Stellula
3hr ago
This is all coming down to a simple question: does the state have a legitimate right to a monopoly on violence?
It seems as though a very small contingent of revolutionary communists believe that the answer to this question is no. This is where the idea of disrupting police, "de arresting" people, rioting, etc. comes from. They don't agree that the state should have the ultimate power to enforce laws that they don't agree with. In this case they seem to disagree with immigration laws, and because of this disagreement they don't believe that ICE/DHS has a right to enforce these laws.
This is a big problem. An actual threat to democracy. Half the country voted in an almost single issue fashion to have our immigration laws enforced. A small (but growing) contingent of the left does not believe that that is legitimate, and therefore believe that they have the right to use force to oppose this.
The real question is: how do you de-escalate from here? These people (some of them) have convinced themselves that they are living through the rise of an authoritarian/fascist dictatorship and have precipitated some things that do pattern match to that. Aside from some sort of science fiction style deprogramming effort: how do you bring them back to reality?
This is a question that genuinely troubles me.
Stellula
3hr ago
Here's the timeline as of about 6:30 Western time day of:
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Alexi Petti shows, armed, up to participate in an ICE observation/disruption event in Minneapolis.
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Alex gets into an altercation with police, possible involving a woman who was pepper sprayed.
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The police/ICE pepper spray him as well, and tackle him to the ground.
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Alex appears to, during the scuffle, also attack the initial woman who was sprayed. He seems to grab her and try to pull her somewhere (possibly trying to "de-arrest" her)
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A so-far unknown law enforcement officer appears to disarm Alex while many other officers are wrestling with him on the ground. The scene is chaotic
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A second or so after Alex appears to be disarmed, he also appears to reach for his (no missing) gun
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This is when he is shot and killed.
Here is a slow motion video purporting to show him reaching for his missing weapon: https://x.com/KimKatieUSA/status/2015181670576775302
Here is an annotated/slowed video showing what appears to be an LEO disarming him: https://x.com/brandonstraka/status/2015140156806934987
Stellula
7d ago
It’s such a simple explanation that you can’t even…explain it? Strip mine it for what, exactly? Why would Trump care to strip mine Greenland? Does Greenland do a lot of mining (no)? Is there a mysterious resource that Greenland has that nobody else does?
I mean…yes there is: arctic coastline.
And I’m not “parroting” this. This is obvious to anybody who has even a passing interest in geopolitics and has been a topic or conversation for 20 years at least.
Stellula
7d ago
We know the answer? What is it?
Canada sounds like they’re currently trying to stoke an alliance with China, and the Europeans refuse to invest any money defense, they just keep trying to guilt us into paying for it. Not only that, but their immigration policies have massively destabilized their own countries.
We need strong partners. Denmark and Canada, at this point, aren’t. Canada just struck a deal to buy a bunch of shirty Saab fighter jets instead of massively superior F35s as a way of trying to spite us, the people paying for their defense.
Look at a globe and put the north pole at the center of your vision. You have Russia on one side, and America on the other. The arctic is already becoming a sea route, and greenland is positioned to be a major part of that. Canada controls a lot of the territory there, and doesn't have the economy or the will to be a powerful western force.
It's about countering Russia and China. They both want increased presence in our sphere, and Greenland is a good place to assert our control. The Europeans are also incapable of managing this.
I think the chance that this changes anybody's perception is 0. Scrolling X I see equal right wing gloating over how right they (we) were and left wing gloating about how right they were. Both sides think this video confirms what they already thought.
Here's a bisky post demonstrating what I mean: https://bsky.app/profile/jsweetli.bsky.social/post/3mbz3zjxzpk2t
Here's another example from X: https://x.com/dpakman/status/2009704541793747294
David Pakman must know what he's doing here, right? He's not stupid. My theory of mind for these people is that they genuinely know they're being duplicitous, but they see that as a greater good.
Just a vibes comment: there is something very strange to me about her female partner. The aggression, telling her to "drive drive", the body language, etc....it just gets my hackles up a bit.
Stellula
15d ago
We’re splitting hairs here. You’re right plausible would also work, but I think what I was saying was clear.
Stellula
16d ago
Did I say probable?
Reasonable is the correct word here. Crazy gangstalking conspiracies are possible, body doubles and crisis actors are possible, but these are both unreasonable.
Considering that the officer's state of mind was being effected by his previous encounter with a protestor and their car is both possible and reasonable.
Stellula
16d ago
In Minnesota in January the roads are covered with ice, which is very slippery. Watch the wheels of the car when the tires are turned to the left, the tires move, but the car stays stationary. That's because she is on ice. She is trying to move the car forward, but failing because she isn't getting enough traction between the tires and the ice.
Stellula
16d ago
After a day of reading and watching videos of the woman killed in Minneapolis yesterday, here are some thoughts:
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This iceman was hit by a different car previously.
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The woman was cosplaying resistance fighter, not really realizing how dangerous what she was doing actually was.
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It is unambiguous given the videos that she did try to hit the officer with her car, but just barely, and seems to have backed off immediately when her tires slipped on the ice.
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it seems reasonable to me that the iceman was looking for retribution for the previous car strike, and she gave it to him.
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Shooting her would have had no effect on his safety, even if she had gotten traction. They were at “point blank” range.
All in all I think everybody here is a victim of the current evil in our society. A woman in a gay relationship with a recently deceased husband, in a new city, is being fed a constant stream of propaganda. I can imagine the state of mind if this person, and it isn’t pleasant.
She decided to try and help, which is good, but was essentially a pawn, or unknowing martyr for political power struggles I doubt she understood. A comparison could be a child soldier/suicide bomber.
