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Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for. There was a conflict of interest after all!

Those IRC logs don't really exonerate Gamergaters, though. The people there are openly talking about sharing Quinn's nudes. I thought these were supposed to be the non-harassers? Gjoni himself condemns it, but the rest of the server seems fine with it. Sharing her nudes is clearly harassment, and if they're doing this, how do we know they aren't engaging in all the other forms of harassment she received?

And another question, if you don't mind: what is the timeline on the Grayson/Quinn conflict of interest? Did people first believe she traded sex for positive coverage, and only when this turned out to be false did they find out about their prior (non-sexual) relationship, by going through their Twitters? When did each of these events occur?

Also, do you know how Sarkeesian and Wu got involved? Wikipedia places them right next to Quinn as victims of Gamergate, but as far as I can tell, there were no allegations of unethical behaviour on their part. According to Wikipedia, Wu was targeted "as retaliation for mocking Gamergate", while Sarkeesian was targeted because people didn't like Tropes vs. Women in Video Games. Would proponents of Gamergate consider these harassment campaigns unrelated to Gamergate?

Edit: I'm going through the /r/kotakuinaction stuff, it might have the answers to my questions, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

I'm not sure if this is going to get any eyeballs here, but I don't think a short post asking a question is appropriate for the CW thread.

Is there an overview of Gamergate anywhere, from the pro-Gamergate side? The anti-Gamergate view is readily available on Wikipedia. (I hope I'm using pro- and anti- right.)

In particular:

  • What concerns were there about "ethics in gaming journalism"?
  • What is the response to "Grayson never actually reviewed any of Quinn's games, and his only Kotaku article mentioning them was published before their relationship began"?
  • Was the claim of a conflict of interest really based on a typo in "The Zoe Post"? What is the response to this revelation?
  • How did Sarkeesian and Wu get involved? What is their relation to "ethics in gaming journalism"?
  • Was there really pre-existing seething from gamers about Depression Quest that motivated Gamergate? What was that about?
  • What is the response to the harassment Quinn, Sarkeesian and Wu received?