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Ere the Sun rises
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Would you describe the systematic murder of three million Jews as the holocaust not happening?
You misunderstand me. It is claimed ~3 million Jews were killed inside gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. But I am not acknowledging that 3 million Jews were killed by other means. I am simply saying that if you take away the Gas Chamber story, you are left with no alternative explanation for the mortality of 3 million Jews. Did they die in the Ghettos? Did they die at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen? Did they die in the concentration camps? The evidence affirmatively refutes any plausible alternative explanation for that level of mortality by German hands. This is why the gas chamber story is so important, and they can never dispense with it without giving up the narrative entirely. Without it, there is no explanation for how the Germans allegedly killed so many Jews.
So let's say I dispense with the extermination camp narrative, does that mean I acknowledge 3 million Jews died? No. I've already repeatedly described my position, without contention, that census differentials are not a reliable estimate of mortality, in the general case but especially in this cause. I agree with Ryan Faulk's suggestion:
Another possibility is what I call “throw the issue out the window”, which is that global Jewish population was simply NEVER known, and population estimates are all just constructions aimed at a pre-determined number. This could be because a great percentage of Jews simply don’t identify as such, or that Jews all along have been maybe double all of these numbers, but simply don’t register in any way. I.e. the actual Jewish population is an impossible enigma. If this is the case, then any claimed decline or rise in this impossible to measure population means nothing.
I think this is closer to the truth, the global Jewish population estimate is today and always has been enigmatic and politically-loaded. It is not a reliable measurement of mortality, in particular given the pattern of measurement revisions that so happen to correlate with utility to the Holocaust narrative.
If you say elsewhere in the Soviet Union Soviet records don't show that and you can go hunt in the former Soviet Union all you want you won't find them.
Yeah, that's actually kind of my point, that this whole fucking sensational story relies entirely on Soviet investigators and records. Do you think that's a reliable basis for confidence in this narrative of millions of Jews being gassed inside shower rooms?
The Germans loudly and often declared the war in the East a racial war and one of ethnic cleansing and conflict. Given that such wars almost always involve genocide and mass killing. And given the Germans were willing to implement things like murder the Polish intelligentsia to destroy them as a nation, implement the hunger plan, suspend the laws of war in the Soviet Union and plan out stuff like general plan Ost. Which explicitly involved settlement and ethnic cleansing. Why would you expect them to spare the Jews especially because the Jews of the Pale just vanished after the Germans swept over them.
There's a lot of claims here so I'll deal with them in turn:
- It was a racial war, even the Allies treated it as that. That is how we have the Holocaust Narrative to begin with. Racial warfare, and the gas chamber narrative is a figment of racial warfare. So they were not wrong, both sides correctly interpreted it as such, and acknowledging that doesn't bring us closer to the truth of the Holocaust. Rather it explains the existence of the narrative even though it's false.
- The alleged German extermination plan and operation is entirely unique. You can claim there are other genocides, but the Holocaust claims that the Germans engineered factories for killing Jews. That is not an exaggeration, that is the fundamental "extermination camp" claim. So even accepting the basic fact that the Germans (accurately) assessed this as a racial conflict, the claim they engaged in the same behavior as belligerents throughout history is false. The alleged "extermination camps" stand head and shoulder above anything else in human history, they are outliers, which is why they shock our senses. Being outliers though, that makes them a priori more likely to be fictional which they are, like the notorious WWI accusations of German corpse facotories that are nearly identical to the claimed "extermination camps."
And given the Germans were willing to implement things like murder the Polish intelligentsia to destroy them as a nation
Who was it that perpetrated the Katyn Massacre? When the Germans conquered this area of Poland and uncovered the alleged mass graves, what they did was excavate the mass graves and performed autopsies to determine cause of death and attempted to identify victims. They released American POWs to observe the investigation to report on its integrity, and they invited international observers from neutral nations. Essentially, they did everything the Soviets/Poles did not do when claiming that millions of Jews were gassed inside shower rooms.
And guess what?
