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3hr ago
If I were a Republican representative, I'd have no issue standing to such a question because i don't self-identify as a fascist. It would actually be great for all the Republicans to stand for such a question because it exposes how ridiculous the Democratic framing of the current political situation is.
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6hr ago
The parallels with Greek stories would be more intriguing if there weren't the same allusions/foreshadowing from the Hebrew Scriptures which were written earlier than the Greek Stories.
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22hr ago
Jesus's parable of the rejection of the son of god is playing on preexisting themes from ancient Greek theater. Here is wikipedia's summary of Euripides The Bacchae
If you squint you can kind of see a reference but this is a huge stretch. The only thing that seems the same is the "undercover boss" concept? But this is hardly the only example of such even in Greek mythology.
There's enough symbolism involving wine in the Old Testament, like with Melchizedek, the fact that other surrounding pantheons had gods of wine isn't surprising.
Meanwhile, the parable is an exact reference to Isaiah, the part of Isaiah dating to the 8th century BCE:
Let me sing for my beloved
my love song concerning his vineyard:
My beloved had a vineyard on a very fertile hill.
He dug it and cleared it of stones,
and planted it with choice vines;
he built a watchtower in the midst of it,
and hewed out a wine vat in it;
and he looked for it to yield grapes,
but it yielded wild grapes.
And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem
and men of Judah,
judge between me and my vineyard.
What more was there to do for my vineyard,
that I have not done in it?
When I looked for it to yield grapes,
why did it yield wild grapes?
And now I will tell you
what I will do to my vineyard.
I will remove its hedge,
and it shall be devoured;
I will break down its wall,
and it shall be trampled down.
I will make it a waste;
it shall not be pruned or hoed,
and briers and thorns shall grow up;
I will also command the clouds
that they rain no rain upon it.
English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Is 5:1–6.
I assume Jesus was more familiar with Isaiah than Dionysus in his earthly life.
Paul states plainly that all Israel will be saved.
I agree a lot with what you quoted from Pat Roberson, except for the idea that "Paul states plainly that all Israel will be saved." That relies on a typical Protestant misreading of Paul and Salvation.
The New Law did not abolish the old covenants, it was a practical set of compromises to enable the diffusion of Christianity created by Paul, not Jesus.
I did not say abolish, Jesus said fulfilled. If you do not recognize the difference between the two words then I don't know how much further we can go here.
I tend to agree with Joe Heshmeyer here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tVl5FgXNbws?si=10HXwZshfSsDc8Zr.
I suggest that the right answer on the relationship with Israel and the Church - on the relationship on the old and new covenant - is more nuanced, more subtle, and harder to explain, by virtue of being the right answer. And that you see the difficulty of articulating this even within the pages of the New Testament.
Basically, Judaism is special compared with other religions in that they actually received Special Revelation from God. All religions have some kind of revelation of God through their conscience, reason, and the witness of creation. But God revealed Himself more profoundly in the Old Testament, and the Jewish people today still have access to that special revelation.
Does the old covenant save? There were elements of the Mosaic law that were Preparatory for the Messiah and now the Messiah has come. Those are fulfilled you don't need to observe them and in fact observing them now may be a sign of a lack of fidelity. It maybe a sign that you don't really believe the Messiah has come.
Acts 4:12 says that there is no salvation except through Jesus. In Genesis God tells Abraham that He has made him "a father of many nations." Gentiles are also children of Abraham. The Biblical answer is not that the Jews and the Gentiles are saved though separate means. Nor is it that the Jews are saved by biology. Rather that Jews and Christians are both saved through faith in the one God. Someone who has the Faith of Abraham is the son of Abraham. Christian salvation is tied to Jewish history, however there is no religious pressing need for Jews to have possession of the territory of Israel.
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1d ago
It was Paul's innovation of the New Law
It seems like it was Jesus' wish as well:
“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to get his fruit. And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”
English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Mt 21:33–41.
Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”
English Standard Version Catholic Edition (n.p.: Augustine Institute, 2019), Mt 21:43–44.
Jesus said He came to fulfill the law. When something is fulfilled, is it still happening or is it over?
ˈfɪl) vb -fils US or -fills, -filling, -filled tr 1 to bring about the completion or achievement of (a desire, promise, etc.) 2 to carry out or execute (a request, etc.) 3 to conform with or satisfy (regulations, demands, etc.) 4 to finish or reach the end of he fulfilled his prison sentence
-Collins English Dictionary
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2d ago
He's a great Young Adult author who is treated like a writer of adult books because he doesn't include teenage throuples in his writing.
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2d ago
I started with Guards! Guards! as a teenager and honestly the Vimes books from Guards! Guards! through Thud! are the best. I only read other Pratchett books because I enjoyed The Watch books and became comfortable with the style.
Though Hogsfather has a special place in my heart, I think it should be read after you are familiar with the setting.
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2d ago
US citizens urged to ‘shelter in place’ after Mexico drug lord’s killing sparks wave of violence
Using US intelligence, Mexican Military has taken out “El Mencho," a vicious cartel leader who has no heir apparent. In consequence, Puerto Vallarta has erupted in violence, Americans are told to shelter in place, the airport has diverted flights, and all in all it was a Fiery Sunday.
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4d ago
And then you combine that giving each person in a household a different meal to be cooked isn't efficient, so you'd have to synchronize and package them to be cooked all at once, and now you get into all the possible permutations you'd need to accommodate every household represented, and that's before you account for vegetarian, kosher, gluten free, peanut allergy, sesame allergy... you get the idea. Complicating this even further is the fact that while the maximum monthly benefit is around $10/person/day the average is more like $6/person/day, which means that a typical SNAP household is still buying a significant amount of food with their own money, at which point the entire system collapses anyway.
I acknowledge the complexity, which is why I recommended a team of chefs and nutritionists to come together with suitable options that the individual can select from every week. Given the sheer number of people on food assistance, there would be plenty of room for economy of scale, even with such variety.
Would you be okay if your employer told you that to maintain your health insurance you had to buy a meal kit subscription with your own money on the theory that if you had to pay for it anyway it you'd eat those meals and not junk, saving the insurance company money?
But see, that would be my own money. It would mean my employer is offering worse benefits, and if I wanted to I could switch jobs to find better benefits. Maybe I'd find the meal kits more convenient, it would be worth trying out for a couple weeks while I job hunted if they were affordable.
If it is for free? Hell yeah I'd sign up. Maybe I would sometimes supplement and buy more things with my own money.
The disconnect is that SNAP isn't some cosmic law of nature. It's charity, and we can sometimes decide if another form of charity is better. There is a user above me who says they loved stuff like this as a poor child, because it meant actual food in the house.
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4d ago
I feel like the only practicable way to do this is to pay refunds to the people who paid the tariffs to the government. In some sense increased costs to consumers were caused by the tariffs but good luck proving that to a court (absent some kind of contractual provision for the scenario).
This is such a nightmare to me, because the company-I-work-for's customers absolutely would expect for me to refund the tariff back to them in return, and that's going to be a full time role to calculate and disburse those funds.
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5d ago
I will briefly touch on the even more ridiculous idea that the government should just provide Hello Fresh or MREs, if only because it leads nicely into my next point. These items cost around $10/meal.
I would like to call out that I explicitly rejected providing Hello Fresh in my proposal, but rather a service that is similar in operation to Hello Fresh but explicitly more economical - spaghetti without meat, etc.
It's not so much that poor people aren't deserving of treats, or that they need to fix their obesity before getting the government dole. It's that the food someone eats directly contributes to their obesity and health issues, which we then have to pay for as well. There is a lot of crossover between people on Medicaid and SNAP.