The iceman: I expect better than this. Unlike the woman, acting on pure propaganda fueled adrenaline, he is supposed to train for this. He also interacts with these people daily. He should be thinking rationally here, and the rational move is to just get out of the way, not walk in front of the car of a neurotic woman screaming at you. He is legally, technically in the clear, but this was immoral. Hes basically exploiting a series of laws and norms to allow him to “innocently” kill a woman as a form of retribution. This is akin in my mind to entrapment of some form. The iceman sets up a series of traps, and just waits for an untrained, trigger, fight or flight woman to fall into one of them. He shouldn’t be setting traps, he should by building golden off-ramps to de-escalate.
Unfortunately the same which gripped both the woman and the shooter is gripping everybody forming an opinion online around this. nyTimes put out am [absurd] “forensic analysis” and determined she was trying to escape, which will never be questioned by the blue tribe ever. We will forever live in the reality where an iceman killed a woman in cold blood on Jan 7th 2026 in Minneapolis.
I don’t think this will metastasize into Floyd 2.0, mostly because the woman was white, but also because of the weather. We’ll see how this weekend plays out though.
A final question: will the shooter be charged with a state crime in Minnesota and will he be able to avoid that charge? Could we run into a Chauvin type situation here?
Stellula
17d ago
Watch this video:
https://x.com/sarahiscensored/status/2009022817019572408
At the 0:06 mark, her wheels are pointed to the LEFT at the officer, and you see them spin out on the ice, because she hit the gas.
Just watch the video. It’s understandable to be mistaken with so much info flying around, but this fact is pretty cut and dry.
Stellula
17d ago
Police do not have a “duty to flee”.
Secondly: she turned the tires of her car TOWARDS the cop and if not for the ice that prevented her from getting traction, would have run right over him. He was actively being attacked. The analog here would be; she pointed a gun at him and pulled the trigger, but it jammed.
Stellula
17d ago
Minnesota doesn’t get to decide to take all of the benefits of membership in the United States and then just blatantly ignore our laws. They doubly don’t get to do that after facilitating the theft of billions of dollars in federal aid.
Stellula
17d ago
I disagree. Watch the wheels, which are spinning out on the ice. When she tires to accelerate, she’s pointed right at the cop.
Stellula
17d ago
Why are women doing this? Do they have some sense of invincibility?
It's that they don't understand how dangerous the game they're playing is. People see a lot of youtube videos and tik toks and stuff and they feel empowered to act out their revolutionary fantasies.
Stellula
17d ago
The sense that I get from Walz is that he's basically a patsy for powerful democrats. He should absolutely not be a national figure, and that type of attention can be intoxicating. A (potentially) dangerous mix.
I hope nobody is egging him on.
Stellula
17d ago
If you watch the slow motion videos of the vehicle, yeah she did try to run into them. She turned her wheels towards them, then started accelerating.
https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/2009022817019572408
She only turned after she hit the cop.
Stellula
17d ago
None of this matters. The legal justifications don't matter. People are not swayed by logic or law.
Stellula
17d ago
Don't forget about the Mark Kelly video from a few months ago reminding soldiers that they should think hard about what orders they follow because they need to personally decide if they're legal or not.
Stellula
17d ago
This puts a lot of new protesting innovations into question though.
Is the driver of a car justified in trying to run over a person standing in their way if they feel threatened?
“I’ll block you and if you drive into me I’ll retaliate violently and be justified” has been a leftist protest/escalation tactic since at least 2020, probably longer.
I think you're right about this. I'm trying to think of what 10 minutes of "play" with my kids would look like and I'm not sure. I don't think a 2-4 year old could hold 10 straight minutes of interest in a single game of play.
We'll play hide and seek a lot, but the kids version of this is having my wife and I "hide" in the exact same place over and over while they find us. It is really fun, and they laugh and laugh while we do it, but I don't think bouts of this last much longer than 10 minutes or so.
Reading to them takes longer than that for sure, but is that the same as playing? I think we just spend about 45 minutes reading all the kids favorite stories to them before bedtime.
I'll spend a lot of time with them "playing" outside, but that's usually just me supervising them while they play with each other, interspersed with a few minutes at a time where they show me something interesting or the climax of a pretend play that they're doing "Dad come and see our bunny house! [pile of sticks]" etc. Or if they "help" me cook dinner it's a few minutes of them watching me cook something before they get distracted and want to do something else.
Thinking about this some more and we do go on a lot of really long bike rides where it takes up most of the day, but thinking that through it's a lot of short stops at a lot of places. 10 minutes at coffee, 20 minutes at the park, 10 minutes at the grocery store, etc. etc.
I think this person is just way overanalyzing themselves.
Stellula
23d ago
Okay. It Vivek converts to Mennonism, stops using the internet, moves to a farm, and gets rid of his car, I think people would take the conversion seriously.
Stellula
24d ago
Evangelicals are hated by elites, and they generally hate elites in return.
This is just demonstrably not true. How many members of the current President's cabinet are evangelicals? One of the primary debates happening around our politics right now is funding for Israel, which is something almost entirely pushed by evangelical protestants.
I think that there tend to me bore Catholic intellectuals (like members of the Supreme Court); I think that's where the cleave happens.
Stellula
24d ago
Not many! How many at your local parish are reading those? How many even follow the Church's teaching on contraception or abortion?
A lot. These people are Doctors of the Church. Protestants have this idea of "sola scriptura", or that the only thing that matters is The Bible, but Catholics just...don't. We treat our religion as a legitimate academic and philosophical pursuit, and so stuff like that is a frequent point of reference. If you want more contemporaries to listen to: listen to any of the Bishop Robert Barron interviews and see how long he can go without referencing things like this.
Not just inherently, definitionally violent. Every single thing the police do is something being done against the will of the person it is being done to.
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