Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
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Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
8mo ago
So the answer is "the deniers don't have a coherent historical narrative that makes sense"? Considering the manhours of energy spent poring over minutiae in camp construction and witness testimony, one would think that there would be at least one attempt at constructing an overarching history of the Jews in WW2 Europe from a denier perspective, without being tied to just being commentary on the mainstream historiography (which has produced a wealth of such narratives).
At least according to Wikipedia, the official German estimate of the deaths from Eastern European expulsions of Germans is in the ballpark of a bit over 2 million (which has always been the number I've understood to be correct, before this) and the theories that the actual number is around half a million continue to be "challenger" theories. Even so, whichever the number is, we're talking about whether the amount of Germans dying in Central/Eastern Europe in the aftermath of WW2 is around 0,5 % or 2 %, not whether the amount of Jews dying in the same region in 1941-1945 is over a half or in low single digits; the sheer scales of population reduction in certain demographic group are completely different.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
3d ago
Living in one of the rare other countries where soccer isn't the main sport, there really seems to be a something ostentatious about the way anti-soccer Americans go out of their way to talk unprompted about just how much they don't care about soccer and how un-American it is etc. that you don't really find here.
I suppose it's a culture war thing but even then, a self-aware person would at least consider that it really is then the culture war that's at fault, moreso than the game itself.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
6d ago
Okay, can you list the "etc.", "etc.", and "etc."? Because whenever I've seen this claim the reference point is always the SCUM Manifesto, and that sort of a thing kind of makes one think there are, in fact, no other reference points.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
28d ago
Yeah. I mean, it would seem to be an obvious from even a cursory reading of Russian history that the one tendency that has stayed from Muscovy times to imperial times to Soviet times to current times has been the continuous tendency for expansion, either through direct annexation or the acquisition of extremely closely held client states. The only expections have been leaders who have been willing to permit territorial contraction for revolutionary purposes or to acquire personal power, and these leaders have then later been greatly denigrated due to this. The finishing of one annexation has generally just tended to be the beginning of the planning of the next acquisition. Much of the "aw, why be so scared of Russia? They clearly have very good reasons for whatever heist they're pulling now" discourse just comes off as an attempt to obfuscate this very obvious pattern.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
29d ago
The opinion of NAFOids and Redditors can be discounted on sight, but at least here, where the one thing the media or the public opinion beyond the most extreme loser circles is solidly pro-Ukrainian , the media has been bouncing the question of what the actual goals are or should be for quite a bit longer than that.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
1mo ago
Sure, but this whole thread basically consists off examples of white celebrities who have got away with shit and black celebrities who haven't, followed by "Yes, sure, but that's an exception... and that... and that... and that..."
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
2mo ago
There were strident Covid responses by both left- and right-wing governments. Few Hungary-loving conservative influencers seem to be familiar with what sort of Covid policies Hungary had, for instance (though it was far from the strictest ones). While Covid policies were polarized into left-right fairly quickly, things were considerably hazier in a host of other countries.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
3mo ago
Wouldn't you be able to shoot down practically any other libertarian reform down on the basis of "Well, in a fully libertarian state this would work, but in ours...", too?
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
No, not really - the situation seems to concern the status of this discussion in the United States, and I'm frankly too unfamiliar with the actual situation there to comment at length.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
You'd expect from all these street press gang videos that at least a few low-level officers would get shot by desperate soldiers, but they must be really good at compartimentalizing.
...or that the street press gang videos being spread by pro-Russians as a form of propaganda are really not reflective of the situation at large.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
I don't think that the US atomic bomb production was at that point at the phase where they could produce more than an occasional bomb, and in any case - as the movie Oppenheimer showed - a huge amount of the folks related to the weapons development in this arena were in it specifically to beat the Nazis and would have pulled brakes on the programme hard if the US had suddenly palled with the Nazis to attack the Soviets.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
Right, but when it comes to the specific question of getting wars on, America seemed to be quite capable of that even without the expanded central government.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
Unless you have a very wide definition of "welfare state", modern countries tend to be below that whether they are welfare states or not, and many of them first dipped below replacement in the interwar period already.