The Soviet Prosecution still claimed that the Katyn Massacre was carried out by the Germans at Nuremberg, bundled with the accusation that they gassed millions of Jews inside shower rooms. I do not make this point to deny the Germans murdered Poles, but to deny that this war implies some prior likelihood for the Germans coming up with some scheme to engineer Death Factories in which they exterminated millions of Jews inside Shower Rooms. That was wartime atrocity propaganda. The Soviets were moreso intent on destroying Polish nationalism to a vastly greater extent than the Germans.
implement the hunger plan
There was no hunger plan, what people call the "hunger plan" was an assessment that feeding the German army would leave insufficient food for conquered Slavs, which was accurate. It was not a plan, it was an accurate projection of the prevailing situation, that it was impossible to feed the German army and the occupied locals given wartime scarcity.
general plan Ost. Which explicitly involved settlement and ethnic cleansing
Also vastly overstated, no different than citing a random Israeli minister who talks about colonizing the Sinai. There were many variations of the post-war plan for the east, none of them were confirmed because the Germans lost the war, and the most salacious variations were viewed as unrealistic even at the time. The Germans were ethnically cleansed after the war, 12 to 14 million but some estimates to 16.5 million were ethnically cleansed. I don't say this to justify German colonization plans, but to point out that such plans do not lend credence to a scheme to gas millions of Jews inside gas chambers disguised as shower rooms..
I've already explained that differentiating census data across years is only a theoretical approximation of mortality due to measurement error. And in the case of estimates of Jewish population, it seems the errors were in opposite directions pre-war and post-war, which is highly convenient for the narrative they rely on for their global status.
Did you know that the 2020 census shows an 8.6% decline in White people between 2010 and 2020? I don't mean as a proportional representation, I mean those people simply disappeared. Where did they go? Were they lured into bagel shops in Brooklyn and murdered in the tunnels under Chabad?
The problem with using these estimates for mortality is that it precludes the existence of measurement error, in particular in the cases where measurement error is incentivized by wartime narratives which it is in this case.
You know this isn't the mainstream narrative right? Which hold that more than half of the Jews killed died from overwork or more likely massacred in a muddy field in Eastern Europe by the Einsatzgruppen. Even if you proved that Auschwitz was entirely a myth you'd still half to deal with the missing Jews and the state sanctioned death squads. Which how do you deal with them do you think the Einsatzgruppen were a real thing and if so what were there purpose?
Yes I do, it is claimed approximately 3 million Jews were killed inside gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. So the vaunted 6 million still has another 3 million to account for. The Einsatzgruppen were real, their purpose was anti-partisan measures.
The fundamental problem is, let's say I'm correct and the "Gas chambers disguised as shower rooms" never existed. So where did 6 million deaths come from? When did they die? Where? That's not a rhetorical question, if you remove the gas chamber story then trying to tally nearly that degree of mortality is simply impossible given existing evidence. Did millions die in the ghettos? No evidence. Did millions die by the Einsatzgruppen? No evidence. If you take away the gas chamber story, there is no alternative explanation for when, where, or how those Jews were supposed to have been killed. If you disagree, I challenge you to present an alterative theory to where 6 millions Jews were supposed to have died and when. That's why the gas chamber story is clung to so dearly, there is no alternative explanation for where those ~3 million theoretical Jews were supposed to have died, and the "six million" symbolic figure is inextricable with the gas chamber story.
Bit of funny lore on that front. Be me:
- Have traditional conservative upbringing/perception of Jews
- Watched a couple Ryan Faulk (Alternative Hypothesis) videos on HBD
- Start getting red-pilled on HBD
- See, for the first time ever in the wild on unrelated subreddit, some Reddit user called "TrannyPornO" who defends HBD in the discussion thread, visit his profile
- He poasts on some subreddit called "TheMotte", how I arrived at TheMotte
- AltHype stops posting on YouTube because of the ascension of the YouTube censorship regime
- AltHype posts to BitChute to avoid getting his account banned
- I go to BitChute to watch AltHype videos
- I see Chemistry of Auschwitz in sidebar
- lol it's Covid let's see what the Holocaust Denier Flat Earthers have to say
- Don't understand a lot of it, am not remotely convinced, but there is one easily digestible argument, which is that all of the extant blueprints of Krema I in Auschwitz (the one shown on tour to tourists) label it as a morgue and they all through the years document a swinging door leading to the furnaces, which makes sense for a morgue but no sense for a gas chamber.
