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Ere the Sun rises
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I'm not aware of Etruria being a non-Indo-European zone, are you referring to the Etruscans? The Etruscans were assimilated by the Romans, but it turns out they were also actually an IE tribe although they didn't speak an IE language. The Sabines and the Samnites were also IE tribes.
According to almost 2,000 years worth of genomic data, collected from 12 sites across Italy, these enigmatic people did not emigrate from Anatolia (a region that's now part of Turkey), but shared genetic heritage with people who lived nearby in ancient Rome.
All were descended from pastoralists who moved into the region from the steppes during the Late Neolithic and Bronze Age. Given that the steppes are thought to be where Indo-European languages originated, the finding underscores another Etruscan mystery – that of their (now extinct) non-Indo-European language, which managed to persist for centuries.
Isn't the South originally Indo-European descended? Greeks, Romans, Normans, the Aragonese?
All of Europe was originally (for purposes of this discussion) inhabited by Early European Farmers who migrated into Europe like 10,000 years ago. And then starting about 5,000 years ago, during the transition between the Neolithic age and early Bronze Age, Indo European tribes invaded Europe.
All Europeans have significant admixture from both groups, but that's the main story in the North/South divide in Italian admixture, not African admixture (really with the exception of Sicily itself).
The Steppe nomads, Yamnaya culture, were barbarians but then they migrated to Europe and evolved into the Corded Ware culture which became ancestral to Celtic, Latin, Germanic, Baltic, and Slavic cultures. The Haplogroups R1b and R1a are linked to the Indo-European steppe migrations and those haplogroups dominate European Royalty: R1b dominates Western European, British, and French royalty while R1a dominates Eastern European and Slavic royal lines.
Of course Haplogroup R1a is also prominently found in India at high frequencies (40-70%) among Indian Brahmin communities particularly in North India, and that haplogroup was brought to India by IE migrations into India. So that tells the same story as Europe.
The Finns have high levels of IE admixture, much higher than southern Italy.
Just browsing that map of Europe I linked does provide a strong correlation with wealth and development. Looking at that map also suggests there's no coincidence the Industrial Revolution was started in the North Sea area.
Edit: This is not to say I disagree that they were barbarians. But as Nietzsche said "The noble caste was in the beginning always the barbarian caste." The Latin barbarians (dominated by R1b haplogroup) did rampage through Italy and killed a lot of people, and then they built Rome and became the Nobles.
Some significant clarifications:
- Sicily has between 3-7% North African admixture, in some cases up to 12% reportedly, not insignificant but also not dominant and not really stratified across Southern Italy. That North African admixture is almost entirely isolated in Sicily and is 0 - (low) throughout the rest of Southern Italy.
- The Southern European phenotype is not derived from North African admixture, it's derived from the Early European Farmers. The Sardinians are a unique people in that they retain basically an entirely EEF admixture, and their phenotype was not inherited from Africa or Arabs. It's the closest you can get to seeing what a Early European Farmer looked like from thousands of years ago.
- What you do see more significantly stratified across North Italy to South Italy is not Arab/African admixture but Indo-European admixture.
So the story there is more dominantly "Early European Farmers - Indo-European" spectrum from South to North and not really "African/Arab - European". Sicily is somewhat the exception given it does have non-negligible North African ancestry and that shows up in the Genetic analysis as well. You propose somewhat of a false dilemma:
You can conclude the South is poorer because of African ancestry. Or you can notice that the South spent a thousand years as a strategic chokepoint that every Mediterranean power needed to control, while the North was a fractured set of city-states that nobody could grab easily. One of these explanations predicts the data and the other is constructing vibes based on a satellite photo.
Not because of African ancestry but Indo-European ancestry. Yes, the Indo European colonizers conquered the Italian peninsula in different waves and different times, first it was the Romans, then the Barbarians and so on. But the HBD interpretation would be that the percolation of various empires and city states in the areas with greater Indo-European admixture is not a coincidence, i.e. the establishment of the Roman Empire with the arrival of the Latin tribes to Italy. That would be the Noticer explanation for why Northern Italy had this high degree of civilizational development that lacked in Southern Italy, not because of African ancestry.
