The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
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The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
3hr ago
According to the original post, making $100,000 in 1959 would be the equivalent of making $800,000/year today, which probably does not mean you have full time domestic servants, today. I think you probably could have had them in 1959 with that sort of salary, though taxes were pretty bad then so it would depend on how effectively the rich person could shelter his income.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
7hr ago
Or it might not.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
9hr ago
· Edited 8hr ago
This is part of the problem. The tech bros are the founders, but the people losing their jobs are regular techies, and are tarred with the same brush.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
9hr ago
Ending up like Google is not exactly the worst fate in the world, especially if you're a current Jane Street employee. Google is a money-printing machine, after all. Google is definitely a dinosaur, but they're a tough top-of-the-food chain dinosaur, which is a fine place to be until the asteroid hits (and no place is good then!)
Of course, unlike Google, Jane Street can't really remain itself if it goes public.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
No, it's not O(log(N)) overhead. It's at least O(N) overhead. O(log(N)) is the depth of the hierarchy, but the entire thing is O(N). That is, the number of people doing the coordination tasks is a linear function of those doing the work.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
I think you also see changes in how quality is perceived: it's easy enough to put printed posters on your walls and sit in injection-molded chairs, but many (probably not all) who possess that sort of slop, to use a term coined by AI skeptics, will wish they had hand-crafted wood chairs and original paintings.
In fact they seem to prefer the posters. Nobody's willing to pay for original art, even when they can afford it.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
At $100,000 a year in 1959, one could hire either a personal assistant to go to the restaurant and pick up the food for you, or a cook to make the stuff.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
Trump's been saying some variant of this for a while now. I think it's mostly just blather, because he hasn't moved to prosecute anyone covered by autopen pardons. Most executive orders are cancellable by the executive anyway; while IIRC there have been a few cases where courts have found one administration (Trump's) can't cancel a previous administration's orders, I expect any such cases still in question to be overturned. What can't be overturned are pardons and signatures on legislation, and as far as I know Trump has made no attempt to bypass any particular one of those, though he's claimed on social media that they are invalid.
As for what he's saying, it's certainly true that if Biden didn't give the order, an autopen signature is invalid. It's a forgery. And no, having Biden stating they were done on his order now doesn't cure the issue; he would have had to have said so during his term.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
21hr ago
Even on the Motte, where a lot of folks are in theory very big on masculinity, I've never seen a single person mention any physical project in the Tinker Tuesday thread, or anywhere else on the site, for that matter.
I fly model helicopters. Like real helicopters, they require more time spent repairing than flying. And it's a ridiculously male hobby. I also do my own bicycle maintenance and general fixing of stuff (e.g. I restrung my blinds and fixed my humidifier recently), though that's instrumental rather than for its own sake.
There's no real shortage of hunters, at least once you get out of New Jersey (Pennsylvania: America Starts Here).
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
21hr ago
Yeah, the people potentially losing their jobs due to AI aren't as sympathetic as that bunch.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Serving others is no longer considered an acceptable use of humans. Further, the humans most likely to be laid off by AI are not well-suited for it. During the dot-com bust there were plenty of software engineers waiting tables in Silicon Valley, and it wasn't pretty.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
You're right that lying flat is the correct tactic, but it's not bargaining, it's just coping; no change for the better is possible. The rules and procedures are not going to be repealed -- parents will not accept any case of child molestation that could have been stopped by a rule or procedure they have experience with or can think of. And such rules and procedures will tend to select for the wrong people even from a "Scouting virtues" point of view. After all, what is the point of being honorable if you are assumed to be dishonorable until proven otherwise.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Get fingerprinted at the police station? Maybe, but not VOLUNTARILY.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Then "society" has made its choice. You can make people jump through flaming hoops to be considered moral enough to associate with children (Padme: Other than your own, right? Anakin: ... Padme: Other than your own, right?), or you can have an ample supply of volunteers. You can have neither but you can't have both, and counterarguments involving the word "should" (as in men "should" be willing to go through these simple and vital procedures) are not really arguments but just social pressure to avoid this point being made.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
AI taking over some human work doesn't make it practical for all humans to work less. It makes it so some humans are useless, while the others need to do as much work (or even more!) as they ever did.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
And I think someone elsewhere mentioned the child abuse stuff. Anyone who attempts to step up is going to be told "Well, you'll need to take this online course about child abuse, then you'll need to get fingerprinted at the police station, and sign this form to allow a criminal background check." At which point said redneck is going to say "You want me to WHAT now?"
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
It's unfair because you're only including civilian deaths.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Anyone who stepped up to offer those things would get nothing but criticism for only being willing to volunteer for the fun things but not the hard things.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Diogenes laughs in Ancient Greek.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
The mainstream does not teach rebellion; it teaches conformism (as always) with some of the outward trappings of rebellion. It's what it is teaching conformism TO that no longer fits Scouting.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Compare the Cybertruck bombing, which was similar in involving a US Special Forces soldier who served overseas who drove a long distance to launch a nutty but (in that case explicitly) politically motivated protest attack, involved a white guy so nobody said "THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE EVERY SPECIAL FORCES VETERAN."
The idea that veterans are dangerous has been around for a very long time. Here's a 2012 article decrying it, and it's obviously much older than that; First Blood is based on the idea. And in fact the idea of some sort of plot by a group of veterans was involved in the cybertruck bombing WAS investigated.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
· Edited 1d ago
One problem with traditional scouting is it emphasizes conformity with society and obedience to authority. But traditional scout activities today are forbidden or fenced around with so many rules and regulations to be essentially so. So an organization doing them today would have to be transgressive, and that's exactly the opposite of Scouting.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
I think Guess 5 is actually a subset of Guess 1. I'd be surprised if an Afghan were a full-on anti-Trump #resistance supporter, but stranger things have happened. And I don't know any other reason a Muslim in general or an Afghan specifically would attack National Guard members, but add in a little crazy and who knows? Whatever the reason, I'd bet on Guess 1.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Don't put words in my mouth, buddy. I'm not part of some sort of anti-man conspiracy; my position is that basically no one (including myself) should have the epistemic confidence to have a position.
If you insist on using your own state of mind as if it were evidence, prepare to have the contents of your mind interrogated.
As for the position that no one should have epistemic confidence to have a position, if that were to be universally adopted it would mean either throwing up ones hands or trying things at random. But in practice, that position is only deployed against certain positions -- usually but not always positions that imply a change should be made -- and so it is not the neutral agosticism it would appear.
It's simply inaccurate.
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