up with therapy to both accept that they liked these stereotypical girly things but that didn't make them a girl, and to slowly expose them to more masculine pursuits, the vast majority just realized they were gay men by adulthood. The 20% who still felt like the opposite sex I feel bad for, there might be something genuinely wrong with them.
OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
2d ago
I think that's just one segment of the second group.
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🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
2d ago
Speaking of ROGD, its rhetorical use by anti-trans people is a peculiar example of a self-contradictory motte-and-bailey: usually the bailey is a stronger version of the motte, and thus necessarily consistent with it, but here the bailey ("all trans people are delusional and none of them are their stated gender") contradicts the motte ("some trans people with a specific presentation – primarily adolescent girls – are not actually their stated gender") because the latter presupposes that some trans people are, in fact, their stated gender. If you believe all trans people are delusional, why do you care about the specific etiology of the transness of a specific subgroup of trans people? The treatment, whichever you prefer, should be the same.
I think trans people can be largely divided into two groups:
People who had an affinity for the other sex from the time they were toddlers onward. A boy who prefers dolls and dresses to cars, etc. to the point of everyone around them knowing that this toddler is behaving like the opposite sex in a somewhat obsessive way. These people I have a lot of sympathy for, even if I disagree that this means that they are the opposite sex. Dr. Kenneth Zucker mostly treated this group, and in his clinical research about 80-90% went on to become normal gay men after puberty, with the remainder going through some sort of transition in adulthood. I honestly believe most have some kind of hormonal thing, maybe their mothers took estrogen during pregnancy, maybe some other endocrine disrupter got them early on. I still think the best thing is to wait and see if the desire to transition subsides after going through natal-sex puberty, but if the only group that transitioned was this group, as adults, then I would have few qualms for transition as a medical practice.
Unfortunately, there is the second group. Mostly consists of adolescents who for various reasons started thinking that transitioning will benefit them. The RODG group. The Autogynophelia group. Autistic girls who always felt something was off but never could put it into words. ETC. There might be some hormonal issues, but most of the time it's a social contagion of some kind. For this group, transitioning is probably the worst thing for them to do. It's a harsh medical intervention for something that will typically go away after puberty and therapy. Unfortunately, this group is the largest group getting medically transitioned and contains pretty much every transperson I know IRL.
I don't think any trans person is their desired gender, but that doesn't mean that they are delusional. It really is their desired gender. It's just that desiring a gender doesn't make them that gender.
OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
3d ago
Oh that makes more sense. If she was raised in certain parts of India I could see that being a real thing.
OracleOutlook
🇺🇸 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
3d ago
Did she have an eating disorder and did she ever do sports?
The only way I think in the US a woman might think that boys systematically get better nutrition than girls is if they have an eating disorder which they justify to themselves as "everyone does it."
Democracy is a substitute for political violence. The second amendment protects the right for people to take up political violence if democracy fails. It only works if a plurality of people take up arms, swapping guns for votes. Small groups willing to take up arms against the government is not constitutionally protected - if they couldn't win an election with that number of people they don't have a right to a rebellion.
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