The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
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The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Child support payments are part of modernity, not social conservatism. Anyway, if people are discussing them they are discussing obligations owed to (in practice) women; the usual complaint here seems to be the obligation is one sided. (Which it is; the child support payments are owed even if the money is not used for the child or if visitation and/or joint custody rights are denied)
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
A cabinet secretary does in fact speak for the administration within their area of responsibility. They do not speak for the "woke right" (which itself is just a snarl term). That's like saying something Eric Adams says should be attributed to the progressive left (or to the Democratic Socialists of America, for a concrete group).
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Imagine trying to convince my 1800s great great grandmother that my great grandmother, who just kicked her from the inside, was not a baby.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
2d ago
I think it's pretty easy to figure your way out of a right-wing false-flag attempt aimed to implicate antifa or the left generally: Two trans people included. This wouldn't rule out third-party shit-stirring (Chinese or Russian?) false flags, but I think your reasoning does this. Also just using AR-15s isn't really enough to implicate the right except in the minds of the New York Times.
There's one false flag that I think you haven't ruled out, though, and that's the possibility that this was yet another FBI sting gone wrong. The FBI would have recruited Song under false pretenses, provided him with the guns and some plans, and planned to arrest the bunch at some point, but the group jumped the gun and actually did it. That's probably not what happened here, but it does fit their M.O.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
4d ago
America you will note, managed to not have the union destroyed
It was destroyed, and then put back together by force, going from the original voluntary union to a nation of victors and vanquished. And the mainstream complaint nowadays is the vanquished weren't treated harshly enough, so therefore we should treat their descendants (literal, political, philosophical, or imagined) even worse.
not have a full scale race war
That would not have turned out like Haiti, when whites were willing to take their own side.
You quoted Jefferson. Jefferson also feared "Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites" and "ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinctions which nature has made ; and many other circumstances"
He was mostly wrong on the first. It turns out those deep-rooted prejudices of whites could be mostly (if bloodily) extirpated. But dead right on the second. And that may well be sufficient for the consequences he feared: "will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race" I expect not on the extermination part. But the resentments of blacks alone, along with the sympathy for those resentments among one party of whites, will keep those convulsions going indefinitely.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
6d ago
RTTL’s logo looks like a swastika
Not really, no. It has some right angles is all.
I expect now that they've been made, the Arkansas government will crush them one way or another.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
I'm OK with "racialist right" or the euphemistic "dissident right", but "woke right" is just a snarl, an attempt to force an equivalence with the woke left. Further, these people mostly aren't the MAGA right, and the Trump Administration cannot be said to speak for them.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
What is your excuse for why China is able to do it while having a one standard deviation higher median IQ over America?
They likely don't; all those rural laborers don't show up in the IQ stats because they don't take the tests.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
But they definitely indicate a person who is bad news.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
4d ago
This story made the NYC radio news. One of the examples they have was grok responding to a post calling the girls killed in the Texas floods "Future Fascists of America" with (from memory) "Hitler would know how to handle this sort of anti-white racism". No recognition at all that the original post might have been bad.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3d ago
It does irk me that famines in Ireland, British India, Africa, ancient regime France, ancient China, Tsarist Russia and the United States
Outside of the Civil War and its immediate aftermath, there has never been a famine in the United States. No, not even the Dust Bowl.
Irish and British Indian famines often ARE blamed on mass murder.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
4d ago
Well that's the question isn't it?
It's been answered. After the race riots of the '60 and early '70s, we had the racial detente of the 70s and 80s, but then things got worse; we had the Rodney King Riots and a generation later the more-widespread Floyd riots.
Timescales for nations are measured in centuries.
Not really, no. Nations rise and fall within that time. For all the US gets shit for "200 years is a long time", such staid European nations as Germany and Italy are only a century and a half old, and aren't even really continuous through that time.
And she had lived through Jim Crow in the South before migrating North and believed a white doctor had tried to kill one of her children in the womb.
And her granddaughter's (or great-granddaughters) peers not only believe that, they have scientific studies PROVING that white physicians are killing black babies.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
6d ago
People would rather spend time attending a safety seminar or working than reduce their lifespan and spend an equal amount of time being dead
I'll trade safety seminars 1:1 for shortened lifespan any day of the week.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
A strawberry picker that's slow, isn't actually available and apparently works only on hydroponic berries? I think Juan Enrique still has his job. Maybe another 5-10 years it'll make a dent, assuming the product isn't entirely fake.
Tomatoes are indeed largely automatically harvested. The catch is... well, do you think a tomato you buy in the grocery store could stand up to what that robot is doing? Nope... those are tomatoes for processing, not for eating fresh.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Japan imports a massive amount of food. This would be pretty dumb for the US to do, considering the massive amount of farmland we have.
(I believe the US is a net food importer by dollars, but not by calories)
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
If Trump announced some kind of amnesty for farm workers, that would be MAGA.
No, in fact, MAGA got upset when it seemed he might and Trump backed off. Also note that MAGA was COVID-vaccine-skeptical and Trump was the opposite. That MAGA won't immediately dump Trump if he deviates from what they want doesn't mean MAGA is what Trump says it is.
But the "dissident right" just isn't MAGA in the first place.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
15hr ago
Most spies don't "need" to be "turned" against their country; they just need to be found.
This is only two sorts, and there are conventionally four. Those who do it for the money, those who do it for the ideology, those who are coerced into it, and those who do it for ego. You can find those who do it for ideology or ego; those who do it for money or (especially) because they are coerced have to be made.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
21hr ago
I might not want to hang out with a Yakuza but I respect their commitment to their lifestyle more than I do 'oh I've got Milhouse smoking weed'
This is pretty much "I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos." Their "lifestyle" is organized crime, up to and including murder.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
21hr ago
The cases that actually do still arise from legal drugs are "addict (i.e. end-user) runs out of money and becomes a career criminal to get his fix" and "stimulant-induced mania/psychosis". These are cases which are unambiguously "this is not due to prohibition; this is just due to drugs being available at all".
Both of these are made worse by prohibition -- the former by making the drugs more expensive, the latter because prohibition results in badly controlled doses leading to faster escalation towards mania-inducing doses.
There's also "drug user loses interest in anything but drugs, becomes criminal/welfare case" which I associate with pot. It's somewhat confounded by the fact that a lot of the people who ended up there would have been losers anyway, but I suspect that's not the only effect.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
21hr ago
The real reason is that blaming the Jews is always popular, but Mossad in this case makes it easy by being an intelligence agency with plausible motive, means, opportunity, and most of all enough competence that it wouldn't leak.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Illegals and ex-cons. Apparently current-cons too; some meatpackers employ people on work programs from prisons, which is as close to slavery as you can get legally.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
So they claim. But the king is unlikely to be willing to trade places with the peasant, so it seems this is an uneven bargain.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
I don’t think farming is grunt work
It is, whether you think so or not, which is why historically when people got the chance they fled the farms for horrible factory jobs.
I don't see any reason it would be "innoble" or "beneath human dignity", but it's backbreaking.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Not only would Liz Cheney not agree, Elon Musk wouldn't either, so I don't believe this.
Eh, I see this discussion a lot. One common line is that what other people (specifically, men, specifically, husbands) owed them -- mostly financial support and physical protection -- is something that they can now either provide for themselves or will be provided by the state, so they no longer need to offer anything.
But in general social conservatism is hierarchical, not reciprocal. Duties are owed to those higher up; parents, church, community. Even those things owed to another person of similar rank or lower down are not owed to them per se, but owed to them because it is ones duty to society to provide it. This is one of the reasons social conservatism is so stifling, especially to the young (who are low in the hierarchy).
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