SkookumTree
1yr ago
hockey has long had a culture of policing things that aren't quite illegal, but considered excessive via player-based enforcement in fights.
Cycling too, in some places - there are a lot of legal ways to be an asshole, even a dangerous asshole, in a bike race. Riders can also swerve and take each other out. So there's basically a gentlemen's agreement going in cycling.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Surviving the Hock will mean that I am no longer both disgusting and hypocritical for wanting a relationship.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Don't worry, I'm not descending into utter nihilism or insanity like our buddy Skook
I guess I've been summoned: would you say that I am insane, or just nihilistic as all hell? Like, the basic premise of the Hock cashes out to "if you're an unattractive person/dude, whether it's because fugly or autistic or physically disabled or whatever, your partners are probably gonna find you disgusting. So you're asking for an awful lot there from your partner, arguably for no good goddamn reason. You kind of suck and are hypocritical if you're not down to freely choose to suffer like a motherfucker for no good reason - you're asking the same of your partner."
Maybe the Hock doesn't make you some kind of Chad, but surviving it sure as hell freezes some of certain kinds of hypocrisy off of you, as well as being a test of physical and mental fortitude. The Hock, like shit like climbing Everest or Navy SEAL Hell Week, seems to be most heavily loaded for high conscientiousness and low neuroticism.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
I guess you might come to believe that you have something that approaches a moral duty to not offend people or to not do so inadvertently, and to be graceful and socially skilled. How you'd get there, IDK.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
If he cooked up anything that was hock like, he would definitely not have the same type of narcissistic entitlement. Supreme Gentlemen are already Supreme and so don't need to fucking Hockmaxx.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
The day I posted this, I ran five miles as training for the Hock.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
downgrade kidnapping if the victim ever went on business trips
That seems like the most central example...the kidnapper is at least presumably doing so for personal gain or ransom, but the stabber isn't trying to rob blood from the victim at knifepoint.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Still training for the Hock. Becoming stronger physically. Also becoming less neurotic and more determined. More conscientious and more able to endure shit. People seem to be nicer and my friends seem to think I am not as visibly autistic. Contemplating the idea that you might be a frozen corpse in less than four months tends to put things into perspective. Also, losing some weight; started Vyvanse for ADHD. Switched to it from Adderall. Vyvanse is much smoother and also suppresses appetite. Silexan, or lavender oil, is also doing wonders for my anxiety/neuroticism. Also on 10mg fluoxetine, but adding the lavender oil really seems to have made a difference.
Am now 5'6" and 155 lbs; lost five pounds. Mostly fat, probably: lifts in weight room going up. Also more tired, but hey, that's part of training for something like the Hock.
Plan to make a blog or something describing my Hock prep efforts in a few days to a week; I have a little more than 100 days before I set out on the Hock. A hundred days (not much!) in which to get swole and build enough endurance for my journey through Hell, which I will hopefully survive.
All in all, things are going pretty well, and I'm happy about the changes I'm making. People are impressed by the Hock when I call it a "winter backpacking trip" and think it's badass. The Hock provideth.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
There is a difference between theft and robbery. Even the criminal underworld understands this. Robbers use force or the threat of force to steal shit; I would think that someone that's raping a sex worker is doing the same...using force or its threat.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
People like Shkreli or Madoff don’t seem to have had that much trouble in prison - a lot IQ place.
Weren't these guys in relatively cushy prisons for white collar criminals...not a maximum security prison with hardened murderers and gang leaders and shit?
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Essentially: it's the asterisk on the Harvard degree.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
In fact I think there’s something pathological about antipathy towards your own tribe, your own religion or culture.
It is sad in some ways, but also admirable in others. It's what cultural diffusion looks like. One culture can definitely be better adapted to an environment than another. It's like the old saw about who would win a fight: a lion, or a shark?
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Yeah. Cultural bias is probably a human universal. You can have (say) black and white living in perfect harmony and ganging up on those other group of bastards over there. "I don't give a fuck what color his skin is, he's not one of those X's from over the hill!"