- Hmmm I wonder what the mainstream response to this is, it sounds like a good argument but I'm sure there's a good refutation
- Realize there is no refutation, they just engage in authoritarian tactics to absolve themselves from even feeling the need to respond to criticisms like this because those arguments are made by Holocaust Deniers - scum of the earth and not worthy of acknowledgment by our credentialed academics
- Reminds me of my own HBD awarness arc in which the established academics just dig into their narrative and denounce valid criticisms that question prevailing dogma
- Sufficiently gaslit into diving deep into the topic because I don't know what's true
- MFW Revisionists are right after reviewing essentially all the arguments and counter-arguments (this part takes years honestly)
It is fair to say honestly that most Holocaust deniers, especially the Denier repoasters on Twitter, are antisemites who use Denial as a bludgeon. I think I am rare in that investigating this topic was my own red-pill on broader Jewish Question, so-to-speak, the reason I spent so much time investigating it is because I was resistant to Revisionist conclusions. And then my change in opinion on that topic also led to questioning many other institutional norms, prevailing cultural criticisms, and finding common patterns and I share my thinking here on this forum. The end, true story. My Holocaust Denial came before my (alleged) Antisemtism, I don't think there are many such cases.
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Ere the Sun rises
17hr ago
Ah, you claim that something is indisputable while simultaneously asserting you don't want to go into the weeds and therefore I am not allowed to contest your false claims.
It is disputable, if you tell me something is indisputable but it's actually false, I'm going to contest it despite your protestation.
Many evacuated into the Soviet Union ahead of the German advance. Many were deported into Russia by the Soviet Union themselves and likely died there or assimilated. Many did die directly by the Germans or general wartime conditions, the mortality on Poland in general was extremely high, for Poles as well. Many want to Israel, or the United States.
But if you are saying they were all gassed in shower rooms at a precisely known location, then we can review the evidence for that claim and find the weight of the evidence does not remotely justify confidence in those sensational and extremely unusual claims.
But also, like I just said in my other comment the methodology of relying on sequences of census data to assert an indisputable level of mortality is fundamentally flawed in and of itself. Pre-war estimates were revised upwards post-hoc, and post-war estimates were revised downwards post-hoc, and the only estimate that has never been revised is the 1945 estimate. So every single post-hoc revision of those estimates has served to increase the theoretical mortality of that period, coincidentally.
There were millions of European Jews who vanished during WWII - that part is indisputable.
It is absolutely disputable given the argument relies on subtracting a sequence of highly unreliable population estimates. Ryan Faulk (AKA the Alternative Hypothesis) had an excellent article contending with those censuses:
- The pre-war population estimates were revised upwards after the fact
- The post-war population estimates were revised downwards decades after the fact
- The 1945 survey was the only one not revised despite the fact it would have been the most unreliable survey due to the chaotic immediate postwar period with refugees flooding from every direction.
So all of the historical revisions of Jewish population in Europe have worked to inflate the theoretical death toll of the wartime period- except the 1945 census, they totally got that one right apparently despite the fact it would have been the most unreliable one of all.
It is especially disputable give there is no list of names associated with the claimed 2 million victims of those camps, they are anonymous. Imagine filing a missing person's report for someone who is anonymous, and then demanding the cops find the missing anonymous person- no name, no description, nothing. That is what the Holocaust does times 2 million. The reason there is no list of victim identifications, which would be evidence to prove that people were actually killed there, is because it didn't happen. It is also one of the reasons that Revisionists point out that the ban on any scientific investigation of those grounds is essentially spoliation. If these really were anonymous victims then excavating the mass graves in order to attempt to identify the victims would be SOP. But not only has that not ever happened, not a single mass grave on these sites alleged to contain the remains of two million people has ever been excavated (if they were real they would be the largest mass graves in human history, by far - AKA outliers), Jewish authorities forbid it.
Anonymous victims, no documentary evidence, no physical evidence, no contemporary witness accounts, no contemporary clandestine reports of the alleged cremation operation which would have been clearly visible in the sky to every single person from Warsaw to Lublin, no bodies, no mass graves. The exact same claims made at several other camps are proven to have been false. The story itself is absurd:
900,000 Jews were tricked into walking inside gas chambers on the pretext of taking a shower, then they were gassed with carbon monoxide from a captured Soviet tank engine- a highly unusual and exotic killing method that so happens to resemble ubiquitous delousing procedures. Then they were buried. Then they were unburied and all cremated on makeshift open-air pyres over the course of like 120 days (no less than 5,000 every single day in camps that did not have state-of-the art crematoria like the concentration camps). And then they were all reburied. And all of this escaped any documentary trace. Excavation to scientifically analyze what actually happened is forbidden.