I think it's not compassionate at all to just throw people to the wilderness without teaching them how to cook healthy food, what healthy food looks like from the store, what they should buy, etc. We used to teach this in High School, but we no longer do outside of a half semester health/gym class.
It's not compassionate to sit by as they eat their way to poor health and all the suffering that corresponds to that.
At the end of the line, it's not compassionate to the tax payer to spend their money on wrecking the health of the poor, and then pay to try to treat the symptoms of their metabolic disease. It's like a version of this meme.
I think it accurate to say that my positions on this does stem from the Conservative Principle that, "there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent."
Largely, it is within human nature to get fat and sick when eating potato chips and soda. We may be able to come up with medicines to combat this, but the underlying human nature is enduring and constant. It is morally true that it is an injustice to make someone dig a hole and then fill it in. Similarly it is an enduring truth that it is immoral to make someone pay to make someone get sick, and then make them pay to extend their life in an unhealthy state.
Notably, I'm not even putting moral judgement on the people on SNAP here. I don't blame them for not having been taught these skills, I'm not trying to punish them for their flaws, I'm just trying to imagine a way to help them that helps more than hurts.
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5d ago
MRE's cost the USG about $10-$15 a serving. They are very not economical compared to a box of spaghetti noodles mixed with 4 Tbps of melted butter and a Tsp garlic salt served to a family of four.
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5d ago
I wrote "without government or charitable intervention." in the comment you responded to?
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5d ago
They could as well, we chose not to do it that way. People think they deserve faceless government gibs, they don't like realizing that they are relying on the beneficence of others.
I guess there are people in the margins who even the most charitable charity would rather not serve. Charities cluster in cities, poor people cluster in rural areas. When the most awful drunkard wifebeater comes up for his bowl of daily soup, would some charities turn him away? Maybe. Progressives are scornful of the idea that there should be individual human judgement in such things.
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5d ago
The homeless have charitable interventions keeping them alive.
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6d ago
Why would Hello Fresh need to worry about profit/loss once they have infinite government money?
Does it become like Medicare where prices are fixed by a centralized government agency?
Or does it become like colleges where prices to everyone balloons until everyone needs a subsidy to attend?
We are already messing enough with the free market to ensure that the poor do not starve, which is what the market would demand without government or charitable intervention.
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6d ago
Well, I'm imagining something more socialist, run out of the USDA or something. Not just giving money to Hello Fresh and having them do it.
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6d ago
I wonder if those meal boxes that are growing so common are an option. Upper-middle class people like them, so they're not punishing the poor.
Envisioning a system that everyone who applies to it can choose online between a selection of 15 or so meals, rotated out by a team of chefs and nutritionists. Most are pretty basic - spaghetti with canned sauce, some kind of chicken and sauce on rice, etc. Maybe 1 or 2 meals a week with some nicer cuts of meat.
Every meal comes with directions on how to cook it. When you are selecting your meal, you can sort by how long it takes to cook it, which is calculated by the median of self-reports from the users (no bs chefs claiming onions take 2 minutes to cut and sautee.) Most meals target cooking in 30 minutes or less.
Additionally, every week comes with powdered milk, choice of oatmeal or cold cereal, instant coffee, sliced bread, deli cheese, deli meat, salt, pepper, butter.
People pick up their kits from participating grocery stores nearest them. When you first enroll, a free pot and pan is thrown in with your bundle.
I don't think this will cut EBT costs but it might improve medicaid costs over time. At least it might remove some of the resentment.
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6d ago
This is a good video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4835tL4srpY?si=eHG--SvWXTwL612h
Basically there are three aspects to a good Lent: Prayer, Fasting, and Almsgiving.
Prayer
Your parish might have free devotional books that give you a daily Lenten meditation to read. It's not a bad idea to follow along!
If not, reading a section a day of the Gospel of Mark is common. There are 16 chapters, so if you finish a chapter every 2-3 days you will arrive at the end around Holy Week. Look up Lectio Divina methods of reading.
