Stefferi
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Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
8hr ago
Right-wingers from milquetoast to genocidal currently have Twitter to jerk themselves off day and night.
Stefferi
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1d ago
There was a former Nazi official serving as the Bundeskanzler at one point.
Stefferi
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6d ago
I’m not aware of any widespread right/conservative celebration of either of these attacks.
Not celebration, but there seems to have been a fair amount of "This is a horrible attack but it is important to remember that Mormons aren't Christians but instead a heretical sect etc." style of commentary, which resembles "This is a horrible attack but it is important to remember that Kirk was an anti-gay Christian nationalist etc." style of commentary that was read by many to be at least tone-deaf and possibly sort of celebratory/stochastic.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
7d ago
The Americans similarly often seem to think that there's a huge amount of friction in the everyday use of the metric, though. "Lol do women in Europe put "no men under 182.88 cm" in their dating ads?" No, though they might put no men under 180 cm.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
13d ago
There are Europeans who believe in a recognizable Christianity, but a big cathedral of the historical state church in the center capital city of some country (or autonomous region, in this case) is probably going to be quite a bad bet for finding them.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
14d ago
Of course, from the Orthodox perspective, the whole process starts with the Patriarchs of Rome starting to get big false ideas about their status as primus inter pares a number of centuries after Christ, schisming away from the Orthodox church, and Protestantism being a logical conclusion of the various theological issues spawning from that affair. "The Pope was the first Protestant".
Stefferi
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15d ago
...plenty of us have, indeed, "stepped outside of the pro-US-centric narrative", ie. considered the arguments of the pro-Russian side and their interpretations of the various events, and found them, to put it mildly, wanting.
Stefferi
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15d ago
I'm not sure if any of the pro-Ukraine posters are particularly committed to Zelensky the Man, unless he's meant to symbolize the entire Ukrainian cause here.
Stefferi
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17d ago
I just read a few (extremely boring) books for a social studies exam, and one thing that I still manage to remember from them is a claim, in a section mentioning the analysis of subcultures, that motorcycle gangs can be seen as a replication of certain elements of industrial working class existence, like the machinery, the noise, the metal surfaces of the bike etc. resembling a factory and the general idea of conquest of nature, which would of course also apply to Western European industrial working class descendents.
Nordic countries also share wide open spaces in the Northern regions, apart from Denmark.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
17d ago
Unrelated to Gaza, biker gangs are interesting since they operate as franchises that also expand to non-American contexts, leading to cases like the Nordic Biker War between the Swedish/Finnish branches of Hells Angels and Bandidos, two 1% gangs that originate in the US. These also attract or are in some cases dominated by immigrants from outside of Europe, such as in the notorious case of Satudarah, a gang that has caused news in several European countries (I had actually assumed it was Swedish before opening up the Wikipedia page since I had mostly encountered news about the Swedish chapter).
It's interesting that non-Americans and even non-Westerners interested in joining the criminal lifestyle would so often choose a format that is, as said, so very specifically American, both historically and regarding cultural signifiers. It's a problem for the concept of integration that we now have transnational criminal gangs and indeed criminal subcultures that offer one potential model of integration... just integration into something that is not beneficial to the host socities.
Stefferi
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18d ago
I wouldn't personally trust any media to any particular degree, but that's still an odd point of comparison to the most powerful man on the Earth.
Stefferi
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18d ago
Yeah, all the "That's just Trump, that's the way it is" comes off as a bizarre gimme request by MAGA types to carve out an expection for lying for the most powerful man on the Earth, and it's even more bizarre that they don't appear to see how anyone else could even see it as bizarre.
Stefferi
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20d ago
I would also guess opportunistic loon, mainly posting it as a reply to the idea that Zinn was uncontroversially a representative of the left / acting as he did for specific leftist reasons.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
20d ago
My feel is that he was deliberately trying to commit suicide-by-cop.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
20d ago
But we are told that this represents a small fraction of the left, only the most politically deranged. But a random person in the crowd didn't just cheer on Kirk's death, he was willing to risk arrest, possibly death (if you claim to have a gun during an active shooting, you can't really be surprised if you wind up shot.)
