Skulldrinker
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Honest question, how widespread is feminist messaging regarding dating towards men these days? Women don't actually claim to want nice guys (but date jerks) anymore, they just date jerks (the most-panty-melting man in their Hinge inbox, who has no reason to treat them well) and complain about it. Part of this is that there's a lot more median and trashy women visible on the internet these days, and they don't seem to maintain the previous kayfaybe as tightly as the FeministTM bloggers of yesteryear did; the shallowness is very on-display. What "official" messaging that does exist consists of shitting on men for being a gestalt of the Patriarchy, rapists and abusers, and that hot guy who won't text them back after fucking them. They don't even call them NiceGuys anymore. I suppose there's ideological demands on men to be rabid protesting leftists (these demands coming from women who are themselves rabid protesting leftists), but its all abstract stuff to do with abortion, transphobia, Orange Man Bad, and anti-racism.
(Edit: the TL;DR is that the feminist orthodoxy of the time was that male romantic success was contingent on personal virtue, with personal virtue being defined as being politically Feminist, and later anti-racist and pro-LGBTQXYZ, with any lack of romantic success being proof of lack of personal virtue. Now the orthodoxy seems to just be that men=bad)
I'm old and don't really hear young guys talking about women at all, cut myself off from as much mainstream dating discourse as possible online, and I'm in a horrible bubble IRL where every woman compulsively says "Men are all such trash, amirite?" as a greeting, so I'm very aware my perspective is distorted.
Even the man-o-sphere stuff these days is plainly targeted at median/normie men, with an emphasis on those who actually do seem to have toxic masculinity (ex: the huge Muslim fanbase), whereas in the past, when the internet was just nerds, it very clearly was coming from/to nerdy experiences and frustrations.
Sometimes I hear women complaining about being on dates with man-o-sphere guys, and I'm a little bit skeptical. What fucking guy is the unlikely combination of hot enough to get a woman to go on a date with him, romantically frustrated enough to engage in Man-o-Sphere content, AND clueless enough to talk judgy redpill lingo about bodycount and hypergamy to the woman he's on a date with?
My last point of contact for the Apex Predator of contemporary playa appeal-maxxing is five years out of date, and it was to be hot while also being a black gay communist and say cringey soy things about Believing Women and Pronouns. And I don't know of any Man-o-Sphere influencers or dating coaches who give guys the advice that apparently works; self-identify as "queer" and use leftist buzzwords while treating women like shit.
Skulldrinker
20hr ago
I've noticed this too. I've also noticed that the Enterprise's computer says "Acknowledged" instead of "Wow, that command is absolutely chef's kiss and has real Starfleet energy, I'll get on that right away. While we're here, tell me what thoughts you have on Deck Seven?"
Skulldrinker
2d ago
Those are probably actually emotionally avoidant people, since they don't represent one woman's entire dating history, and weren't diagnosed by Reddit.
I'm pretty sure that "Emotional Avoidant" is women pathologizing a man who just wants to keep fucking them but not do feel-y relationship stuff with them, because he's too hot to need to bother.
Similar to "Hysteria" or "Drapetomania." I just hear it said too much and it makes me roll my eyes, it's becoming one of those words like Abuse, Gaslighting, Love-bombing, et cetera.
Is the current Zeitgeist turned towards "himbos," then?
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