Stefferi
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5mo ago
I'm not saying I'm agreeing with the prosecution or how this case has been handled, or that the agitation laws currently work fine considering they've allowed this procedure to go this far (though this might also serve as a precedent for further cases to not be processed this way, even in our common-law system), I was just saying that presumably the intended outcome for the prosecution wouldn't be just to harass but to actually convict. Räsänen case wasn't even my main point anyway, and I'm not necessary saying there's any particular connection between formal hate crime laws and social media culture.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
6mo ago
It's a pretty basic, well-accepted principle of a modern citizenship that a citizen of some country be allowed to move in and to whatever other part of the country they wish to occupy without this being illegal.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
28d ago
Come now, we can go over the transcripts if you'd like. We can even go over Yanukovych's invitation for the opposition to join the government, which was the basis of Nuland's discussions of who would actually work well within Yanukovych's government which- again- was invited and being discussed in the context of Yanukovych running it.
It should also be remembered that the guys that Nuland and Pyatt were talking about - Yatsenyuk - was one of the main leaders of the main opposition party and had already been offered the PMs post by Yanuk as a compromise, making him the most natural leader to take this post after Yanuk and PoR had vacated power.
It's not like they just picked some guy out of nowhere to make him their puppet, the main thrust of the Nuland call was that they wanted to keep Klitchko and Tyahnubok marginalized since the first was too close to the Europeans and the latter was far-right (something that the pro-Russians never seem to mention - the US explicitly wanted to make sure the far right does not get too much power, something that doesn't fit in the idea of US gunning for Banderites to turn Ukraine into Banderastan).
The Nuland call is not inconsequential since it's evidence that EU should operate on its own and not just rely on the US, surely an important message to this day, but it's not by itself evidence that the entire Euromaidan sequence was just due to string-pulling by Americans with Ukrainians having no agency.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
3mo ago
No, just asking if you support the ongoing mass-slaughter of Slavic people by your government
It is literally, literally the Russian government conducting the ongoing mass slaughter of Slavic people. (I guess you could also refer to the Ukrainian government for fighting back, but a large number of the RF troops they kill would be non-Slavic minorities.)
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4mo ago
Who has supported an escalation of the war? The most concrete proposals for escalating the war from the western side have been demands for direct NATO intervention, which I haven't seen anyone make here. What people have reminded, multiple times, is that there are no particular signs of withdrawal of Western support just leading to Russia calling it quits, at least very easily.
The most likely scenario at this moment that would lead to millions of death would be West withdrawing support and Russia relaunching a full-scale assault but Ukraine fighting on to the bitter end, which doesn't seem impossible.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
5mo ago
...the intended outcome is to prosecute and then acquit?
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
6mo ago
Sure, that's stupid too, but the Western pro-Russians very specifically tend to pride themselves as independent thinkers who aren't just platitude-repeating NPCs like the "Reddit" pro-Ukrainians, so the incongruency tends to look bigger to me.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
6mo ago
This seems like an extremely remote chance, but might US be able to persuade Saudi Arabia? It would mean opening routes through Negev.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
7mo ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Israel genuinely soon attempted to do exactly that.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
15d ago
I actually thought that the Civil War movie itself remarkably represented a CRPG. Quoting from a post I made on the basis of ACX comments:
I kept thinking about how this would still provide a good setting for a computer role-playing game (CRPG) (why are there comparatively few CRPGs situated in a present-day-style wartime setting?), and it then struck me that the plot, such as it was, was a CRPG plot already.
We start with a water-riot-based tutorial where we get a refresher on how to use action points, take photos, communicate and even transfer an item to a party member. Then, at the hotel, the main quest starts, and the party is assembled.
An early random encounter demonstrates that one party member is underexperienced or has the wrong skillset, and the narrative has told us that the main quest's final encounter is going to be difficult, so the party decides to grind side quests for levels. They even visit a literal shop and a literal rest site.
During one of the side quests the party encounters an enemy, a Nazi played well by Jesse Plemons, that's a bit too high for their current levels, so in addition to two temporary party members who were hardcoded to be killed anyway, they lose one of the main party members. After this, they find out that the main quest's time limit has run out and they're locked out of the best ending. However, the story graciously lets them go through the final battle for another ending.
Alex Garland has served as a video game writer as well, so I guess it sticks.
Yes, but that's how it would be presented, at the very least.
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