When the Kamloops Children's Mass Graves hoax broke in the news media, I immediately predicted that the Tribes would forbid excavation of those alleged mass graves in order to protect the lie (which is exactly what has happened since, the tribal leaders give the exact same reasoning as the Jews for forbidding excavation to investigate the claim). I predicted that because it pattern-matches to exactly what the Jews did at Treblinka and the other camps. They claimed massively inflated death tolls on the basis of extremely flimsy hearsay and witness testimony and forbade any manner of scientific investigation that any rational person would expect for a crime of this magnitude.
None of us believe the Holocaust because of the evidence presented for those crimes. We believe it because we watched Steven Spielberg growing up, and as children were shown horrific footage of typhus victims and victims of Allied bombings at the Western camps which aren't even the camps that have the real alleged Holocaust mass graves that have never been excavated.
What does "account for all the missing Jews" even mean? If you claim 800,000 people were murdered at a precisely known location, but there's no documentary or physical evidence for the claim, it falls apart.
There isn't even a list of names or anything of those alleged 800,000 victims, they are anonymous, which is another dubious aspect of the claim.
Anonymous victims, no documentary evidence for the event, no physical evidence for the event, no bodies or mass graves, no contemporary witness account of the event. Impossible claims of 5,000 people being cremated every single day on primitive outdoor cremations with not a single observation of that operation, the smoke of which would have been clearly visible from Warsaw and even Lublin. No reports from the Polish underground of such an operation who were spying in the area.
Edit: On top of that Revisionists have already proven the Extermination camp narrative and gas chamber narrative was a lie at Majdanek. So there is already precedent for Soviet-Polish investigators lying or being wrong about such an operation at other camps in Poland.
And likewise homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms were initially claimed at the Western camps but disproven after investigation. So what are the chances that all of these claims were proven false at the Western camps and Majdanek, but then they actually happened at Treblinka?
The claim was made in both the West and East camps. The West camps were investigated and the claim was disproven. The East camps were "investigated" by the Soviets and they did not allow Western observers to participate in the investigation. They modified structures post-war and claimed they were original like the gas chamber shown on tour in Auschwitz.
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1d ago
It's covered in his own work which he stands by. There's no physical evidence for ~2 million people being killed in those locations, there's never been an excavation of a single mass grave in any of those camps. There's no documentary evidence or physical evidence or contemporary witness accounts justifying those claims. It all comes from after-the-fact and highly contradictory testimony.
You can't just leave something like Revisionism as a high-profile figure, if you want to quit you have to denounce your previous views even if it's insincere to make a clean break and that was his attempt to do so, he said as much.
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1d ago
You just jumped from "was there an organised attempt to kill all the Jews?" to "was there a specific individual document that said to kill all the Jews?"
There was neither an organized attempt to kill all the Jews nor any orders or written plans to do so. That is made-up propaganda. The lack of any documents is very strong evidence that nothing of the sort was ever organized, and the lack of documents, plans, or written orders for some alleged initiative to kill all the Jews is very well-known.
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2d ago
But in most places, definitely including here on the Motte, you can map with nearly 100% consistency someone who is "critical of Israel" or "anti-Zionist" to "really hates Jews." ...
Almost nobody is actually criticizing Israel because they think the Israelis should negotiate differently or if they just did this or that they could have peace. There are no circumstances in which Israel will ever be "okay" with them. They just hate Jews. Simple as.
So in your world there is basically nobody who is critical of Israel or Jews because of the things Israel or Jews do- they just hate Jews. Simple as.
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2d ago
The problem I have with Jared Kushner is not ipso facto that he is loyal to his own ethnostate, the problem I have is he undermines my country for the benefit of that foreign country while he ostensibly represents us in extremely important matters with enormous consequences.
The problem I have with Israel is not ipso facto that it is laser-focused on the well-being and thriving of Jews, the problem I have is how that operatively conflicts with my own political interests and weakens my country from within.
There's no contradiction in complaining about people working against my interests while also recognizing the elements that make it so effective and seeking to adopt them.
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2d ago
I think it is highly necessary for White people to start behaving more like Jews, in important respects.