The Imitation of Christ is a good devotional book as well though it might be too much meat if you're still absorbing milk.
Otherwise, there are a myriad of popular Lent books out every year with forty days of meditations, reflections, etc. Something like https://www.avemariapress.com/products/witness-1. Some people swear by them.
The important thing is to not just read it, but then spend 5-10 minutes thinking about what you just read, asking the Holy Spirit to guide you in prayer.
Fasting
There are two days of fasting, Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Abstinence every Friday of Lent.
Some people do more food fasts. Everything from OMAD and vegan diets to giving up candy/coffee/soda. I'm doing the ex150 diet with the occasional fish instead of beef.
Lately there is a stronger push to do a digital fast. Some people log off social media except for Sundays. I uninstall the apps from my phone and keep to the computer. Set a two hour stretch every day where your phone is in another room. Something like that.
There are other kinds of fasts too - only listen to religious music, only watch religious programming, etc.
Almsgiving
If you are fasting from coffee-shop coffee and saving $25/week, give it to the poor. Basically, one of the benefits of certain types of fasting is it might save you some money, but instead of using that money to benefit yourself, use it to benefit others.
If you are not financially supporting your parish yet, prayerfully consider what you can offer going forward. If you cannot give money, consider giving time. For example, your parish might have a library, you can offer to help check in and shelve books for 30 minutes after mass ends.
Good Friday is not part of Lent, but basically finish strong. Whatever you were doing, double it. It's a tradition for my family to turn off all devices and be silent from 12 to 3 PM. If you can attend your parish's Holy Thursday/Good Friday/Easter Vigil services, I highly recommend going to all three at least once in your life.
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6d ago
To be conservative is to be disposed to think and behave in certain manners; it is to prefer certain kinds of conduct and certain conditions of human circumstances to others; it is to be disposed to make certain kinds of choices…. In short, it is a disposition appropriate to a man who is acutely aware of having something to lose which he has learned to care for; a man in some degree rich in opportunities for enjoyment, but not so rich that he can afford to be indifferent to loss. It will appear more naturally in the old than in the young, not because the old are more sensitive to loss but because they are apt to be more fully aware of the resources of their world and therefore less likely to find them inadequate. In some people this disposition is weak merely because they are ignorant of what their world has to offer them: the present appears to them only as a residue of inopportunities.
To be conservative … is to prefer the familiar to the unknown, to prefer the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss. Familiar relationships and loyalties will be preferred to the allure of more profitable attachments; to acquire and to enlarge will be less important than to keep, to cultivate and to enjoy; the grief of loss will be more acute than the excitement of novelty or promise.
Michael Oakeshott, in Rationalism in Politics and Other Essays
Conservative is a disposition of being, not a coherent philosophy. There are many different philosophies which people of a conservative disposition can ascribe to coherently.
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7d ago
Fuentes is funny because he’s just a funny guy.
What is that saying about taste?
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8d ago
I still don't really get what a groyper is other than a Fuentes fan. And Fuentes is a Mexican who hates Jewish people and women but claims he is not gay despite finding women disgusting. And people think he's funny because he says stupid gross things confidently and without shame. Like a low-production-value Nazi Colbert Report.
Are many of his fans trans?
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8d ago
Is that a... Trans Groyper?
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8d ago
"That's so weird that you would ask that. Why do we have a secret ballot if we're just supposed to tell everyone who we voted for?"
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10d ago
Unfortunately, you can take a video and clip out the part where you acted deranged. Then make the cops punching back go viral to your bubble.
If you end up looking for a job again, my recommendation is to look for Desktop Support roles in Hospital IT. You can get some weird hours, but after a year or so if you keep up certifications you can possibly swing to other parts of the IT organization. The first year of Desktop IT actually helps you get a full breadth of the IT environment, so that when integration issues arise you have a high level understanding of it already.
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