SkookumTree
2yr ago
I mean...are you a tall dude that looks like he could be a male model? Are you a multimillionaire with yacht pics? Famous? Or...are you okay with women twice your weight? If this guy ain't conventionally attractive he needs a million a year and enough charisma for a career in politics plus the body of a Greek God, otherwise he's decidin' where he wants the ambulances.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
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Be fit. Ideally, you'd look like a Greek God.
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Be charismatic. Ideally, charismatic enough for a career in politics.
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Make a million a year or more.
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Have time for her.
If you're short (5'4" or less) or, God help you, autistic, this is what it takes. Otherwise, you're going to be deciding where you want the ambulances and be fishing in some really shitty ponds.
Complicated rules around creepiness are features, not bugs, designed to paralyze the unattractive or get them ostracized for daring to want sex or relationships.
For what it is worth, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
She could move to Silicon Valley and easily get a fit millionaire; plenty of fit millionaire virgins out there.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
I mean...not normal, but if she's not morbidly obese it's likely to be something like alcoholism or drug abuse or yes, getting stabbed. Like...short dudes pick the least bad option. It's not that getting stabbed is the expected thing...but it's definitely on the table, where does he want the ambulances?
Is our pint-sized hero pulling down close to a million a year? Does he have a shot at political office?
SkookumTree
2yr ago
5'4" men are either remarkable, very lucky, or they decide where they want the ambulances. I've only once seen a 5'4" man with a woman that was sane and not morbidly obese. He was a future neurosurgeon with enough charisma for a career in politics.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
For instance I think that everybody involved in transitioning kids is taking part in great evil
I would call it medical malpractice. Perhaps criminally negligent malpractice.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Yeah. I would suspect that "catch and flog/beat petty criminals" might be it, or at least part of it.
I mean. In 1955, in a lot of cities? A White cop could basically get away with murdering that Black 13-year-old. A dropped gun, a statement that the kid had pulled it, and nobody really asks any questions. I'll grant that some of this might have been cops covering up a tragic, honest mistake, of the "I confused a wallet for a pistol" variety, but a hell of a lot was just shooting fleeing people in the back or shooting them for contempt of cop.
Nice, liberal people want their violence hidden; if it just so happens that 13-year-old juvenile delinquents are sometimes never seen or heard from again, and there is a strong suspicion that it is the local police department doing it...people can unfortunately look the other way. And that's a damn shame: frustrated cops as judge, jury, and executioner.
Like. Someone is going to want to do something about this problem. The prison-industrial complex is expensive; unlike slavery, a prisoner can't make enough off of making license plates (or whatever it is they have them doing) to pay for what it costs to keep him locked up. Bullets are unfortunately cheap.
Someone mentioned farm labor, and that seems like it wouldn't be a bad idea either. Certainly not if they're with migrant farm workers (instead of other juvenile delinquents). Three months picking strawberries because you carjacked some dude at 13 might get you to straighten up.
EDIT: To be clear, I do not think that extrajudicial killings of criminals are at all a good idea. Nice, liberal people don't like violence, but if it must happen they want it well-hidden; they'd be very much against said extrajudicial killings but could look the other way most of the time, I think. Most of us would've been good Germans. I'll stand by what I think cops could've gotten away with in 1955.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
I'm saying that in the most charitable interpretation of the situation, these teenagers still handled the situation poorly. And it only gets worse from there.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
That could work - it's basically a short term at hard labor. This being said, there are perverse incentives galore: this shit's profitable. Now you've got not only budding thugs and gangsters but also some poor sap that got busted for shoplifting caught up in this dragnet. As long as they're not working them too hard, giving them enough food and water...as long as it's not some kind of troubled-teen hellhole like Holes with less water and more beatings, it sounds like a good idea. Ideally, the government (and the farmers) would barely break even on the scheme.
I wonder what happened to the petty criminals of our grandfathers' time, who were given the choice between jail and the Army...provided they didn't see combat, were they better off?
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Interesting. Do you know how, say, an English or Australian policeman would handle Bad Leroy Brown, the local drug kingpin?
SkookumTree
2yr ago
You need a lot of dudes to do it. Three is too few. You want six to eight guys. It’s best if they’re not scrawny office workers, but they don’t need to be built like the Rock.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
What, exactly, are you alluding to?
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Agree with the public beatings. Have medical professionals see if the individual in question is able to endure it: it would suck to have a criminal with brittle bones or something.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
I know that this sounds barbaric, but perhaps we could use something like flogging for these kids. Yes, it would have an unfortunate resemblance to slavery. Yes, it might leave marks, but figuring out how to beat someone or cause them pain without scarring them isn’t a terribly hard thing to do.
It also sounds like it might be a good idea to do this to adults for a first-time misdemeanor offense, maybe some minor felonies. Maybe expunge the whole thing from the record after a few years of good conduct.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Steal? No, the best case scenario is an honest misunderstanding where the woman thought it was her bike, but it was one of the dudes' bikes.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
I talk about being unattractive. My physical appearance is...20th percentile, I'd say. Not Quasimodo, but not at all good. Add autism to that, and it's not looking good at all. I will contend that autism functions in more or less the same way as physical deformity or ugliness. Someone could watch me talking with my friends and form a durable opinion on my awkwardness after just a couple seconds. A single still photo would be enough.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Yeah. I assumed that 2rafa was a dude. This being said... how would YOU feel in that situation, assuming you're a man? Like. At best these guys aren't handling this situation well, at worst it's strongarm robbery.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
I mean. I've only dabbled in martial arts as a teenager. I might've earned a stripe or two on my white belt; I'm no badass martial artist. I've been choked out a few times doing BJJ. I was 5'6" and 130, and most of the guys were bigger and stronger. But when you get choked out by someone who knows what they're doing, you black out and go limp. After that, the other guy lets you go.
This was a case of a wild dude against a guy who didn't really know what he was doing. Also, three guys is kind of too few to restrain a man like that without risking seriously injuring or killing the other guy...when I was on the psych ER we generally wanted the ratio to be more like six or eight to one.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
It's the same as wanting sex work to be a valid legal career, but not wanting sex work to be treated as any other work, like being included in public works programs.
Consider something like work as a mercenary for, say, Blackwater; although the parallels aren't exact, it's an interesting thought. As far as I know, it's legal to be a Blackwater mercenary.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
one tale I read was basically Jackie Robinson for hetero white women
Can you link me that tale?
SkookumTree
2yr ago
This is called 'winning' for the LGBT coalition.
San Francisco, 2022. A middle-class household.
Timmy: "Mom, Dad, I'm gay."
Mom and Dad: "We still love and support you. Do you need a ride to soccer practice?"
SkookumTree
2yr ago
Yeah. AB InBev could completely lose Bud Light and still remain a going concern. It'd be a nontrivial hit, and a victory for the Right...but I think they're too damn big for a boycott to take them out of business. Companies have made larger gaffes before and survived - like the CEO openly stating that their products were shit. The last time I'm aware of a boycott really hurting a company was the Civil Rights era. Maybe divestment in South Africa counts.
SkookumTree
2yr ago
she saw the one eBike on the rack and grabbed it even though it had already been reserved.
Let's give these guys the benefit of the doubt. As a man, I'd have put my hands up, told her that I'd cancel my reservation and the bike was hers. End of story, no confrontation. We'll talk, explain things, and if there's a chance for me to give ground (and not lose out on $1200 from an unreturned bike, I'm not that trusting) I'm taking it.
Brother, human sexuality is nasty, and I honestly think St. Paul had the right idea there.
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