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2d ago
Don't really know what I am evading. Going back to the very first comment, all I was doing was disputing Amadan's claim that nearly all criticism of Zionism is derived from a pre-existing hatred of Jews for no reason. Aamadan's comment implied no space for people's perception of Jews to be influenced by the things Jews do. It's a clear argument attributing responsibility to Jews for the way people perceive them, including the negative perceptions that are basically all true.
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2d ago
The Jewish Lobby, the ADL, the ultra-warmongering Zionists in our media and our government like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, AIPAC, Israel, would you acknowledge that is all Jewish behavior? Maybe the problem people have with Jews is caused by the things they do?
Eric Hunt left Revisionism for a bunch of reasons, internal politics of the movements and such. It's a pretty tough job being a high-profile Revisionist, enormous pressure with little or no pay.
But in the past couple years Hunt has disavowed that article and he is a Revisionist again and he stands by his content, including that video I posted.
Keep in mind he was doing this when nobody else was talking about it, and YouTube basically increased their censorship solely because of Eric Hunt, his content was the very first victim of a high-censorship YouTube. Now that a lot of people on X and such talk about it he's found more satisfaction in the impact of his work. Nick Fuentes cited that video I linked by Hunt as being influential on Nick.
So he's a Revisionist and he stands by that work and he takes credit for the proliferation of Revisionism which he should, he did great work.
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2d ago
But "the Holocaust" - a concerted effort to exterminate Jews - happened
No it did not. There has famously never been any written document or order found demonstrating a concerted effort to exterminate all the Jews. Such an order never existed and that was not the German policy.
Some Jews were killed definitely in reprisals etc. But there was no "extermination plan" as claimed, that is a lie as much as the gas chamber story.
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2d ago
If you want an example of someone who is "critical of Jews but not a Jew hater" then tell me why they are "critical of Jews." That's what I'm asking you for.
They are critical of Jews because those criticisms of Jews are true, important, and necessary.
I've lived my entire life surrounded by criticism of White culture, identity, and religion, only I never called those people "White-Haters" I called them Professor and I watched their movies and read their books. Jews engage in constant, sharp criticism of White culture, religion, and identity. Some of it is true, a lot of it is false. Maybe it's because I grew up surrounded by it that I'm not inclined to prosecute someone as a "White-hater" for engaging in a criticism of White people, I'm happy to engage the argument rather than litigate emotionally-loaded labels.
But growing up has also made me aware of the state of affairs in which Jews, through all political and cultural institutions they exercise influence, incessantly engage in cultural criticism of White culture and identity while screaming "Jew hater!" to any White person who reciprocates criticism of Jewish culture and identity.
I think I've demonstrated the point, you were unable to identify anyone who engages in criticism of Jewish culture and identity to the extent that thousands of renowned Jews have engaged in criticism of White culture and identity throughout all our cultural institutions- without the baggage of being accused of Jew Hater by the Jewish NGOs that make this sort of determination. Your label does reduce to- anyone who engages in criticism of Jews, but you reserve no label for Jews who engage in criticism of white identity, history, and culture.
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2d ago
But wait, George Wallace is not even an example of what I am asking for. I asked you for anyone who is critical of Jews but not a "Jew Hater" in your mind or in the minds of the Jewish NGOs that determine this sort of thing. This is an important question, because if you deny my claim that "Jew Hater" or "Antisemite" is a slur for people who are critical of Jews, you ought to be able to identify people who are critical of Jews but with the faith of being spared that accusation. So, where are they?
The fact is, it is a slur meant to destroy the reputation of anybody who gets too close to the truth on those questions. That's what it's for, that's what you're using it for. It's a consensus-enforcement mechanism. Actual "hatred" does not play into it, it's a slur.
Is there a meaningful difference?
I don't know, is there a meaningful difference between an antisemite and someone who "hates Jews" in your mind? Is it possible to be antisemitic and not hates Jews?
Who are people who are critical of Jews but are not "people who hate Jews" in your mind, who are not fully or partially Jewish themselves? Like Pat Buchanan probably fits in that zone, even though he has been called antisemitic plenty despite watering down his critique to desperately avoid that accusation.
The whole thing really is just a slur for people who criticize Jewish behavior, even if it's rational and necessary.
Edit: Damn, ADL says Buchanan is a Jew-hater so I guess he doesn't count. Anyone else? Bueller? Or is "Jew Hater" really just a slur for people who engage in criticism of Jews after all?
