The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
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The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2hr ago
The world where ICE is completely professional and competent would have near identical protests and complaints to what we're seeing now, although probably with fewer deaths.
Perhaps one fewer death. The "ICE is untrained and incompetent" claim is just a backstop to the "ICE is an invading army" claim. I have watched all sorts of videos showing arrests which were claimed to be some sort of horrible, and in nearly every one, it shows an arrest more professional and with less drama than I'd expect from one on the news with local cops. To have Ross not shoot Good wouldn't be a matter of Ross being more competent and professional, it'd be a matter of Ross being omniscient.
I don't even thing protesting "enforcing lawful immigration policy" is the center of the onion here; it's "resistance to Trump". If someone with a (D) after their name wanted to enforce lawful immigration policy, we wouldn't see anything like this.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
6hr ago
Fahrenheit wrote about ammonium chloride (sal ammoniac) brine and salt brine, but those two have different freezing points, both lower than 0F (-13F for ammonium chloride). It's likely he used neither, and the real fixed points were temperature of an ice-water mixture (32) and body temperature (96).
The division of the scale depends on three fixed points, which can be determined in the following manner. The first is found in the uncalibrated part or the beginning of the scale, and is determined by a mixture of ice, water and ammonium chloride or even sea salt. If the thermometer is placed in this mixture, its liquid descends as far as the degree that is marked with a zero. This experiment succeeds better in winter than in summer. The second point is obtained if water and ice are mixed without the aforementioned salts. When the thermometer is placed in this mixture, its liquid reaches the 32nd degree.
Clearly Fahrenheit knew that his 0 wasn't really fixed.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
7hr ago
What this confrontation is demonstrating is that only the left has the legitimacy to rule in the United States; elections don't decide that.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
18hr ago
Fahrenheit has nothing to do with dial thermometers; it was originally set with mercury and alcohol liquid thermometers.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
21hr ago
On a practical level, I want these people to understand that they aren't fully lost. They can come home if they want to and the world still loves them.
LOL. The world is at best indifferent.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
21hr ago
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
21hr ago
Getting the bum out of your park means that the bum will move to someone else's park.
And then they can kick him out. And if this keeps happening eventually he'll move someplace which isn't a park.
Oh - and in harsh conditions when someone is in what in my country is known as helpless condition - you go and check on them. Because next time it may be you, and you probably wouldn't want your life to depend on whether the single person passing by you can do the heuristic that you are not a bum, but upstanding citizen right while in severe snowstorm.
If it were me, conditions would be such that no one would check. "There for but the grace of God goes I" is usually false. And the prevalence of the false ones probably makes it less likely the real ones get helped.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
It’s especially galling to see conservatives, who under normal circumstances are all about the Second Amendment, suddenly do an about face when someone they don’t like has a gun.
HereAndGone2 isn't American and definitely isn't one of the Second Amendment people. The Second Amendment conservatives are pretty consistent about not getting into it with the cops when you're carrying, and if you do, letting them know, calmly, that you have a gun and allowing them to disarm you.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
There may be a causal relationship between your second paragraph and your first.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Renee Good and the other people at the sharp end are patsies. The people doing the organizing want them to be harmed and/or killed by ICE in order to shock the conscience of those who would otherwise support the ICE side in this. And I expect it to work.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
The finger end was recovered, that was in the pics. I don't know they attempted re-attachement.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
It’s not a game, it’s the government storming your city and demanding to see everyone’s papers and perhaps snatching up your friends, terrorizing people to be afraid to go out of their houses.
All those people running around blowing whistles and yelling, they're absolutely terrorized and subject to constant papers checks?
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Business owners fill out a lot of paperwork. You know what e-verify tells an employer if the employee gives the employer a legitimate name and social security number that doesn't belong to them? It tells the employer they're OK to work.