So the Noticing is not a black mark against North African ancestry as much as it stresses that the Indo Europeans really were a colonize and impose civilization everywhere type of people.
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1d ago
Resentment is bitterness towards someone or something, ressentiment is formulating your values to be the antithesis of your target of resentment.
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Ere the Sun rises
2d ago
impotency = lack of power, correct? So he's saying people want to realize their positive values, but can't, and so their chronic frustration curdles into "Ressentiment"?
That was my read on this excerpt from Schaler too, but it just seems to be describing resentment. If you want to realize your positive values, but can't, that can lead to resentment but ressentiment is something different. Ressentiment is- you can't realize your positive values so you just define your positive values as being the opposite of the Masters.
You can't join that exclusive WASPy frat, play sports, get the chicks, so you frame all of those things as bad and being a weak, loner, nerd as being the good.
According to Nietzsche's interpretation, ressentiment was derived from a "slave revolt" against Master Morality- flipping the concept of good/bad and making the weak "good" and the strong "evil." That's a cultural phenomenon that spans both ends of the political spectrum but is clearly more of a left-wing cultural phenomenon- the mentally disturbed transgender obese Reddit mod becomes the "good" against the White Frat Chad driving the cool car and getting all the chicks, who is "evil." The socially incompetent, weak, ugly nerd is the good and the charismatic, popular, attractive, strong Jock is the bad guy. That is the sort of moral inversion that strikes at the heart of ressentiment.
Ressentiment frames weakness, ugliness, slave morality as a moral superiority over noble values, strength, and beauty.
Ultimately ressentiment is not about being powerless it's about asserting that state of powerlessness as constituting moral superiority over those who have an exercise power. "I am morally superior because I am weak and oppressed" is the cornerstone of ressentiment and it's a phenomenon that spans both ends of the political spectrum but is clearly derived from left-wing cultural criticisms of traditional morality in the 20th century.
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Ere the Sun rises
7d ago
Actual "cries out in pain even as he strikes you", Israel has been belligerent against everyone in the region, stole nuclear technology and illegally acquired nukes, manipulated US into instituting regime in several countries in the region, has clearly been targeting the Iranian regime with war for decades, has now started two wars with surprise attacks. And we STILL have to suffer the "the Joos are just scapegoats" scthick.
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Ere the Sun rises
10d ago
What a lame manifesto honestly.
Note that in some ways the racists of slavery or Jim Crow days were perhaps less racist than the current racists.
Probably not Jim Crow, but slavery in the United States had a sincere paternalistic dimension, and that social dynamic no longer exists. Slave Owners actually did have a social responsibility for their slaves. Whites today do not have a similar social burden because blacks have equal rights. Social Justice rhetoric tries to infuse the paternalistic social burden onto whites even in the state of equal rights, through racial guilt and scapegoating whites as the cause of persistent dysfunction in the black community, but that's what modern racists reject.
It's not because they are more hateful per se, it's a totally different social dynamic and Whites no longer have a duty to uphold in that dynamic.
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Ere the Sun rises
13d ago
He was investigated and subpoenaed in front of Congress.
"Organizing public events" makes you a fed, how does that make sense? He's trying to engage in politics under really difficult circumstances.
How is Fuentes "in the good graces of the SPLC"? Do you just say stuff with no evidence whatsoever?
Nick Fuentes was also like 18 during Charlottesville and people still claim he was paid by the SPLC, is this an op or something? Do people making these claims seriously believe them? I seriously doubt BAP etc. actually believes it, just spreading disinfo to help the SPLC's mission.
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Ere the Sun rises
13d ago
Nobody was charged under similar circumstances, Fuente's circumstances are different from everyone who was charged. If he went into the building and didn't get charged, ok suspicious, but people saying he is a fed because he wasn't charged like everyone else who stayed away from the building is absurd.
