Well I'm not an expert on holocaust, a quick google gave me a 5-6 million killed jews estimate and that is the authoritative one on wikipedia
I specified number of victims of Holocaust, not victim count of Shoah, not a victim count of Jewish Holocaust dead.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims
(if there is a better word/term for overall extermination done by Germans around WW II less likely to result in confusion and is not annoyingly long then let me know)
I am not refering to the Jewish genocide but to one that is twice as big and that you never heard about because of racism:
It killed 11 million human beings, 11 million slavic civilian people for their ethnicity
I am considering it as part of Holocaust (and less than half of Holocaust dead were Jewish)
that you never heard about because of racism
I assure you that you are mistaken in this specific case, I am from Poland. Though in general I agree about blatant racism/politics/propaganda/failed PR in this area.
especially Romani people
nope, less than half million Romani were murdered (mostly because Germans run out of people to murder in this group after murdering about 50% - 75% of European population)
Soviet civilians were largest group of people murdered in Holocaust.
Around 5 000 000 Poles were murdered.
(in both groups there is large overlap with murder of Jews - around 1.3M of murdered USSR civilians were Jews, around 3M of murdered Poles were Jews)
There has been flaws during this necessary transition
That description is part hilarious and part horrifying.
the reason behind 99% of the deaths, an artificial one, deliberately chosen by the U.S.A and other occidental countries, a worlwide ban on exports to China. A worlwide ban of many technologies including the main disruption of the century, the discovery and production of fertilizers.
Well no. Great Chinese Famine and Holodomor and similar catastrophes were primarily caused by murderous communist rule.
Backyard furnaces, four pests, pressure to blatantly falsify reports, Lysenkoism including deep plowing etc and so on. Describing it merely as "flaws" is an absurd denial.
worlwide ban on exports to China
Do you have any sources? From what I remember one of problems was exporting food while millions starved to death, so presumably they also imported something. But I may misremember this one.
Smok
1yr ago
but if it is, wouldn't removing the content from the internet and issuing a retraction be enough
At the very minimum he should also apologise for blatantly lying and inventing conspiracy theories about their dead children and refund costs caused by his lying.
And also some reasonable compensation (maybe about 10 000 000 $ per slandered person?).
Smok
1yr ago
As for accounts of said racism I invite the reader, for example, to ask himself if he knows what was the biggest genocide during WW2.
Holocaust, 11 000 000 - 17 000 000 dead.
who caused the Great Chinese Famine
PRC, Mao in particular.
Smok
1yr ago
From outside it is sad and hilarious.
Reminds me about https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,8363.msg337784.html#msg337784 (about Peru and still worth reading if you do not care about Peru)
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This led to left wing protests and riots and a new state of emergency. The same people who praised Castillo's use of such tactics a few months ago flipped for pretty transparently partisan reasons. The left wing considers this a coup (despite it being completely constitutional) and the right wing considers this the successful prevention of a coup (which it was). The father of the right wing presidential candidate, Fujimori, staged a coup in exactly this way in 1992. And the left considers him a dictator. If there's a difference beyond partisan hypocrisy why it's different I can't see it. (Though this does add a wrinkle that the daughter of someone who can credibly be described as a dictator might end up as president. And that the right has the opposite position on legitimate/illegitimate coups making them hypocrites too.)
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The opinion of the left is that the removal was illegitimate for... uh... reasons. Seriously, they don't have a legal argument as far as I can tell. It's all about neoliberalism and capitalism and that Keiko Fujimori is the daughter of a dictator. And her father's a dictator because he dissolved the Congress extra-constitutionally with the support of the military without calling an election. Which is completely different from Castillo because... he succeeded and Castillo failed I guess.
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Fujimori speaks very highly of her father's presidency.
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Smok
1yr ago
According to ACOUP it is worse in humanities as you will not be even employable after going through this.
In theory, these responsibilities are usually supposed to add up to about 20 hours a week, though there is a lot of variability from week to week and assignment to assignment. I actually kept track of my work hours in the first year of my PhD and found they ranged from 60 to 80 hours a week and that was with all the tricks I had learned to read and work faster during my MA (for comparison, I rarely felt seriously stressed about schoolwork during my undergraduate degree, which I finished in three years)
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And yes, every graduate student will come up with a whole host of reasons why they are special and the job fairy will favor them, but the numbers don’t lie: you’re not special and the job fairy died years ago.
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At least flagellants, in theory, got to go to heaven as the reward for their self-destructive purification. The only thing pursuing a PhD in the humanities offers is the opportunity to go on the academic job market, which is frankly probably closer to hell at this point.
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So You Want To Go To Grad School (in the Academic Humanities)?
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Have you tried wanting something else?
What is the point of scrambling to buy hundreds of modern MBTs and creating a logistical nightmare? They're under a nuclear umbrella and their treaty allies have a military budget 10-20x larger than the only vaguely threatening force in the region? The only area Russia has parity is nuclear weapons, indeed they have superiority in that they have 2000 tactical nukes, much more than NATO. So what good is this large conventional force?