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Yeah. My parents figured that both me and my sister would go to college. They cautioned me against joining the military because of leftist disagreements with US foreign policy; they cautioned my sister extra hard. They were fine with her trying to become an ironworker or something if she wanted, though. IDK how an athletic average size woman pulls off working on an Alaskan crab boat, but if she did, more power to her, she's a badass.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
I have a younger sister with whom I am close. My mother tried hard to keep me from becoming promiscuous; it went horribly right. My dad was against casual sex, believing it was foolish and irresponsible. Always thought it was a bad deal and basically like BASE jumping or some shit. Was never interested in it myself until age 26 or so, and only then in order to gain some kind of wisdom or some shit like that.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Religious conservatives and sex-negative feminists both agree that casual sex in the society that exists is inherently degrading to women, that women should choose not to engage in it, and that men should be punished for engaging in it. Their inability to admit that they are allies on this point was a running joke among libertarians and sex-positive feminists since at least the 1990s
Didn't that unholy alliance get going in the 1970s?
SkookumTree
1yr ago
The core of the Sexual Revolution was a nihilistic view that told young people generally that there was no greater power or value system out there to worry about.
I wonder how much WWII and penicillin contributed to that; I don't think that it was any accident that we saw things getting a bit more conservative when AIDS started being concerning for straight people. Imagine what our mores would be like if we had no effective tests or treatments for AIDS. Syphilis was more or less the semi-diet AIDS of its day.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Right-wingers don't yet know it, but in the coming years they will be joining forces with feminists on this topic.
They already have - there was an unholy alliance between radfems and religious conservatives against porn.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
What does the average young woman in the modern West get out of having casual sex with strangers?
Maybe social capital and/or wisdom? The ability to tell stories that are shocking and titillating? It doesn't seem like much but it may be something in some cases.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
Raping a sex worker should be seen as a variant of theft and assault. Raping a promiscuous person some kind of assault, depending on the circumstances.
I mean...isn't raping a sex worker pretty similar to robbery, plus or minus a biohazard? Same for raping a promiscuous person...that seems to map to aggravated assault. Both of these are considered felonies; it's legal in most of the US to shoot a robber or someone who is attempting to kill or maim you.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
some people are better suited to benefit from sleeping around as they are innately better at mitigating the potential costs
Replace "sleeping around" with basically anything that is both risky and potentially rewarding. Some people will be better at learning to ski than others because of a combination of body type/composition and personality. Others will be better soldiers, firefighters, BASE jumpers, etc.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
his work habits are what are at the literally 1-in-a-million "sleep on the office couch while working hundred hour weeks, then after selling that company for tens of millions do it again with the next company ad infinitum" level.
I think that's a good deal closer to 1/10,000. Consider the work ethic of the average Navy SEAL for example, and then consider that there's a bunch of people with SEAL tier willpower that don't become SEALs.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
I had 'jokingly' suggested to friends a while back that the single best way to bring male customers back to Bud Light was to simply hire a cadre of busty women who would stand in the beer aisle at the grocery store wearing an American Flag bikini and offering to fellate anyone who bought a case. Boom. Apology accepted.
And considering how many buxom ladies with relatively lax morals you could afford to hire for $100 million, I am wondering if that might have been a better plan overall.
That might be possible, but they would have to be a shitload more sophisticated, and if people ever caught wind of this it would be a hell of a scandal. Might be worth it if they were going bankrupt, assuming they could hide it behind layers of plausible deniability.
SkookumTree
1yr ago
They can't accept that their own failures are the result of cowardice and lack of effort.
There's more than that there. Musk is the equivalent of Michael Jordan; for every one of him, there's a hundred others that were just as brave and worked just as hard, but didn't win the genetic lottery or were unlucky.
Knights, in ages past, trained incessantly at knightly shit from childhood. Are there groups of people or cultures that train this intensely at networking...the kind of people where, if charisma and political competence was martial skill, they'd be very similar to Japanese samurai or European knights or other martial aristocrats? Or: since the average person has the same kind of material comfort and wealth as the aristocrats in ages past, are they just determined as all hell and making like ducks, seeming to not try very hard while actually putting in extremely demanding performances, like JFK and his career as a soldier and politician while suffering from severe chronic pain and never letting on, except to his closest friends, how much he was suffering? FDR the polio sufferer seems to have been cut of the same cloth. More mundanely, I've seen a few people who have chronic pain and don't really look like they're suffering. Maybe Joe Average is secretly determined as all hell and doesn't cop to it...
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