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Ere the Sun rises
13d ago
Nearly every single charge was for people who entered the Capitol itself or restricted areas directly around the building, he did not get close to the building.
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Ere the Sun rises
14d ago
My timeline on X is filled with the Bronze Age Pervert-type, for lack of better term the philosemitic Far Right, accusing figures and organizations on the Right like Nick Fuentes and Patriot Front of being funded by SPLC and essentially claiming that right-wing antisemitism is astroturfed.
These were the same people that fed-jacketed Nick Fuentes with no evidence as well.
Almost certainly, the informant is from one of the "White Nationalist 1.0" groups, like the Aryan Brotherhood or something. Basically the groups that the SPLC and ADL wish still represented far right-wing antisemitism.
So what's most interesting here is the indictment seems to be helping the SPLC's mission insofar as the Bronze Age Pervert Sphere is playing a supporting role in the SPLC's gayops to bad-jacket the antisemitic Right wing and claim it is an inorganic movement.
One dimension on the opposite end of the spectrum- it has lowered my anxiety about GPA and school-striverism that was so deterministic for the futures of my generation. I'm sure school performance will matter to an extent, but right now I am more hopeful they childhood-happy-max rather than GPA-anxiety-max whereas my generation had extremely strong incentives to resume-anxiety-max at a young age.
The entire purpose of that social system was signaling childhood talent. I don't think that stuff makes children better it was just a decent system for assessing quality.
I don't really see the irony, Truth and Reconciliation was instituted by Nelson Mandela and supporting Archbishops. It was a multi-racial covenant that tore apart the fabric of society and was motivated by a racial hostility that was called Truth and Reconciliation. In both cases not irony but the warcry of racially hostile fanatics intent on destroying civilization.
TBF I didn't know the exact definition of "kangaroo court" when I made that comment, my sense was that the term referred to the appropriation of the pomp and circumstance of law courts to enforce social narratives. But after reviewing the definition of the term I think I got it basically correct.
Apartheid was a racial conflict. Truth and Reconciliation was the codification of a particular social perspective of that racial conflict, and one which was in my view fundamentally hostile to white people and false and highly damaging. Much like it is in Canada today where they also call those initiatives Truth and Reconciliation.
It's interesting we look at history and the absurdity of Stalinist propaganda and think- "we would never fall for that! They call their blatant lies Truth, but that wouldn't work on us!" and unfortunately it does.
I do think unequivocally the association of Truth and Reconciliation with the Halo Covenant is a social critique of that racial conflict from a right-wing perspective. There's not really a coherent alternative explanation, there's a reason the writer associated the Covenant with Truth and Reconciliation, particularly in the context of an alliance of Aliens fighting a race war against Humans. And Truth and Reconciliation destroyed the Human colony at Reach, didn't they...
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Ere the Sun rises
24d ago
I'm not surprised that someone who is Jew-obsessed sees Jews in every piece of media
I correctly inferred the symbolic meaning of the word "Covenant" not that it's cleverly coded or anything. Wikipedia verifies the interpretation for what that's worth.
The "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" was essentially the post-apartheid kangaroo courts. Pretty interesting for Halo to symbolically associate that with the Covenant.
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Ere the Sun rises
25d ago
It's common across all scifi-mediums for symbolic representation of racial struggle to be depicted as relations between alien species rather than tension among the actual human races of the actors within-species. This was true for Star Trek as well.
Halo is fascist because it depicts racial struggle, an actual race war, and celebrates the heroism of the warrior who saves the world. It pits the pagan-coded Spartan against the Abrahamic-coded Covenant.
The Humans in Halo are not at war with The Covenant because they wanted to "Purge The Xenos!" they are at war because the The Covenant attacked them first.
They are at war because the Covenant is a coalition of aliens fighting a Holy Race War against humans! And they apparently name their capital ships after racial justice courts!
A true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, he fights because he loves what is behind.
