Owlify
28d ago
Same, I also despise the complementary idea that refusing to engage in such behavior makes you soft, naive and stupid.
Owlify
29d ago
Many people don't have such a transactional view of marriage, and are happy to do their best to make each other comfortable and happy. It makes a lot of sense to me to have boring household chores be delegated to someone else rather than waste your life doing them if you can afford to do so.
Owlify
30d ago
I don't consider it a good thing to do either, I was just describing why @_brentbaum called it agentic in the first place. I presume he was ok with the status quo (feeling cold), and hadn't considered doing something to feel less cold (problem solving is agentic), let alone deceiving a hotel and taking other people's stuff.
Owlify
30d ago
It's not usually meant like that, but sometimes people do consider doing things others wouldn't as more agentic.
I haven't noticed any gendered patterns of how the word is used yet. I have mostly heard it in context of it being promoted as a virtuous trait, for self-improvement and to improve society by believing you can do it (especially in tech-adjacent discussions).
Owlify
30d ago
It is being used to describe out of the box thinking in this case, as most people wouldn't consider stealing a scarf from a hotel in that manner.
Owlify
1mo ago
Yes, but their status relative to their husband will be lower, and even if they don't care about that then the things you have to do to marry someone high status and stay married to them are very different from the things you have to do to have your own achievements and gain status through them. One is much more agentic and less dependent on other people so it will be the preferred method.
Owlify
1mo ago
I have read (but not sure of its veracity) that people who owned slaves had a carrot and stick approach rather than a punishment only approach for motivating people. It's also why sometimes there was a price set that could earn you your freedom if you managed to pay it. It allowed people to tell their slaves to go off and labor on their own and earn money, of which they would take a cut, so that the slaves would do the maximally productive task.
Owlify
1mo ago
The reason housewives aren't higher status is because they have no money and they do unpaid work. They have no independent ability to take care of themselves and make life decisions either, and are financially dependent on someone else. Unless that changes (due to AGI/UBI), things will remain the same.
Owlify
1mo ago
Menarche seems to be affected much more by nutritional standards, rather than correlated with intelligence. The women in my generation started their periods earlier than those in my mother's generation, and they started it earlier than those in my grandma's generation, but the younger generation is smarter. Brain development and hormonal changes leading to puberty are probably mostly independent.
Owlify
1mo ago
This, additionally creating deepfakes is not the same as vividly imagining someone naked, otherwise men wouldn't take the effort to create them.
Owlify
1mo ago
It would still be rape to do it with a sixteen year old in a coercive situation.
Owlify
1mo ago
I also want to know this, because I haven't seen any. Maybe he is just referring to practices that motivate Hindutva activists like conversion, "love jihad", etc. and opposition to religious laws, and mixing of government and religion as part of secularism?
Owlify
1mo ago
Or everyone can live peacefully in India. Even many serious Hindutva activists want people of other religions to live their lives peacefully, and are ok with them openly practicing their religion. The kind of extremist opinions you see are a minority.
Owlify
1mo ago
You don't have to be a deranged sociopath to be willing to say anything to win an argument. Most normal people who go into debating clubs etc learn this.
Owlify
1mo ago
There was an assertion, either in the documentary itself, or in the commentary surround it, that the minority of higher caste Indians in India regard the rest of the degenerate masses as subhuman. I've always wondered how true this is. It didn't seem like the people making that assertion had any native knowledge of that claim.
We don't view them as subhuman. People do tend to view them as lesser in social hierarchy (it's humans nature to perceive the world in that lens, but in India there's widespread cultural awareness, even if not always practiced, that such hierarchical thinking should be challenged and that we should be non judgmental, rooted in Hindu philosophical traditions) but saying that people view the less privileged as subhuman is absurd by any standard. Generally (I can't speak for everyone, just the common view) people don't view them as inherently lesser either, in any sense of the word (whether that's less smart, moral, lazier, etc.). People recognize that those lower in social hierarchy are the way they are because of their circumstances, rather than being born that way. If you ever visit India, you will see it is common to be polite and kind to those from a lesser socio-economic background, like domestic maids and servants. For example, it is extremely common to refer to rickshaw drivers, street vendors, laborers etc. as "bhaiya" (meaning brother), something which wouldn't happen if we viewed them as subhuman. It's taught to us as children, at both school and at home, to show respect and dignity to everyone, regardless of their job/background. I can go on about this, give you many examples of people being charitable, if you are still not convinced.
I don't think mrvanillasky is a bot or a psyop. I don't like assuming the working behind other people's mind, but I would describe his statements as a result of being consumed by a parasitic egregore, fueled by both recent tensions surrounding Kashmir and general resentment of reservations (affirmative action) in India.
Owlify
1mo ago
To be fair, they haven't advocated for an alternative yet. They recognise that ownership is the best known solution for society currently, but are trying to think of even better solutions
Owlify
1mo ago
I think the main problem is that sharing can be much more complicated. It's much easier to divide resources and manage them independently of each other, than to share their use, as interests often collide and conflict management is difficult. I would love to hear suggestions of viable alternatives to ownership. I have thought about this problem before in exactly the same manner. I think it might be easier to create more resources (even the resources currently thought to be "limited" like land) through technology and humanity's colonization of space than to solve the sharing problem.
Owlify
1mo ago
I once read about a strategy that only adds cards that you find super interesting and want to keep reviewing, and deletes/archives all other cards so you get the benefit of remembering atleast those facts.
Maybe they would be better if you gave them the complete patent database of your domain. Sometimes this sort of thing works. You would have to use the paid models though.
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