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Fiat justitia ruat caelum

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Mods, can we get a mega thread on this? Else I fear it will be like the Charlie Kirk thing, or just devolve into dozens of bare links which you will have to keep moderating.

I think you have to listen to the story to get it. Everyone took the law into their own hands. Yes, legally he shouldn't get the money. But ethically, I don't think anyone took it back from him.

We don't know because it wasn't written in the article and it happened over a hundred years ago. But his car was bought from him at gunpoint and then wrecked later, and I don't think they had great insurance plans back then. He might have been allowed to keep the money out of pity..

Reminds me of this story, starts at 42:54. Bank heist in a small town, everyone in Indiana turns into Batman and joins in to stop the criminals. It would make a great movie.

There is a part where the thieves' car breaks down and they pay a bystander for their car with the stolen money. Question is, does he get to keep the money afterwards? We do not know.

Yeah, also with a CCNA he has a potential of joining a Network Team, which will pretty much always be needed and can't be offshored.

The press will do what the press will do, but that might not be a terrible message for Republicans heading to the midterms with Trump's popularity ratings being where they are.

If you end up looking for a job again, my recommendation is to look for Desktop Support roles in Hospital IT. You can get some weird hours, but after a year or so if you keep up certifications you can possibly swing to other parts of the IT organization. The first year of Desktop IT actually helps you get a full breadth of the IT environment, so that when integration issues arise you have a high level understanding of it already.

If I were a Republican representative, I'd have no issue standing to such a question because i don't self-identify as a fascist. It would actually be great for all the Republicans to stand for such a question because it exposes how ridiculous the Democratic framing of the current political situation is.

The parallels with Greek stories would be more intriguing if there weren't the same allusions/foreshadowing from the Hebrew Scriptures which were written earlier than the Greek Stories.

Jesus's parable of the rejection of the son of god is playing on preexisting themes from ancient Greek theater. Here is wikipedia's summary of Euripides The Bacchae

If you squint you can kind of see a reference but this is a huge stretch. The only thing that seems the same is the "undercover boss" concept? But this is hardly the only example of such even in Greek mythology.

There's enough symbolism involving wine in the Old Testament, like with Melchizedek, the fact that other surrounding pantheons had gods of wine isn't surprising.

Meanwhile, the parable is an exact reference to Isaiah, the part of Isaiah dating to the 8th century BCE:

Let me sing for my beloved
my love song concerning his vineyard:
My beloved had a vineyard on a very fertile hill.
He dug it and cleared it of stones,
and planted it with choice vines;
he built a watchtower in the midst of it,
and hewed out a wine vat in it;
and he looked for it to yield grapes,
but it yielded wild grapes.

And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem
and men of Judah,
judge between me and my vineyard.
What more was there to do for my vineyard,
that I have not done in it?
When I looked for it to yield grapes,
why did it yield wild grapes?


And now I will tell you
what I will do to my vineyard.
I will remove its hedge,
and it shall be devoured;
I will break down its wall,
and it shall be trampled down.
I will make it a waste;
it shall not be pruned or hoed,
and briers and thorns shall grow up;
I will also command the clouds
that they rain no rain upon it.

English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Is 5:1–6.

I assume Jesus was more familiar with Isaiah than Dionysus in his earthly life.

Paul states plainly that all Israel will be saved.

I agree a lot with what you quoted from Pat Roberson, except for the idea that "Paul states plainly that all Israel will be saved." That relies on a typical Protestant misreading of Paul and Salvation.

The New Law did not abolish the old covenants, it was a practical set of compromises to enable the diffusion of Christianity created by Paul, not Jesus.

I did not say abolish, Jesus said fulfilled. If you do not recognize the difference between the two words then I don't know how much further we can go here.

I tend to agree with Joe Heshmeyer here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tVl5FgXNbws?si=10HXwZshfSsDc8Zr.

I suggest that the right answer on the relationship with Israel and the Church - on the relationship on the old and new covenant - is more nuanced, more subtle, and harder to explain, by virtue of being the right answer. And that you see the difficulty of articulating this even within the pages of the New Testament.

Basically, Judaism is special compared with other religions in that they actually received Special Revelation from God. All religions have some kind of revelation of God through their conscience, reason, and the witness of creation. But God revealed Himself more profoundly in the Old Testament, and the Jewish people today still have access to that special revelation.

Does the old covenant save? There were elements of the Mosaic law that were Preparatory for the Messiah and now the Messiah has come. Those are fulfilled you don't need to observe them and in fact observing them now may be a sign of a lack of fidelity. It maybe a sign that you don't really believe the Messiah has come.

Acts 4:12 says that there is no salvation except through Jesus. In Genesis God tells Abraham that He has made him "a father of many nations." Gentiles are also children of Abraham. The Biblical answer is not that the Jews and the Gentiles are saved though separate means. Nor is it that the Jews are saved by biology. Rather that Jews and Christians are both saved through faith in the one God. Someone who has the Faith of Abraham is the son of Abraham. Christian salvation is tied to Jewish history, however there is no religious pressing need for Jews to have possession of the territory of Israel.

It was Paul's innovation of the New Law

It seems like it was Jesus' wish as well:

“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to get his fruit.  And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another.  Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’  And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.  When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”

English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Mt 21:33–41.

Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.  And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”

English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Mt 21:43–44.

Jesus said He came to fulfill the law. When something is fulfilled, is it still happening or is it over?

ˈfɪl) vb -fils US or -fills, -filling, -filled tr 1 to bring about the completion or achievement of (a desire, promise, etc.) 2 to carry out or execute (a request, etc.) 3 to conform with or satisfy (regulations, demands, etc.) 4 to finish or reach the end of he fulfilled his prison sentence

-Collins English Dictionary

He's a great Young Adult author who is treated like a writer of adult books because he doesn't include teenage throuples in his writing.

I started with Guards! Guards! as a teenager and honestly the Vimes books from Guards! Guards! through Thud! are the best. I only read other Pratchett books because I enjoyed The Watch books and became comfortable with the style.

Though Hogsfather has a special place in my heart, I think it should be read after you are familiar with the setting.

US citizens urged to ‘shelter in place’ after Mexico drug lord’s killing sparks wave of violence

Using US intelligence, Mexican Military has taken out “El Mencho," a vicious cartel leader who has no heir apparent. In consequence, Puerto Vallarta has erupted in violence, Americans are told to shelter in place, the airport has diverted flights, and all in all it was a Fiery Sunday.