Well one thing is fascists tend to love their race, which would be represented by Master Chief: racial self-defense against alien hostility. Halo pulls off the "fight for your race" vibe which people just love naturally as much as they will deny it.
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Ere the Sun rises
25d ago
Truth and Reconciliation being the name of the Covenant ship you attack in Halo 1 is pretty on the nose though looking back and actually making a criticism of socio-religious cults destroying social fabric. The Truth and Reconciliation was present at the fall of the Reach! That would have been written just a few years after the real TRC even though as kids that certainly didn't come to the mind of me or any of my friends.
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Ere the Sun rises
25d ago
Yeah I thought about calling out Helldivers II even though I've never played it. My understanding is it's more of a Starship Troopers phenomenon where the writers were trying to subvert the "xenophobic warrior-ethos" but they accidentally made it too cool so that players unironically like it. So I would call that more of a subversion that backfired, in contrast with the sincerity of Halo 1.
Or maybe, most likely of all, they were trying to cash-in on that pulse while having plausible deniability!
Halo 1 (don't remember the sequels as much) is also a fundamentally fascist story. A white-coded "Spartan" single-handedly fights off the aliens intent on destroying the universe at the behest of their superstitious foreign cult. The Flood actually infect the humans like a disease. The xenophobia is celebrated and written into the script, with the Oorah US military as the good guys mercilessly slaughtering thousands of aliens.
I understand the sequels try to add more nuance into the politics of the aliens, but a lot of the sincerity of Halo 1 is the unapologetic roleplaying of a xenophobic warrior-ethos that you won't find in modern games. Wolfenstein of course is an anti-fascist story.
Interestingly the main enemy of Halo 1 is the "Covenant", so it is indeed subversive but subversive in a totally different vector than you see in modern games. Destroy the Covenant to save Civilization from the Aliens looking to destroy it!
Edit: Went a little more into the meaning of the Covenant:
- Formed around 852 BC by the Prophet (San'Shyuum) and Elite (Sangheili) species, they united to worship the Forerunners.
- "Holy" War against Humanity: They call themselves a covenant because they consider themselves chosen, while viewing humanity as a blight upon their religion.
- Perception of Humans: The Covenant calls humanity "Demon" or "reclaimers" and tries to destroy them because humans are in fact the true inheritors of Forerunner technology, a truth that would destroy the Covenant's religious foundations.
Inb4 "Joo obsessed":
From Wikipedia:
The Covenant serve as one of a number of religious allusions in Halo. Their name refers to sacred agreements between the people of Israel and their God in Jewish and Christian tradition, and could be used to indicate the attitude of superiority complex the aliens have to the inferior and sacrilegious humans. The Covenant's ships bear names referring to elements of Judeo-Christian religion.[14] A review of religions and religious material in video games noted that the Covenant's invented religion had many similarities to those in similar games, and would likely be called a cult in the real world.[15] The thematic parallels of religious zealots fighting an American military metaphor was not lost on Microsoft's content review team, who forced a name change of the holy warrior "Dervish" to Arbiter before the release of Halo 2
So my revisiting of the symbols in Halo 1 with a more mature perspective was on-point before finding verification of that interpretation.
But yeah, one of the biggest set pieces of Halo 1 is the Covenant ship Truth and Reconciliation in which you infiltrate and kill them all! It was subversive but from the opposite angle of Wolfenstein.
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Ere the Sun rises
27d ago
Or they are trying to get ahead of something that is about to break, and the timing with the ceasefire is not a coincidence- it's to put pressure on Trump.
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Ere the Sun rises
28d ago
Ceasefire is on the rocks, in the most predictable development ever Israel vastly escalated the bombing of Beirut claiming that a ceasefire with Lebanon was not included, despite Iran's claims. Israel is sabotaging the ceasefire to keep the war going. USG must bring Israel to heel, finally, there's no other option. Or else the ceasefire is dead.
The Neolithic Farmers spread into the both Caucasus and Europe, the G2a Early European Farmer haplogroup is concentrated in both Sardinia and the Caucasus region.
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