The whole "punish employers" thing is just a tactic akin to concern trolling; people who don't want immigration laws enforced at all are saying "No, leave sanctuary cities full of your political opponents alone, instead prosecute employers who may be your political allies, otherwise you're a stinky hypocrite." It doesn't really deserve more than an eyeroll and the administration isn't even giving it that.
The point that such indirect enforcement requires a much greater impingement on liberty than going after the people who are actually here illegally in the first place is true, but it isn't the reason it's not being done.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
If all Trump wanted to do was enforce immigration nationwide, having hundreds of small operations in the interior that were not announced ahead of time would be a better way to do it.
And how, exactly, do small operations "in the interior" do anything about illegal aliens in sanctuary cities? Again, your suggestion still boils down to enforcing the law only on Red Tribe.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
If it was a SIG P320 AD (and I don't think it was, based on the reaction of the agent holding the gun), then maybe we'll get a rare moment of detente while a few SIG execs are crucified. Probably not literally. Probably.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
I'm sure when Snopes gets to this claim they'll say "PANTS ON FIRE" because it was only the distal phalanx (there's pics, and they're disgusting) and not the whole finger.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
These are organized protests. It is possible, even likely, that the protestors on the ground are not trying to get themselves injured or killed to make ICE look bad, while the overall strategy developed by others who are safely ensconced in their ivory towers somewhere, and used to instruct the protestors on the ground, does have that as an intentional part.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Doesn't look like murder to me -- that is, I don't think they intentionally killed a guy they didn't think was a threat. Some lesser form of homicide, more likely. Possibly the black hat agent had a negligent discharge and then the rest panicked, but I think more likely they wrongly perceived a threat.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Like Capital_Room said, we're already there.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
The right isn't really the small government side; that would be libertarians, and they're never in power.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
We could create this whole totalitarian bureaucratic paperwork nightmare with significant vicarious liability if anyone employed directly or indirectly by you turns out to not have authorization to work. Or we could just go after the people who are primarily responsible in the first place. The latter is better; there's a cost to all that Orwellian shit.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
It's a just bit hard for me to get outraged at the "point deer make horse"-ness of this latest situation, when te Blues get to do it essentially unlimited amount of times, and no one cares.
Indeed. There's tons of videos with commentary declaring ICE is doing something outrageous, and if you look at the video it's a perfectly professional arrest. I've seen at least two where ICE was accused of brutality and the video does indeed appear to show brutality... but it wasn't ICE. Just this morning I saw a video showing an ICE agent falling on ice and a flash going off with the caption that ICE had a negligent discharge because they didn't have the safety on. This is obvious bullshit because neither the ICEs previous duty weapon (the SIG P320) nor their current one (Glock 19) has a manual safety. Some people claimed it was the weapon's light turning on, others claimed the flash was simply added to the video, but either way it was a lie.
But it's much like the old IRA thing -- they only have to be right (by accident) once, and the government has to be right every time. Because they own the press.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Like, I saw the videos and maybe he was technically resisting arrest
He was more than "technically" resisting arrest, but if he'd wanted to massacre law enforcement he'd have come in shooting.
And I suppose it is possible 200 rioters arrived after the videos we have, but it doesn't really look like 200 people are even in the vicinity in the shots we have.
The shots we have are fairly narrow and in a short time frame; I could believe there were 200 people around that were part of the groups blowing whistles and yelling and such, though unlikely that 200 were actually rioting.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1d ago
Also, from a realpolitik perspective, you can't easily enforce a law the people (or some concentrated geographic subset of people) legitimately won't tolerate.
Tell it to George Wallace. With modern state capacity you can enforce anything, if you have the will. For whatever reason only the left has the will.
I'm fine with sending in a bunch of men to remove the cats and kittens. Especially since the people now claiming "Oh, go after the cans of tuna" favor providing free tuna by the palletload.
This sudden received indisputable wisdom that going after the employers is the best and only reasonable way to do anything about illegal immigration and, as a result, going directly after illegal immmigrants is cruel and should be verboten is not credible.
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