Often, Gill said, Zinn was arrested on suspicion of trespassing. He said Zinn was politically conservative, leaning libertarian, and would “give me a hard time for being a Dem.” Zinn had a curiosity about politics and “almost every political event you can think of, there was always George somewhere in the background, listening.”
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
20d ago
I'd still like to see what the "references" were. There's a world of difference between "Q really opened my eyes, and now I see that leftwingers like Nancy Pelosi are the adrenochrome eaters" and "Rightwingers are fascists, but this Q guy seems legit. Nancy Pelosi is basically a Republikkan."
I haven't seen even one case of the latter example anywhere ever.
The thing that separates QAnon from previous theories about the elites being child rapists (and there have been left-wing variants - Dave McGowan, who did an yeoman's labor in getting the general theory known among conspiracy circles, was a left-winger) is not the elite child rapist thing but the particular idea that Trump is a savior figure who will overthrow, jail and execute the (leftist) child rapist elites. QAnon rhetoric specifically places DePape on the right.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
20d ago
Whatever his views, he's now on the Team Trump, a clinching factor in itself.
How many Republicans, conservatives, or right-wingers support killing Black or Latino people just for being Black or Latino?
One can go on Twitter, search for "TND" and find examples of rando accounts doing just that, particularly after the Iryna Zaretska murder. Who knows how many (presumably some of them are sockpuppets), but there are at least some.
A ton of weird hippies went rightwards after Covid, arguably the most prominent one (who is also not known for living a particularly conventional lifestyle) now being the Secretary of HHS. I'd hardly expect all of them to immediately join a church, get a house in the suburbs with a white picket fence, become monogamous and/or drop their drug habits.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
21d ago
Okay, let's filter out all indictments. I'm looking for acts of political violence that occurred between 01/01/2005 and 08/15/25. Not the slow wheel of justice grinding on to a then-40 year old crime. In fact let's limit the data set to actual crimes, attacks, and just in case "unknown/unclear" so as to also filter out pleas, complaints, arrests, arraignments, and sentencing. Now we're down to 453 incidents out of the original 3874. Wow that is a change.
I don't think this is a good method. If you look at indictments for the recent years, it includes entires like this: "On October 5, 2023, Philip Jerome Buyno, 73, of Propheststown, Illinois, accepted a guilty plea of attempted arson. In the early morning of May 20, 2023, Buyno attempted to burn down a building set to become an abortion clinic in Danville, IL. According to the DOJ, Buyno "admitted that...he brought several containers filled with gasoline with him and used his car to breach the front entrance to a commercial building... for the purpose of burning it down before it could be used as a reproductive health clinic." (DOJ)" Buyno is not listed anywhere else, so this is a case of a recent crime that is listed just in the indictments, meaning that you'd be filtering out many other similar cases. Clearly this category doesn't just list people convicted of decades-old cases.
I also tried to check out whether the dataset includes the Allen, Texas - what seems to be an obvious case of right-wing terrorism - shooting with Mauricio Martinez Garcia listed as Hispanic or White to check whether just limiting cases to white people leaves out essential right-wing terrorism cases perpetrated by, say, Hispanic people with clear far-right ideology, but I couldn't find it... at all?
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
24d ago
The point being answered is “If someone is glad that Charlie Kirk, a moderate conservative squish, is dead and deserved to be killed for what he believed, they’d be ecstatic if I or people like me died / were killed based on what I believe”. The lefties who are cheering for his death would not have seen him as a moderate, and as mentioned many times, he himself referred to his view on a key issue as being very, very radical, making it less likely this would be his self-description, either.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
24d ago
If one moves about in European (and presumably American) far left circles, even peripherally (ie. Discords and stuff), it is pretty much guaranteed that they will know Bella Ciao and its Italian partisan context.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
24d ago
Sure, it's open for everyone (though I suspect that right-wing content gets boosted by the algorithm), it's just bit rich at this point to say that right-wingers (let alone milquetoast right-wingers) have to do with "condemned self-hosted shitholes or bust".
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