Are you aware how well relying on alliances went for Poland during WW II?
Also, have you seen how Germany is spending its 100 billion?
And why you call Russia "vaguely threatening force"? Ongoing invasion is far from vague. And far from being definite victory, Ukraine can still collapse.
Imagine that the Russians had quickly won the war in Ukraine. Does it follow that they would invade Poland, who is in NATO and protected by nuclear powers?
It seems a real risk for me. In fact my reaction to full scale invasion on 24th February was to start drafting emigration plans as I was worried that Russian army will not stop on Poland-Ukraine border. Fortunately war went in unexpected way.
If there is a war between NATO and Russia, Russia would quickly start to lose
What if there would war between Poland and Russia?
I suppose the Poles have been burnt by trusting their allies before.
yep
And Trump actually had a point about other NATO countries not pulling their weight.
I suppose it could help out the Ukrainians. But how does assisting Ukraine improve Polish security?
Makes need for updating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_conflicts_involving_Poland_against_Russia less likely.
So what good are the tanks and the large conventional force Poland is making?
Intervening in Estonia in case Russia gets uppity and still does not get that they are not entitled to empire in Central/Eastern Europe?
Protect against whatever is happening in 15 years? How many people predicted in 2007 that in 15 years we will have full scale war in Europe, with 100 000+ dead and numbers increasing? With Russia losing 1500 tanks? And getting distinction of being the first nuclear power having its strategic bomber base in own territory being hit by missiles (that their own former empire produced...)? Getting its flagship sunk?
And with Ukraine adding own losses, with just independently confirmed losses being large enough to equip all land armies of Western Europe and have leftovers?
On political side: who in 2007 would predict that Poland will give Ukraine 230+ tanks because they are being invaded by Russia?
How many predicted that Russian leadership will believe own propaganda and it will run WW II parody combined with Gulf War parody at cost of billions, 100 000+ dead people, massive human misery and other costs?
This war reminded that having an actual army is really useful also in XXI century, also for European countries.
Not entirely sure what will be happening and 2037 but at this point I am not willing to base defence on "war is not going to happen because we are in Europe and NATO". NATO has some chance to be de facto not existing in 2037.
However, I think that the armies of Poland and Europe generally are just opportunistically expanding themselves now that they've got a decent-sounding excuse.
Well, if Polish army would not manage to use THAT to expand/modernize then it would demonstrate absurd incompetence cough German procurement cough.
Note also that photographing yourself with pile of tanks will work nicely in upcoming elections. Especially given that weakest area of opposition was its handling of Russia-related international relations, also proposed handling of Belarusian border crisis.
So focusing topic on "we are importing bajillion tanks" is done in part (probably quite small one) to look well during upcoming elections.
So maybe scale is overly large, maybe opportunity costs is high but I do not think it is so clear case of waste/bad decision.
Smok
1yr ago
"de-facto Jewish conspiracy exists and is a good thing as prevents world-wars" is a take that I have not seen before, so points for originality at least.
Smok
1yr ago
Others claim Aella is trying her hardest to stir the pot for attention. That could have been a valid point, if what she posted had been the least bit controversial.
Aella is clearly doing it for attention - why that claim is not true? (not that it is relevant at all, and pointing it out by someone with Twitter account is ridiculous)
Smok
1yr ago
The only thing that can protect Poland from Russia is nuclear weapons. If Poland is worried about having to fight Russia alone (in some nightmare scenario where NATO has disintegrated), they need nuclear weapons.
As Ukraine is proving right now - having decent conventional army is also useful. USSR lost in Afghanistan, Russia lost the First Chechen War, USA lost multiple wars against enemies without nuclear weapons.
then Russia loses the conventional war and starts a nuclear war
Second is not guaranteed and escalates it into global conflict.
In the nightmare scenario where NATO is gone and it's every state for themselves, the Poles get turned into a Russian satellite regardless of what conventional forces they have. What good are tanks if the enemy can raze your cities in minutes?
There is also intermediate position with Poland in situation where Ukraine is right now.
You forgot to mention that USSR and Germany cooperated in starting WW II - both in developing military power before, joint strategy planning, invading Poland and holding a military parade after victory.
what Red Army should have done?
Do not help Germans.
Do not attack Polish Army (also in 1920).
Leave after WW II ended.
Murder, rape and loot less.
Smok
1yr ago
Can anyone try to justify the transphobia policy above?
Justify? No. Explain?
Well, it seems quite clear. They want others to believe that current medicine is able to actually achieve full male-female body swap. This is clearly untrue, but they want other to believe that (or pretend to fully believe). Maybe they even believe it themself. Or believe that they believe it.
Smok
1yr ago
On topic of quite literal culture wars, but differently than usually defined here: my family is buying electricity generator for an Ukrainian family.
It is about 500 euro, goes directly to family member of refugee family that we are hosting so there is a decent chance that it will reach intended targets - and I am far more sure about this than with many charities.