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2d ago
the Holocaust was a good thing, to the extent he admits it happened
It didn't happen though. How could I think it was a good thing and it didn't happen?
I don't think it's a good thing that millions of Jews were tricked into walking inside gas chambers that were disguised as shower rooms, it is something that simply never happened.
My only question is why don't you just use "Antisemite", did that lose its luster so "Jew Hater" is the new word for it? It's more emotionally loaded I suppose which is the only reason you invoke it.
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2d ago
What I'm saying is "Jew-hater" is a fair accusation
No, it's an inquisition. You want me to qualify my criticisms in a way that gives deference to Jews, touts Jewish friends, denounces "hatred" whatever the fuck that means, and ultimately empowers the accusation even in the act of denial. This is proven by the fact that most of the replies to your initial comment assured you that they are not Jew-Haters despite their opinion on current events. I am not responding to your inquisition, I reject it.
Have I ever called Greenblatt a "White-Hater"? Do I think Greenblatt just hates every single white person he knows, has no White friends, and every time he meets a White person Greenblatt secretly wishes he could kill him? Obviously I think there's much more nuance to his identity and political perspective, emotional disposition towards Gentiles, in spite of the fact it is clearly oppositional to me, but you will never accept that my disposition is more similar to Greenblatt but on the other side of the conflict than it is to the cartoon villain you have in your head.
I couldn't imagine having a discussion with him and demanding that he either affirms or denies he's a White-Hater, and not only because such an accusation lacks any currency unlike the accusation of being a Jew-Hater. It's bullshit, but you have to resort to those tactics because there is so much actual substance and implications to the criticisms being made you feel the need to play these stupid games I reject.
Not going in your funhouse, sorry- "I have Jewish friends pls don't call me that name!!!" I reject the power of your slur. It's retarded honestly and more retarded than ever given the state of the world and how relevant the criticisms I have made on this forum have proven to be. Calling everybody who criticizes Jews for the consequences of their own behavior "Jew Haters" is losing currency by the hour, you just look ridiculous at this point to be honest.
Poor Jews, so put-upon for no reason, everybody hates them for no reason, and when people criticize them it's almost always because they hate them for no reason. Antisemitism is the fault of everybody in the world except Jews. And if you think otherwise I am going to call you a Jew Hater. Enjoy the last days of that garbage holding any water!
No, both the "you are an X hater" are only slurs, like calling someone a heretic in Old Salem. I don't engage in affirmation or denial, I reject the tired playbook of trying to jacket someone with an -ist or an -ism or an x-hater. My opinions on Jews are contained in the sum of my writings, if you want to call me a Jew Hater go ahead it's not something I'm going to contend with, you may as well call me a Racist or a Sinner or a Heretic, it's all the same thing to me.
I reject your notions so totally that I'm not going in your little funhouse to argue I shouldn't meet your definition of Jew-hater, please sir don't call me a Jew-Hater I swear I am not! Please! Not playing that game and am never going to, I reject it, it's nothing more than a cheap slur for building consensus that Antisemitism is caused by everything under the sun except for the behavior of Jews.
The Soviets jacketed exaggerated warcimes on the Germans to divert attention from their own war crimes. The chief Soviet prosecutor at Nuremberg was a prominent judge in the Stalinist show-trials, this was his speciality. But I agree it's not a sufficient story because the USSR was not really that interested in generating this persistent narrative of Jewish victimhood. The Jews in the United States took that football and accelerated the cultural impact of the Holocaust narrative starting in the 1960s. Really the whole thing is the conjugation of the efforts of Hollywood and the apparatus of Stalinist propaganda. Unlike most historical events that peak in the public consciousness in the immediate aftermath and fade over time, I wouldn't peg the peak of Holocaust consciousness until the 1990s at least. That wasn't caused by the USSR that was caused by Jews in the United States.
The firebombing of civilian population centers, the nuclear attacks on Japan, the rape of Berlin by Soviet troops. Do you know that the Germans fielded the largest foreign volunteer army in history consisting of Slavs desperate to fight against the Soviets? The notion that the Allies fought in a more "civilized manner" is entirely downstream from the Gas Chamber and Extermination Camp accusations. The Western Allies demanded unconditional surrender, a barbaric and murderous war aim that Hitler did not even aspire for. Your narrative fundamentally relies on the Holocaust, because without it the entire WW-II narrative you have in your head falls apart.
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