Mentioning that mostly as a possibility if someone would be interested in doing something similar.
Smok
1yr ago
Related case: by all info known to me Tether is a scam. But my reaction is to "lets not invest anything into it or anything related" not "spend effort on making people aware what is going on".
The same goes for FTX - if someone believed lies of 15% risk free returns and is not my family member/friends then I am not going to bother with it.
Smok
1yr ago
Unless the aggregate poor can sell something to the aggregate not-poor
Status goods. "hand made" is already used this way.
One obvious thing (though far from an utopian answer): prostitution. (and if people missed this, then then they missed also other things)
Smok
1yr ago
If Poland is skeptical that their allies will defend them from Russia, why should they hope that Russia will refrain from nuking them? What good are tanks when one faces complete destruction?
See war in Ukraine.
Or in Vietnam. Or Afghanistan (both USA and USSR editions). Or other wars where nuclear power lost without using nukes.
Smok
1yr ago
Suppose we get to a point that with minimal effort that all trans people undergo, they all start to pass as the gender they identify with to the point where, as far as hooking up goes, you fundamentally could not tell if they were cis or trans.
I bet that in such case they would have no problem with saying "I was born male, then rebuild myself as a giraffe and now I morphed to female form". But we are far away from this level of bioengineering no matter what would people claim.
The entire trans stuff is caused by uncanny valley of being able to imperfectly migrate - but extremely imperfectly with small minority achieving anything close to a success. Even if they do not care about fertility.
Smok
1yr ago
mobilization
Note that it is mobilization for training, not for war. This people are not getting send to Ukraine or something.
Smok
1yr ago
Polish has no articles at all. But more importantly, as I understand, they do not exist in Russian language.
a/an/the is an irritating stuff for me.
Smok
1yr ago
If you insist on dumb binary ethical categorizations (which are dump) then USA at that time was closer to lawfully good than lawfully evil.
(not claiming that it was ideal but on evil to not evil range populated by governments in human history it was quite far on "not evil" side)
Smok
1yr ago
Why you think so?
German Third Reich was very lawful evil. Technically they ended with vertical firing squad rather than circular firing squads, but problems in the end were very similar.
(maybe there could be treated as pragmatic with "Jews are evil" axiom, still society they created was far from flourishing due to their own actions)
Smok
1yr ago
Many worries about MtF are about males getting access to females spaces and overpowering them due to psychical power greater than woman have (sports have the least emotionally charged and the most objective case of that).
This does not apply to FtM.
Also how many FtM and MtF are there?
Smok
1yr ago
OK, that is amazing and hilarious and absurd and actually case of "they ruled that actual shoelace was a machine gun".
I am amazed and worried at that someone managed to write and send this reply.
I was honestly unaware of this, thanks for making me aware of this.
Why $10M is reasonable? I mean, spreading vile lies is without doubt despicable
I would not wish to be put through such thing (extreme lies about me and my dead children by someone influential enough to result in idiots and insane people harassing me).
Though I consider being willing to survive through years of that in exchange of massive amount of money such as 10 000 000 $ dollars.
Therefore it seems to me enough to offset damage caused.
And yes, I am not including murders itself in that.
Note also in general I think that transfer of funds to victim should be done more often. You hit someone with a car? That is not your car anymore but goes to a victim. It was not your car or some cheap wreck? 10% of income goes to victim unless huge amount of funds is paid, enough to offset damage you did. You robbed someone? 1000% of what you stole goes to the victims. (note: maybe this is done already in USA). You run automated call spam? Each victim is entitled to 500$. Wage theft? Worker is entitled to 10 times of what they were illegally not paid. Running fraud? You must give back 10 times what you stolen, etc etc.
(if I would be in power to legislate something - then maybe I would end with lower multipliers, but someone losing entire wealth after running large scale fraud seem much more reasonable than going to prison for few months and keeping stolen funds - again, maybe it is problem of local justice system)
I do not understand why it is reasonable that a person who was a victim of a lie (admittedly, a very vile and disgusting one, but still one lie), should instantly become top 1% rich just because of it?
"emotional damages" is overused but reasonable in this case. Being victim of top 0.05%* of harassment seems a good reason to get eye-watering amounts of money from chief harasser. In older times other solutions would be used, but this modern one seems preferable.
*1 in 5 000 harassment seems reasonable estimate to me in this case, as in "there are about 168 000 more harassed people in USA and 335 000 000 less harassed ones" but have not explored this one deeply and maybe I was mislead by what reached me.
I doubt that it is an indicator. That would at most indicate that pendulum is accelerating slower.
Pendulum swinging back would require people sneering and making fun of something that was previously lauded, not just lack of enthusiasm for new overreach.
And this list reads like a deliberate attempt to troll HN: full of stupid arguments, false claims, wild mix of different stuff, blatant stupidity about technical matters, bad documentation... HS would complain about this even if they would fully agree with the goal.
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